The Halba Massacre - A Survivor's story

[zerolando]

Originally Posted by scorpion

I am sure if you or M14 had any similar videos for Hizbollah or M8 doing similar things it would have been broadcasted on CNN and included in the International Tribunal (the famous Ma7kameh dawlyeh) already.

It is civil war okay i can understand it maybe, and understand if FM were defending themselves, but committing this unbelievable massacre after they surrendered and torturing dying people!!!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!? i guess an animal maybe a lion in the jungle would have more mercy...

So please please stop finding stupid excuses for what these barbaric ANIMALS did

I would like to politely ask you to respect others .
I am fed up with the lebanese lack of mannerism and how hasty you all are into answering a post before you actually take the time to read it and digest the content. You are known worldwide to be first class snakes and for your tendency to mouthfeed people words they never actually said.
Therefore and after this burst of anger at your ignorance from my part. please reread my post and realise that
A) I am nor M14 , nor M8. Excuse me but I have sufficient dignity not to be a sheep in this totally undemocratic system that you call "a country" and these jokes of Leaders that you have.
B) The apparent choice of words in my posts, clearly shows that I am disgusted and concerned at what happened in Halba as much as others.
C) Furthermore, my post indirectly points out a truth, you like it or not. That during the last few days , a lot of point blank executions happened all around the countries, practiced by thugs of both parts of the conflict. But the lack of any sense of dignity that seems to be born with every lebanese, makes it that whether on this forum or the FM one or the LF one, none seems to want to admit that civilians from both parts have been abused, and you all tend to reject the claim of others as shear propaganda.
D) I don't know which school you went to , but try to tone down the "intimidation and accusation" wordings in your posts. If they make you feel more manly, they actually point out to your audience that you lack self-confidence and self-control.
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[agnostic]

the "peaceful" call that has led to this massacre:

YouTube - رسالة الشيخ أسامة الرÙ�اعي الى Ø*زب اللآت والعزى

[Mar1K]

Please watch Ali Kanso interview on almanar (rerun)! Martyrs parents are calling! this is trully heartbreaking. !!!!! STORM THE SERAIIIIIIIL

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by zerolando

I would like to politely ask you to respect others .
I am fed up with the lebanese lack of mannerism and how hasty you all are into answering a post before you actually take the time to read it and digest the content. You are known worldwide to be first class snakes and for your tendency to mouthfeed people words they never actually said.
Therefore and after this burst of anger at your ignorance from my part. please reread my post and realise that
A) I am nor M14 , nor M8. Excuse me but I have sufficient dignity not to be a sheep in this totally undemocratic system that you call "a country" and these jokes of Leaders that you have.
B) The apparent choice of words in my posts, clearly shows that I am disgusted and concerned at what happened in Halba as much as others.
C) Furthermore, my post indirectly points out a truth, you like it or not. That during the last few days , a lot of point blank executions happened all around the countries, practiced by thugs of both parts of the conflict. But the lack of any sense of dignity that seems to be born with every lebanese, makes it that whether on this forum or the FM one or the LF one, none seems to want to admit that civilians from both parts have been abused, and you all tend to reject the claim of others as shear propaganda.
D) I don't know which school you went to , but try to tone down the "intimidation and accusation" wordings in your posts. If they make you feel more manly, they actually point out to your audience that you lack self-confidence and self-control.
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After Reading your post and seing the way you are attacking all Lebanese and calling us snakes and saying "But the lack of any sense of dignity that seems to be born with every lebanese" I have to say that maybe if you have this much hate for Lebanese it is healthier for you not to read our posts or visit our forums..

To your info. We Lebanese despite all the accusations you mentioned above are keeping the world busy, we have invented the alphabets you are using, we have given civilisation to the world, but unfortunately all the world is so jealous from us that they never keep us in peace.

I wonder why you have all this hate toward Lebanese and yet you are so busy on our forumsss

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

Well,

What a pity, I was yesterday with my friends (from different religions), the LFer and Kataeb and Sunni are insisting that what happened was normal as a reaction to what happened in Beirut, they don't see what's wrong

[Jean]

14/05/08 GMT 12:44
النائب الحريري حذر من "التعرض للمفتي الرفاعي او لأي رجل دين ":
ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والدعوة للاحتجاج كانت سلمية وحضارية

وطنية - 14/5/2008 (سياسة) صدر عن رئيس "تيار المستقبل" النائب سعد الحريري البيان التالي:"دأبت قناة "المنار" التابعة ل"حزب الله" على تنظيم حملة تلفيق اخبار وبث سلسلة افتراءات وقلب وقائع مكشوفة تناولت الاحداث الدموية التي حصلت في الايام الماضية في مدينة حلبا في منطقة عكار، في محاولة مفضوحة لتحميل مسؤولية هذه الاحداث ل"تيار المستقبل"، واظهار الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي مفتعل هذه الاحداث بمظهر الضحية المعتدى عليها.

