Hezbollah, FPM Three Years on...

[BEAST]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

That seems so long ago...

I remember back then FPMers would say: "Its not an alliance with HA, it is only an understanding, and limited to what is in the MOU at that... Do we have to keep repeating that!"

I remember back then FPMers would say: "We never changed our position, we want disarmament today but HA refuses. We cant fight them so we have to figure out how to understand their fears so they will disarm, and therefore the MOU... If you disagree go force them to disarm unconditionally if you can and we would be happy..."

I remember back then FPMers would say: "The MOU is only a first step, just wait and see how this will evolve... Yes it is somewhat vague, but its only the first step, just wait and see what comes next..."

I remember back then FPMers would say: "This has nothing to do with an electoral alliance... How dare you accuse us?"

Do any of you remember? If you do feel free to add your favorite statement to this list...

ok dude u really seem to be getting a kick out of turning every single thread into a pissing contest! what's with you man? seriously? enno hek manno 3ajbak chi? b7essak 3ayech ghasben 3annak cuz u must be against the whole "breathing" concept for instance...

[george_z_1]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_LF

A very sad occasion for the true FPM. Feb.6 is the shameful day when FPM turned from being a defender of a strong Lebansese state to a defender of a militia. On Feb 6 the first nail in FPM's coffin was hammered in...

I'm not gonna bother dwelling with you on the cost/benefit/added value of the MOU.

I'll be content for now by answering you via a question;
Have you pondered on the consequences of any other alternatives?!
You name any of them.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by BEAST

ok dude u really seem to be getting a kick out of turning every single thread into a pissing contest! what's with you man? seriously? enno hek manno 3ajbak chi? b7essak 3ayech ghasben 3annak cuz u must be against the whole "breathing" concept for instance...

Thats witty, I like the sense of humour :)

but I have a quick and practical question for you: How and why does that post you quoted turn the thread into a pissing contest?

[BEAST]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Thats witty, I like the sense of humour :)

but I have a quick and practical question for you: How and why does that post you quoted turn the thread into a pissing contest?

didn't mean to be funny, i was dead serious.

as for ur question, i mean dude, do i really have to proceed to a thorough analysis of ur previous post where i prove that each and every idea you mentioned is wrong? i mean im getting tired of it! it feels like ur just here to criticize ppl...not that you don't have the right to, but sometimes, some things, just turn into dumb things :)

however, just to give u a whiff of what an actual response would sound like, ill give u this.
u said in ur post that when the MOU was signed, FPMers said: we are still with the disarmament, but HA won't give up their arms until kingdom come. i mean r u serious? do i really have to quote all the statements by HA OFFICIALS stressing that they do not intend to keep their weapons eternally?
oh and by the way, how many FPMers on the forum have stopped being with the disarmament? :)

[joseph_lubnan]

Question:

Is it time now for the FPM and the IRIL (Islamic Resistance In Lebanon) to create the second version of the MOU that updates and gives a face lift and clarifies, and ads specifics and dates to the first one?

[hiptanaka]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Question:

Is it time now for the FPM and the IRIL (Islamic Resistance In Lebanon) to create the second version of the MOU that updates and gives a face lift and clarifies, and ads specifics and dates to the first one?

i agree wholeheartedly. this time, you should come up with the ideas.

[Makiabel]

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[LEBANESE FRONT 75]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

Sorry to disappoint you,but what you're only proving is that you're bitter because the MOU succeeded.

A memorandum of understanding that grows up to become an alliance...This is called success.



I remember back then when the F14 were promising to provide the Army the means to protect Lebanon.

I remember back then when the F14 were promising to free the country from international tutelage,and not to serve it on a silver platter to the US-KSA-Israeli front.

I remember back then when the F14 were promising to disarm Palestinian faction outside and inside the camps.

I remember back then when the F14 were promising to work hard against the naturalization of Palestinians,not preparing ground for it.

I remember back then when the F14 were promising that they will build a strong independent state,and that the age of militia building was long gone.

I remember back then when the F14 were promoting themselves a a wide Lebanese patriotic alliance,and not as "The Sunna and Masi7iyyi 2arba3ta3sh Adar"

I remember back then that the F14 were promising us a state where law ruled,and not daily constitutional breaches and illegal ruling.

I remember and remember so many things back then...And i also remember that so many things were uncovered,and so many masks fell off...The list is too long that i don't know where to start from...

One must be completely blind for him not to see all that appeared and happened during those years...



It evolved to become a success and it had its crucial vital positive impact on the fate of this country so far.



Now it has not only become an electoral alliance,but much more,a national pact,that everyone will join sooner or later.

We're proud of it and you can accuse us of anything you want,we don't care.

4 Years in power and we saw what you people are worth:Nothing.



Done.

Funny because every single point you made HA broke it with out any doubt, how do you build a strong nation while having a militia standing in its face governing where the sovereign country's Army and policing institutions have a right and no right to enter, land or port.

When will you people wake up and see the devastation you have crippled the country with ?? How do you govern when your war lord Berri closed the Parliament house for so long under the command of the Shem and you were all happy about such occurrences.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by LEBANESE FRONT 75

Funny because every single point you made HA broke it with out any doubt, how do you build a strong nation while having a militia standing in its face governing where the sovereign country's Army and policing institutions have a right and no right to enter, land or port.

Whether you like it or not,the resistance and the Army are one,and they make today the perfect combination that protects the country,from the inside and from the outside.

If you have a better solution,feel free to share.But until then,spare us your useless and baseless comments and allegations.

Originally Posted by LEBANESE FRONT 75

When will you people wake up and see the devastation you have crippled the country with ??

Correction:You and what you stand for,crippled the country.

But today,the train is back on tracks...thanks to us.

Originally Posted by LEBANESE FRONT 75

How do you govern when your war lord Berri closed the Parliament house for so long under the command of the Shem and you were all happy about such occurrences.

Syria is out,and we are looking forward to the best relations with it.As long as Berri or anyone else works within the national interests,then no problem with that.

This "Syrian agent" label doesn't fly high anymore.It only fits those who suddenly decided to switch allegiances.

Those are the real danger.And guess where they all are...

[jalbout]

it's very clear that Hezbollah will never give their weapons to the army, the day GMA realized that he made the deal and said to everyone don't worry i will make the christian accept that fact like i made them accept michel murr.
GMA has the power to move the minds of his followers the way he wants . the day he wll tell them that Hezbollah should not have arms they will all agree but now he needs them so every FPMers will defend the arms.

you must know that every single FPMers was against HA before the alliance they even hated them more than they hate FM if saad hariri had accepted FPM's alliance you would be hearing another story about FM and everyone here would have been bashing HA and saying how great Rafik Hariri was.

it is just simple brainwashing...