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People like Jounblatt and Hmede are only good when they are 6 feet underground, either in a cell or in a coffin. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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So what kind of snake does this duo represent? How poisonous is this snake?
The comments about the bells make it clear that some have not yet moved beyond the sectarian civil war, and would like to use what's happening to indirectly settle old sectarian scores. | | | | | Orange Room Moderator
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Originally Posted by Venom why don't we take our bells back while the army is cleaning the mountain from the arms of this criminal ??!!
this is a good opportunity....Can he say no after this humiliation?!! | وهل كان ليحلم الجيش يوما ً بالدخول إلى الإمارة في الجبل؟ | | | | | Orange Room Moderator
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Originally Posted by Lebanese Socialist So what kind of snake does this duo represent? How poisonous is this snake?
The comments about the bells make it clear that some have not yet moved beyond the sectarian civil war, and would like to use what's happening to indirectly settle old sectarian scores. | It is easy for you to get over the civil war since you were never moved from your house or your village. Go ask the thousands of displaced from the mountains how much they are over the civil war!!! | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by GMA forever It is easy for you to get over the civil war since you were never moved from your house or your village. Go ask the thousands of displaced from the mountains how much they are over the civil war!!! | You are making assumptions about me.
But regardless, it strikes me that some are wanting to use what's happening as an indirect means to settle old sectarian scores that date up to 25 years ago. Makes me feel hopeless and very pessimistic about the future of this country. | | | | | Registered Member
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You are making assumptions about me.
But regardless, it strikes me that some are wanting to use what's happening as an indirect means to settle old sectarian scores that date up to 25 years ago. Makes me feel hopeless and very pessimistic about the future of this country. | I don't see why Jumblatt should be left unleashed after 25 years of massacres and lies and misery he brought to the Lebanese people, even up until today he is still using ruse and lies and keeps stockpile of weapons and we should not even say he is snake, otherwise you become pessimistic of the future.
The only pessimism is that i see people who still want the old murderers to remain their leaders, as if in 25 years of "snakism" nobody learned. | | | | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Danny Z For This Useful Post: | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by Danny Z I don't see why Jumblatt should be left unleashed after 25 years of massacres and lies and misery he brought to the Lebanese people, even up until today he is still using ruse and lies and keeps stockpile of weapons and we should not even say he is snake, otherwise you become pessimistic of the future.
The only pessimism is that i see people who still want the old murderers to remain their leaders, as if in 25 years of "snakism" nobody learned. | Point is, I am not sure that these deep sectarian feelings are only about WJ. After all, during the civil war, right or wrong, WJ had the great majority of the Druze behind him. He did not lead an isolated militia without popular support. | | | | | Registered Member
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Point is, I am not sure that these deep sectarian feelings are only about WJ. After all, during the civil war, right or wrong, WJ had the great majority of the Druze behind him. He did not lead an isolated militia without popular support. | I told you eradicating Nazism started with the Nuremberg trial. | | | | | Orange Room Moderator
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Quote: Exclusif : la carte du réseau télécom du Hezbollah geopolitique.com a obtenu la cartographie détaillée du réseau de télécommunications réservé mis en place par le Hezbollah au Liban (voir la carte au bas de cet article). Les milices du Hezbollah avaient dressé des barrages et pris les armes le 7 mai dernier, après la décision du gouvernement de Fouad Siniora de rendre illégal ce réseau télécom du parti de Dieu.
Le système de télécommunications a ainsi été invoqué pour expliquer une semaine de combats armés, les plus graves depuis la fin de la guerre civile en 1990, ayant pris fin hier après l’intervention de la Ligue Arabe, et le retrait du texte gouvernemental.
Une carte d’état-major du Liban le Page Rankingésente dans son intégralité supposée. Les services de sécurité libanais ont tracé les diverses lignes téléphoniques enterrées par des sociétés de BTP et des organisations caritatives proches du Hezbollah.
Selon des journalistes arabes établis à Beyrouth, ils auraient réalisé cette carte sur la base d’indications fournies par des proches du Part Socialiste Progressiste de Walid Joumblatt, qui s’oppose au Hezbollah et à ses liens avec l’Iran et la Syrie. Depuis le mois de mars dernier, cette carte a été montrée a plusieurs interlocuteurs français et américains, à l’initiative du cabinet de Marwan Hamadé, le ministre des télécommunications.