ولم تكتف قناة "المنار" بهذا القدر من التلفيق والافتراء بل، ارفقت حملتها باستثارة الغرائز والتحريض المنظم ضد سماحة مفتي عكار الشيخ اسامة الرفاعي وتصويره بأنه المسؤول عن الاحداث الاخيرة التي حصلت في عكار.

يهم النائب الحريري ان يؤكد ان ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والكل يعرف ان الدعوة التي وجهتها فاعليات ومشايخ عكار ومن ضمنهم المفتي الرفاعي كانت دعوة سلمية وحضارية لابناء عكار للتعبير عن الاحتجاج والغضب لما ارتكبه "حزب الله" وحلفاؤه بحق العاصمة بيروت وسكانها. ولكن هذه الدعوة لم ترق لبعض المسلحين التابعين للحزب السوري القومي، حليف "حزب الله"، فبادروا الى اطلاق النار من مركزهم باتجاه المواطنين العزَّل الذين سقط العديد منهم شهداء وجرحى، كما فعلوا في بيروت وبقية المناطق الاخرى ولدى تلفزيون "المستقبل" الاشرطة المصورة كاملة عمن افتعل الاحداث الدموية في عكار، كما في مناطق عديدة من بيروت، وهي الجهات نفسها التي اشعلت الفتنة في العاصمة وبقية المناطق وقد امتنعنا عن بثها الى الرأي العام من اجل اخماد الفتنة التي اشعلها "حزب الله" بنفسه.

ان ما تبثه قناة "المنار" في ما يتعلق بالاحداث التي حصلت في عكار مؤخرا لا يخرج عن التوجه الواضح والملموس لسياسة "حزب الله" وتوجهاته في التعاطي مع هذه الاحداث التي تسبب بها وحلفاؤه، وهي تشكل تهديدات مباشرة بالقتل والاغتيال لسماحة مفتي عكار وسائر رجال الدين وفاعليات المنطقة الذين شاركوا في التعبير عن مشاعرهم ضد ما يحصل.

ازاء ذلك يحذر النائب الحريري "حزب الله" من مغبَّة التعرض لسماحة مفتي عكار او أي رجل دين في لبنان، او أي من فاعليات منطقة عكار، ايا يكن الفاعل، ويحمل الحزب المسؤولية الكاملة والمباشرة عما يمكن ان يحصل".

he's still denying the massacre

[Orangeblood]

Originally Posted by zerolando

I would like to politely ask you to respect others .
I am fed up with the lebanese lack of mannerism and how hasty you all are into answering a post before you actually take the time to read it and digest the content. You are known worldwide to be first class snakes and for your tendency to mouthfeed people words they never actually said.
Therefore and after this burst of anger at your ignorance from my part. please reread my post and realise that
A) I am nor M14 , nor M8. Excuse me but I have sufficient dignity not to be a sheep in this totally undemocratic system that you call "a country" and these jokes of Leaders that you have.
B) The apparent choice of words in my posts, clearly shows that I am disgusted and concerned at what happened in Halba as much as others.
C) Furthermore, my post indirectly points out a truth, you like it or not. That during the last few days , a lot of point blank executions happened all around the countries, practiced by thugs of both parts of the conflict. But the lack of any sense of dignity that seems to be born with every lebanese, makes it that whether on this forum or the FM one or the LF one, none seems to want to admit that civilians from both parts have been abused, and you all tend to reject the claim of others as shear propaganda.
D) I don't know which school you went to , but try to tone down the "intimidation and accusation" wordings in your posts. If they make you feel more manly, they actually point out to your audience that you lack self-confidence and self-control.
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A) What do u call it if not a Country? Are u lebanese or originally lebanese?
Yes it is a country but needs to be cleaned specially from the warlords of the 75-89 era, needs to be cleaned from the "financial warlods".
c) there was only executions from one part, FM and PSP. Yes civilians were abused like in all wars. I was also abused (75-89), but i hold on to my Lebanon dreaming of a gentleman to rescue it.
D) We went even to universities(AUB) but if u don't beleive in parties then i think u should gom live in KSA where u will enjoy their way of living, thinking, studying, ...

