Hezbollah, FPM Three Years on...

[julesvernes99]

Originally Posted by jalbout

it's very clear that Hezbollah will never give their weapons to the army, the day GMA realized that he made the deal and said to everyone don't worry i will make the christian accept that fact like i made them accept michel murr.
GMA has the power to move the minds of his followers the way he wants . the day he wll tell them that Hezbollah should not have arms they will all agree but now he needs them so every FPMers will defend the arms.

you must know that every single FPMers was against HA before the alliance they even hated them more than they hate FM if saad hariri had accepted FPM's alliance you would be hearing another story about FM and everyone here would have been bashing HA and saying how great Rafik Hariri was.

it is just simple brainwashing...

The only sentence that made any sense in your post is the last one, you are simply brainwashed.

First, FPM did not ASK for alliance with Hariri, it was more like S3adoun saying to FPM , here's couple of MP's, take it or leave it...and we all know the rest of that story and how well it ended for FM.

Second, nobody here hated Hizballah, but major disagreements existed but FM and 14 shbat were sleeping with Hizb. and their weapons to get their votes, and you believed them but once they turned against Hizb. you still believed them...talk about brainwashing...pffffffffffffffff....

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by jalbout

it's very clear that Hezbollah will never give their weapons to the army, the day GMA realized that he made the deal and said to everyone don't worry i will make the christian accept that fact like i made them accept michel murr.
GMA has the power to move the minds of his followers the way he wants . the day he wll tell them that Hezbollah should not have arms they will all agree but now he needs them so every FPMers will defend the arms being.

you must know that every single FPMers was against HA before the alliance they even hated them more than they hate FM if saad hariri had accepted FPM's alliance you would be hearing another story about FM and everyone here would have been bashing HA and saying how great Rafik Hariri was.

it is just simple brainwashing...

Is Jalbout by any chance adopted from the Jalbout himself? Or is it just a coincidence?

HA should have arms. It has nothing to do with FPM or anyone else. With or without the MoU, HA will be armed. What the MoU changed is the level or understanding between the Lebanese whereby fears and worries have been cast aside and the focus is on the real potential danger and wicked plots.

Some FPMers hated HA true, but some HAs hated them even more. Now nobody hates anybody, which is a great achievement. Is hating your fellow Lebanese better than liking them? I can see that you're calling for the need to hate each other. How wise of you, you sure know how to build a nation.

It's lame bringing up the topic of HA's weapons every now and then and using it as an excuse to bash FPMers and the agreement between Aoun and Nasrallah when the only person who's working on a reasonable strategy to ensure that those weapons remain within the interest and benefit of the nation is Aoun. Do you have any better plan? If so, at7efna. Unless you see a 3antar in yourself that you want to use force against the fierce that is. It's also weird how you come and talk about weapons after all the things that everyone has witnessed (Gaza attacks most recently) and the potential danger lurking on our borders. Wake up from your slumber honey, weakness is not on our agenda. Zionism won't see our white flags ever.

[jalbout]

Originally Posted by julesvernes99

The only sentence that made any sense in your post is the last one, you are simply brainwashed.

First, FPM did not ASK for alliance with Hariri, it was more like S3adoun saying to FPM , here's couple of MP's, take it or leave it...and we all know the rest of that story and how well it ended for FM.

Second, nobody here hated Hizballah, but major disagreements existed but FM and 14 shbat were sleeping with Hizb. and their weapons to get their votes, and you believed them but once they turned against Hizb. you still believed them...talk about brainwashing...pffffffffffffffff....

first,i agree sa3doun told fpm here's a coupe of MPs ( i remember that day GMA saying we agree on 90% of our politics) let's say sa3doun and GMA agreed that day . i can assure you that you would be saying that FM is the greatest party and rafik hariri is a great hero.

second, nobody here hates hezbollah? i was there on 14 of march 2005 when all of you were there. YOU WERE ALL THERE because of the HATRED you had for HASSAN NASRALLAH the day he thanked syria on the 8 of march.

WE all went down on this day BECAUSE of the speech of hassan nasrallah.

do you even remember that day or the brainwashing removed it from your mind?

i am against the hatred of ANY party including HA but also FM. i am saying that if you allied with HA that doesn't mean he's clean because if you had allied that day with FM (the day michel aoun said that i agree with saad on 90% of the things) you wouldn't be bashing FM and gloryfying HA

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by jalbout

first,i agree sa3doun told fpm here's a coupe of MPs ( i remember that day GMA saying we agree on 90% of our politics) let's say sa3doun and GMA agreed that day . i can assure you that you would be saying that FM is the greatest party and rafik hariri is a great hero.

second, nobody here hates hezbollah? i was there on 14 of march 2005 when all of you were there. YOU WERE ALL THERE because of the HATRED you had for HASSAN NASRALLAH the day he thanked syria on the 8 of march.

WE all went down on this day BECAUSE of the speech of hassan nasrallah.

do you even remember that day or the brainwashing removed it from your mind?

i am against the hatred of ANY party including HA but also FM. i am saying that if you allied with HA that doesn't mean he's clean because if you had allied that day with FM (the day michel aoun said that i agree with saad on 90% of the things) you wouldn't be bashing FM and gloryfying HA

1-Hating a speech or hating a move,is different than hating the person or what that person stands for.

2-It's obvious by now that while many groups gathered in March 14,yet each had its own agenda.