Sa circulation dans les capitales occidentales il y a trois mois, alors même que l’existence de ce réseau est avérée depuis plusieurs années, apparaît rétrospectivement comme un signe annonciateur des combats de la semaine écoulée.
Ce matin, geopolitique.com a pu s’entretenir avec le service du porte-parole du Quai d’Orsay à Paris. Il nous a Page Rankingécisé que cette carte, ou un rapport l’accompagnant, n’avait « pas été remis au ministre français des affaires étrangères », bien que Bernard Kouchner « rencontre régulièrement Marwan Hamadé ».
Lors d’une conférence de presse tenue le 8 mai, le chef du Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, avait indiqué que ce réseau « existait avant l’année 2000, et qu’il avait été renforcé après l’année 2000 ».
Il avait aussi Page Rankingécisé que plusieurs réunions s’étaient déjà tenues avec les autorités libanaises pour discuter de l’avenir de ce réseau. Enfin, Hassan Nasrallah en reconnaissait la destination militaire mais contestait une partie du tracé.
Selon lui, le réseau relie bien la banlieue Sud de Beyrouth au Liban Sud, mais il ne s’étend pas vers l’Est du pays. Des données techniques, qui, pour l’heure, s’avèrent difficiles à vérifier. |  َنشر موقع الكتروني فرنسي متخصص بنشر وثائق سرية، خارطة قال انها لشبكة الاتصالات الهاتفية التابعة لحزب الله
مشيراً الى ان مصدر هذه الخريطة هو الحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي بزعامة وليد جنبلاط ومروان حمادة فتحت عنوان: حصري، نَشر موقع جيوبوليتيك دوت كوم خارطة مفصلة قال إنها تعود لشبكة الاتصالات التابعة لحزب الله
القصة بدأت بحسب المسؤول عن الموقع غيوم داسكييه في شهر شهر آذار / مارس الماضي عندما عُرضت الخارطة المفترضة على عدة أطراف فرنسية وأميركية بمبادرة لبنانية قام بها مكتب وزير الاتصالات مروان حمادة
ونَقل الموقعُ عن صحفيِين عرب في بيروت قولهم ان الخارطة وُضعت على قاعدة معطيات قدمها مقربون من الحزب التقدمي الاشتراكي بزعامة وليد حنبلاط . أضاف ان قوى الأمن اللبنانية رسمت كذلك مختلف الخطوط الهاتفية التي طُمرت تحت الأرض عبر شركات للمقاولات ومنظمات إنسانية أخرى تابعة لحزب الله
" جيوبوليتيك دوت كوم " ذَكر انه استطاع محادثة مكتب الناطق الرسمي باسم الخارجية الفرنسية في باريس والذي أوضح ان التقرير المرفق بالخريطة لم يسلَّم لوزير الخارجية بيرنار كوشنير بالرغم من أن الأخير يلتقي مروان حمادة بشكل منتظم
وكان حمادة قد اضطلع بدور اثارة قضية شبكة الاتصالات منذ شهور امام مجلس وزراء السنيورة ، من باب تصوير الامر على انه مسٌ بسيادة الدولة ومصالحها ، وتولى جنبلاط من ثم تنظيم حملة على حزب الله استَخدم فيها شبكةَ الاتصالات السلكية عنوانا رئيسا
ويؤكد حزب الله ان هذه الشبكة الداخلية للمقاومة سمحت لها خلال الحرب التي شنتها اسرائيل صيف 2006 بابقاء الاتصال بين قيادة المقاومة والوحدات الميدانية بعدما قطعت اسرائيل الاتصالات الخلوية، في وقت تتعرض شبكة الخلوي في الاحوال العادية لعمليات تنصت | | | | | Registered Member
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Questions that I would have:
1. How easy is it to establish a substitute network and how fast can it be accomplished?
2. What would be a viable contingency plan in case the map is correct and it was hit by the Israelis?
3. Is there a more detailed map somewhere or is this the only one available? | | | |  | | |
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