The Halba Massacre - A Survivor's story

[John A]

I added those videos for download :
The mother of victim Fadi el cheikh
The sister of victim fadi el cheikh


youtube :

YouTube - Halba's massacre: Sister of victim fadi el cheikh
YouTube - Halba's massacre: Mother of victim fadi el cheikh

[zerolando]

Are you really disgusted by this video, because the content of it is barbaric and cruel and non-human?
or are you only consciously showing disgust towards whats happening in this video because the victims are allies of yours?
Because if most of you were as self-conscious and self-righteous as you claim, I should have heard you screaming disgust and anger at "ALL" the barbaric crimes committed last week, the ones in Halba , the ones in Beirut equally so. Some unarmed civilians have been shot at point blank in the Beirut Suburbs too. Where was your conscious and disgust then?
Or have we become so hypocrits to the point that our opponent's pain is less relevant then ours?
Its so easy to say what we are saying, while safely sitting behind a computer screen, but people who have lived in real democracies (and Lebanon was never one) understand that WE ARE ALL EQUAL in the EYES OF THE LAW. And Thus all barbaric crimes committed by all parties are EQUALLY inhuman.

[shadow1]

What horror! Even Ben laden and co show more mercy at times. Hate to think what these guys will do when the sectarian fighting gets going in earnest.

[Mr Aoun]

Originally Posted by John A

I added those videos for download :
The mother of victim Fadi el cheikh
The sister of victim fadi el cheikh


i'll add them to youtube in a while .

:( :( :( :( :( these are worse than the massacre videos.

[LebReporter]

If you watch almanar tv now you can see that interveiw again with Ali Kanso and the family of the martyrs calling

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by shadow1

What horror! Even Ben laden and co show more mercy at times. Hate to think what these guys will do when the sectarian fighting gets going in earnest.

I personally have never seen anything like this in my entire life. It's shocking. Zionists don't do that to Muslims. They kill you and leave you, not torture you as you die. Horrific is not the word. What's more horrific is what I heard the mother of the Australian victim say about the killers, their age and what they said. Goes to show how much ignorance we have in that zoo. Instead of flushing money down blood pipes, do something good for a change Saad thug.

[nestor]

Originally Posted by zerolando

Are you really disgusted by this video, because the content of it is barbaric and cruel and non-human?
or are you only consciously showing disgust towards whats happening in this video because the victims are allies of yours?
Because if most of you were as self-conscious and self-righteous as you claim, I should have heard you screaming disgust and anger at "ALL" the barbaric crimes committed last week, the ones in Halba , the ones in Beirut equally so. Some unarmed civilians have been shot at point blank in the Beirut Suburbs too. Where was your conscious and disgust then?
Or have we become so hypocrits to the point that our opponent's pain is less relevant then ours?
Its so easy to say what we are saying, while safely sitting behind a computer screen, but people who have lived in real democracies (and Lebanon was never one) understand that WE ARE ALL EQUAL in the EYES OF THE LAW. And Thus all barbaric crimes committed by all parties are EQUALLY inhuman.

7abibe we condemn all barbaric acts regardless of who the victim is
But the difference here is that we are seing these things in front of us
We never saw hezbollah torturing wounded people and playing the hero role on them while they were catching their last breaths.

[zerolando]

@nestor

I wasn't making an accusation. I was more trying to point out to people that such things have already happened in the last couple of days.. I am talking about "executing" people. It has been done by both sides. This is the ugly face of war. Thus do not be rejoiced with what is happening <-- that is my main message because it appears to me some people are happy with what is happening and don't realise the consequences , hate and scars all of this leaves.

As far as mutilating bodies. I just saw the videos on youtube too. "3alam bala Marba".. have you been to Akar before, some people there are plain barbaric in their everyday life so what did you expect really? for them to respect the dead? Remember we are in Lebanon, i.e an underdeveloped undercivilized country. 7ash ned7ak 3ala ba3ed. We're on the same level as countries like Sudan.

last, this kind of barbaric acts in Halba and Beirut equally, where civilians pay the price for hate is a shameful scar we as lebanese will always carry with us wherever we go in the world.... And empty hateful accusations never solve the problem.
regards
zerolando

[scorpion]

Originally Posted by zerolando

Are you really disgusted by this video, because the content of it is barbaric and cruel and non-human?
or are you only consciously showing disgust towards whats happening in this video because the victims are allies of yours?
Because if most of you were as self-conscious and self-righteous as you claim, I should have heard you screaming disgust and anger at "ALL" the barbaric crimes committed last week, the ones in Halba , the ones in Beirut equally so. Some unarmed civilians have been shot at point blank in the Beirut Suburbs too. Where was your conscious and disgust then?
Or have we become so hypocrits to the point that our opponent's pain is less relevant then ours?
Its so easy to say what we are saying, while safely sitting behind a computer screen, but people who have lived in real democracies (and Lebanon was never one) understand that WE ARE ALL EQUAL in the EYES OF THE LAW. And Thus all barbaric crimes committed by all parties are EQUALLY inhuman.

I am sure if you or M14 had any similar videos for Hizbollah or M8 doing similar things it would have been broadcasted on CNN and included in the International Tribunal (the famous Ma7kameh dawlyeh) already.

It is civil war okay i can understand it maybe, and understand if FM were defending themselves, but committing this unbelievable massacre after they surrendered and torturing dying people!!!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!? i guess an animal maybe a lion in the jungle would have more mercy...

So please please stop finding stupid excuses for what these barbaric ANIMALS did

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by zerolando

@nestor

I wasn't making an accusation. I was more trying to point out to people that such things have already happened in the last couple of days.. I am talking about "executing" people. It has been done by both sides. This is the ugly face of war. Thus do not be rejoiced with what is happening <-- that is my main message because it appears to me some people are happy with what is happening and don't realise the consequences , hate and scars all of this leaves.

As far as mutilating bodies. I just saw the videos on youtube too. "3alam bala Marba".. have you been to Akar before, some people there are plain barbaric in their everyday life so what did you expect really? for them to respect the dead? Remember we are in Lebanon, i.e an underdeveloped undercivilized country. 7ash ned7ak 3ala ba3ed. We're on the same level as countries like Sudan.

last, this kind of barbaric acts in Halba and Beirut equally, where civilians pay the price for hate is a shameful scar we as lebanese will always carry with us wherever we go in the world.... And empty hateful accusations never solve the problem.
regards
zerolando

walaw what happened to sa3doun promises to start a swiss like academy in akkar for football and other things
he said that syrai prevented his dad from coming to akkar, so who is stopping him from doing anything alt all there.
any way, it is imperative how you compared the poeple in akkar to savages. it shows how sa3doun always looked at this people.
BTW akkar people thge majority are decent and polite and hard working
only a minority who follwed the wahhabis sand salafist ideas out of money of religious zeal are waht you call
and the type of people you talk about are found everywhere especially with people wearing suits and claiming to be civil as a facade.
an example is qouraytem and house of saud