3-March 14 was neither a demo against the resistance,nor was the resistance even hinted at,on that day.And if you show me one slogan and one sign proving the opposite,i would be grateful to you.

4-The only thing that united people (not the Parties) in March 14,was not even Hariri's death,but the fact that they wanted to make sure to voice loudly that they wanted Syria out,and a new page for that country,where occupation,lack of sovereignty,lack of independence and corruption would have no more place.

Notice that despite thanking Syria,those aspirations were also the aspirations of the people who went on the March 8 demo.

Notice also,that the only thing that was realized, is that Syria got out.Not because of the March 14 demo,but because this was independent of the reach or the will of all those who ruled the country after that.

If it was left to F14ers to decide,they would have made a new deal with Syria.

Wherever things were left for them to decide and run,they just fu@ked them up.

The list of their crimes during those 4 years is too long for me to enumerate.But here is what i suggest for you to do:

Give me 1 positive thing those 14 criminals did to that country during those 4 years in power.

Only 1.Is that too much to ask?

If you can't find one,then i advise you to keep a low profile next time that you want to talk about brainwash.

[julesvernes99]

Originally Posted by jalbout

first,i agree sa3doun tod fpm here's a coupe of MPs ( i remember that day GMA saying we agree on 90% of our politics) let's say sa3doun and GMA agreed that day . i can assure you that you would be saying that FM is the greatest party and rafik hariri is a great hero.

Stop "assuring things", you still don't get what FPM stands for.

Originally Posted by jalbout

second, nobody here hates hezbollah? i was there on 14 of march 2005 when all of you were there. YOU WERE ALL THERE because of the HATRED you had for HASSAN NASRALLAH the day he thanked syria on the 8 of march.
WE all went down on this day BECAUSE of the speech of hassan nasrallah.
do you even remember that day or the brainwashing removed it from your mind?

Again, 8 March was one of those major disagreements I mentioned but NO hate...BIG difference. I was there because I wanted to LIBERATE my land form the occupier, and even then you still wanted them to just pull back to the Beqaa, so it seems that you were there because of your hate to Hizb, contrary to what you claim.

Originally Posted by jalbout

i am against the hatred of ANY party including HA but also FM. i am saying that if you allied with HA that doesn't mean he's clean because if you had allied that day with FM (the day michel aoun said that i agree with saad on 90% of the things) you wouldn't be bashing FM and gloryfying HA

FPM did NOT ally with Hizb. in the elections YOU did.
Even if GMA said that he and saad agree on 90% of things during that meeting, it does not mean that they would not have clashed shortly after because Hariri's LEVEL of corruption. Look habibi, even last Monday GMA proposed "tedqiq maleh" for the entire era where we got most of our national debt and whomever made wrongs should pay, including any current or potential ally.

kel brainwashing kel....go look in the mirror...

[zodiac]

أعرب وزير الاتصالات جبران باسيل باسيل عن قناعته بالتفاهم الذي يربط التيار الوطني الحر بحزب الله. وقال: "لا أرى أن التحالف مع حزب الله يلغي إمكانية تحالفنا مع الجهات اللبنانية الأخرى"، مشيراً إلى أن "الخطوبة التي تجمعنا ليست مطلقة ولا أبدية بالضرورة".
ولم يوافق باسيل على القول إن فوزاً ساحقاً لـ"حزب الله" في الانتخابات النيابية المقبلة، من شأنه إحداث خلل في التركيبة
السياسية القائمة، معتبراً أن الحجم السياسي للحزب لن يتجاوز ما تتيحه له الأعراف والقوانين المنصوص عليها في الدستور.

Source: Elnashra

What do u think about this statement.. what does it means??
Enno, i dont want to make a big fuss out of this.. lets just wait what could happens next!

[lebanese1]

It is a normal and logical statement that we have been repeating since 2006 and that the loyalists keep ignoring and try to portray that FPM lost its identity and that HA will eat the country etc.

[zodiac]

A piece of advice to all FPMers: 7fazo khatt el raj3a! do not dilute yourselves in HA!
لا تكونوا ملكيين اكثر من الملك

[fidelio]

Originally Posted by zodiac

A piece of advice to all FPMers: 7fazo khatt el raj3a! do not dilute yourselves in HA!
لا تكونوا ملكيين اكثر من الملك

"dilute" is a misleading word zodiac. Besides, aren't you yourself being more royalist than than the monarch?

[elador]

Originally Posted by zodiac

أعرب وزير الاتصالات جبران باسيل باسيل عن قناعته بالتفاهم الذي يربط التيار الوطني الحر بحزب الله. وقال: "لا أرى أن التحالف مع حزب الله يلغي إمكانية تحالفنا مع الجهات اللبنانية الأخرى"، مشيراً إلى أن "الخطوبة التي تجمعنا ليست مطلقة ولا أبدية بالضرورة".
ولم يوافق باسيل على القول إن فوزاً ساحقاً لـ"حزب الله" في الانتخابات النيابية المقبلة، من شأنه إحداث خلل في التركيبة
السياسية القائمة، معتبراً أن الحجم السياسي للحزب لن يتجاوز ما تتيحه له الأعراف والقوانين المنصوص عليها في الدستور.

Source: Elnashra

What do u think about this statement.. what does it means??
Enno, i dont want to make a big fuss out of this.. lets just wait what could happens next!

which part of the statement exactly you want to discuss??