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by John A

14/05/08 GMT 12:44
النائب الحريري حذر من "التعرض للمفتي الرفاعي او لأي رجل دين ":
ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والدعوة للاحتجاج كانت سلمية وحضارية

وطنية - 14/5/2008 (سياسة) صدر عن رئيس "تيار المستقبل" النائب سعد الحريري البيان التالي:"دأبت قناة "المنار" التابعة ل"حزب الله" على تنظيم حملة تلفيق اخبار وبث سلسلة افتراءات وقلب وقائع مكشوفة تناولت الاحداث الدموية التي حصلت في الايام الماضية في مدينة حلبا في منطقة عكار، في محاولة مفضوحة لتحميل مسؤولية هذه الاحداث ل"تيار المستقبل"، واظهار الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي مفتعل هذه الاحداث بمظهر الضحية المعتدى عليها.

ولم تكتف قناة "المنار" بهذا القدر من التلفيق والافتراء بل، ارفقت حملتها باستثارة الغرائز والتحريض المنظم ضد سماحة مفتي عكار الشيخ اسامة الرفاعي وتصويره بأنه المسؤول عن الاحداث الاخيرة التي حصلت في عكار.

يهم النائب الحريري ان يؤكد ان ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والكل يعرف ان الدعوة التي وجهتها فاعليات ومشايخ عكار ومن ضمنهم المفتي الرفاعي كانت دعوة سلمية وحضارية لابناء عكار للتعبير عن الاحتجاج والغضب لما ارتكبه "حزب الله" وحلفاؤه بحق العاصمة بيروت وسكانها. ولكن هذه الدعوة لم ترق لبعض المسلحين التابعين للحزب السوري القومي، حليف "حزب الله"، فبادروا الى اطلاق النار من مركزهم باتجاه المواطنين العزَّل الذين سقط العديد منهم شهداء وجرحى، كما فعلوا في بيروت وبقية المناطق الاخرى ولدى تلفزيون "المستقبل" الاشرطة المصورة كاملة عمن افتعل الاحداث الدموية في عكار، كما في مناطق عديدة من بيروت، وهي الجهات نفسها التي اشعلت الفتنة في العاصمة وبقية المناطق وقد امتنعنا عن بثها الى الرأي العام من اجل اخماد الفتنة التي اشعلها "حزب الله" بنفسه.

ان ما تبثه قناة "المنار" في ما يتعلق بالاحداث التي حصلت في عكار مؤخرا لا يخرج عن التوجه الواضح والملموس لسياسة "حزب الله" وتوجهاته في التعاطي مع هذه الاحداث التي تسبب بها وحلفاؤه، وهي تشكل تهديدات مباشرة بالقتل والاغتيال لسماحة مفتي عكار وسائر رجال الدين وفاعليات المنطقة الذين شاركوا في التعبير عن مشاعرهم ضد ما يحصل.

ازاء ذلك يحذر النائب الحريري "حزب الله" من مغبَّة التعرض لسماحة مفتي عكار او أي رجل دين في لبنان، او أي من فاعليات منطقة عكار، ايا يكن الفاعل، ويحمل الحزب المسؤولية الكاملة والمباشرة عما يمكن ان يحصل".

he's still denying the massacre

He can deny as much as he wants...he does not get it.

[admiral]

جريمة أنصار الحريري في حلبا فظيعة جدا و نحن امتنعنا عن نشر الفيديو لقساوته.هل على سعد الحريري تقديم اعتذارات علنية عن الموضوع؟
نعم، عبر مداخلة تلفزيونية 65%
نعم،عبر بيان 22% ك
لا،هذه حرب و التنكيل بالجثث مستباح 13%

Total Number of Votes : 2492

Guys , i am posting the poll of Tayyar.org regarding the massacre in Halba , many of you were shocked with the videos of the tortures , however what can you say when 13% of the people who participated in the poll are ok with the torturing !!!

Personnaly this poll result shocked me more than the torture video , does it mean that we are living in Lebanon among some people who are close to cannibals and barbarians !!!???

[barid]

Originally Posted by John A

14/05/08 GMT 12:44
النائب الحريري حذر من "التعرض للمفتي الرفاعي او لأي رجل دين ":
ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والدعوة للاحتجاج كانت سلمية وحضارية

وطنية - 14/5/2008 (سياسة) صدر عن رئيس "تيار المستقبل" النائب سعد الحريري البيان التالي:"دأبت قناة "المنار" التابعة ل"حزب الله" على تنظيم حملة تلفيق اخبار وبث سلسلة افتراءات وقلب وقائع مكشوفة تناولت الاحداث الدموية التي حصلت في الايام الماضية في مدينة حلبا في منطقة عكار، في محاولة مفضوحة لتحميل مسؤولية هذه الاحداث ل"تيار المستقبل"، واظهار الحزب السوري القومي الاجتماعي مفتعل هذه الاحداث بمظهر الضحية المعتدى عليها.

ولم تكتف قناة "المنار" بهذا القدر من التلفيق والافتراء بل، ارفقت حملتها باستثارة الغرائز والتحريض المنظم ضد سماحة مفتي عكار الشيخ اسامة الرفاعي وتصويره بأنه المسؤول عن الاحداث الاخيرة التي حصلت في عكار.

يهم النائب الحريري ان يؤكد ان ما حصل في عكار مثبت بالوقائع والكل يعرف ان الدعوة التي وجهتها فاعليات ومشايخ عكار ومن ضمنهم المفتي الرفاعي كانت دعوة سلمية وحضارية لابناء عكار للتعبير عن الاحتجاج والغضب لما ارتكبه "حزب الله" وحلفاؤه بحق العاصمة بيروت وسكانها. ولكن هذه الدعوة لم ترق لبعض المسلحين التابعين للحزب السوري القومي، حليف "حزب الله"، فبادروا الى اطلاق النار من مركزهم باتجاه المواطنين العزَّل الذين سقط العديد منهم شهداء وجرحى، كما فعلوا في بيروت وبقية المناطق الاخرى ولدى تلفزيون "المستقبل" الاشرطة المصورة كاملة عمن افتعل الاحداث الدموية في عكار، كما في مناطق عديدة من بيروت، وهي الجهات نفسها التي اشعلت الفتنة في العاصمة وبقية المناطق وقد امتنعنا عن بثها الى الرأي العام من اجل اخماد الفتنة التي اشعلها "حزب الله" بنفسه.

ان ما تبثه قناة "المنار" في ما يتعلق بالاحداث التي حصلت في عكار مؤخرا لا يخرج عن التوجه الواضح والملموس لسياسة "حزب الله" وتوجهاته في التعاطي مع هذه الاحداث التي تسبب بها وحلفاؤه، وهي تشكل تهديدات مباشرة بالقتل والاغتيال لسماحة مفتي عكار وسائر رجال الدين وفاعليات المنطقة الذين شاركوا في التعبير عن مشاعرهم ضد ما يحصل.

ازاء ذلك يحذر النائب الحريري "حزب الله" من مغبَّة التعرض لسماحة مفتي عكار او أي رجل دين في لبنان، او أي من فاعليات منطقة عكار، ايا يكن الفاعل، ويحمل الحزب المسؤولية الكاملة والمباشرة عما يمكن ان يحصل".

he's still denying the massacre

Applying the "It wasn't me" technic

See: It Wasn't Me - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




(Yo', man) Yo'
(Open up, man) What do you want, man?
(My girl just caught me) You let her catch you?
(I don't know how I let this happen) With who?
(The girl next door, you know) Man
(I don't know what to do) Say it wasn't you
(Alright)

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed
Creeping with the girl next door
Picture this, we were both butt naked, banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had
Given her an extra key
All this time she was standing there
She never took her eyes off me

How you can grant the woman access to your villa
Trespasser and a witness while you cling to your pillow
You better watch your back before she turn into a killer
Best for you and the situation not to call the beaner
To be a true player you have to know how to play
If she say a night, convince her say a day
Never admit to a word when she say makes a claim
And you tell her baby no way

But she caught me on the counter (It wasn't me)
Saw me bangin' on the sofa (It wasn't me)
I even had her in the shower (It wasn't me)
She even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)

She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me)
Heard the words that I told her (It wasn't me)
Heard the scream get louder (It wasn't me)
She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed
Creeping with the girl next door
Picture this, we were both butt naked, banging on the bathroom floor

I had tried to keep her
From what she was about to see
Why should she believe me
When I told her it wasn't me

Make sure she knows it's not you and lead her on the right prefix
Whenever you should see her make the giggolo flex
As funny as it be by you, it not that complex
Seeing is believing so you better change your specs
You know she not gonna be worrying bout things from the past
Hardly recollecting and then she'll go to noontime mass
Wait for your answer: go over there
But if she pack a gun you know you better run fast

But she caught me on the counter (It wasn't me)
Saw me bangin' on the sofa (It wasn't me)
I even had her in the shower (It wasn't me)
She even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)

She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me)
Heard the words that I told her (It wasn't me)
Heard the scream get louder (It wasn't me)
She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed
Creeping with the girl next door
Picture this, we were both butt naked, banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had
Given her an extra key
All this time she was standing there
She never took her eyes off me

Gonna tell her that I'm sorry
For the pain that I've caused
I've been listening to your reasoning
It makes no sense at all
We should tell her that I'm sorry
For the pain that I've caused
You may think that you're a player
But you're completely lost
That's why I sing

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed
Creeping with the girl next door
Picture this, we were both butt naked, banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had
Given her an extra key
All this time she was standing there
She never took her eyes off me