The Halba Massacre - A Survivor's story

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R.I.P

But i want everyone to remember that : if HA couldn't manage those thugs in beirut and jabal KNOWN FPMERS including myself would have suffered the same thing from FM's allies!!

[revolution425]

watch how they are making fun of the dead in the video and how he is asking to shoot the video while he has his (mashiey) in the mouth of one of the dead tuely barbaric tfoo

[Mr Aoun]

Originally Posted by TayyarBeino

Mikhail is the only male in the family, also the other victim Fadi Al-Sheikh has been in Australia for 12 years and came for a two week vacation to Lebanon. ppl who did this are sick, elen allah

A member of this forum knows the family personally in Australia. Fadi Al-Shekh (rip) leaves behind a wife and 5 children. They may hold a fund raiser for their family so they don't have financial worries during their time of mourning. If they do, details will be posted for those who wish to assist.

[ballack]

OH MY GOD ..................I was shocked by this video and by the action of this "pepole"
may their souls rest in peace!

[zerolando]

Hey People.

First of all, like all other people in this forum I would like to express my disgust at what we saw in the video.. This is inacceptable.
Like a lot of you, I would really like to know what has happened there. Unfortunately the video doesn't really show whether these people were shot at point blank, as acclaimed or whether died in the fights as other people are claiming. I would have hoped, despite of my disgust to find this out from the video. I am saying this because if these people were truely shot at point blank, this is an unforgivable crime. This is something totally barbaric. Unfortunately this video doesn't provide clear info about how those people died.

Second , I find it imperative, whether we're loyalists , or opposition, to differentiate between members of a political party and civilians who politically support a Political party and sometimes take the initiative to commit crimes as ugly as the one we are witnessing in this video.
regards
zerolando

[hannoush]

you just tried to find an excuse as usual for 14feb
anyway you should learn something in life
if you do not want to condemn something wholeheartly, is better not do and keep quiet
you really sounded very insensenble to say the least.
maybe you had good intentions, but whether shot close or far, playing with dead bosies is a crime under geneva.
what this people did is waht a typical wahhabi get trained for
god saved many in lebanon, because that fate would have been meted on many of opposition people especially FPMers .
the christian blood bath would have been 100 times as before since sg have not had his feel for a long time.

[CPL]

Originally Posted by zerolando

Hey People.

First of all, like all other people in this forum I would like to express my disgust at what we saw in the video.. This is inacceptable.
Like a lot of you, I would really like to know what has happened there. Unfortunately the video doesn't really show whether these people were shot at point blank, as acclaimed or whether died in the fights as other people are claiming. I would have hoped, despite of my disgust to find this out from the video. I am saying this because if these people were truely shot at point blank, this is an unforgivable crime. This is something totally barbaric. Unfortunately this video doesn't provide clear info about how those people died.

Second , I find it imperative, whether we're loyalists , or opposition, to differentiate between members of a political party and civilians who politically support a Political party and sometimes take the initiative to commit crimes as ugly as the one we are witnessing in this video.
regards
zerolando

I think someone playing around with bodies would definitely execute people.

[Youchka]

You do not need to see the HA men who were EXECUTED (eh zoolander mech barkeh executed definitely executed) and you will find this a walk n a flower field.

No one give me excuses about these barbaric actions, whether Joumblat gave the orders or FM gave the orders or not. These are barbaric criminal creatures, animals, harbored by those parties. Some say Amal have thugs, yes true they do, but obviously Amal thugs (or whoever) burned the FTV, wow, big deal, did they massacre people? You talk to me about terrorizing people of Beirut, I will be very blunt ma3 albon charr, a couple of days and they will go back to ywal3ouha bel jemmeizeh ou yetlakaho 3al baher, but the ones who died will never have the chance to see their children again.

I was against publishing this and other horrors because I know how much indignation it filled me, so how much will it do to others.

[zerolando]

Originally Posted by hannoush

you just tried to find an excuse as usual for 14feb
anyway you should learn something in life
if you do not want to condemn something wholeheartly, is better not do and keep quiet
you really sounded very insensenble to say the least.
maybe you had good intentions, but whether shot close or far, playing with dead bosies is a crime under geneva.
what this people did is waht a typical wahhabi get trained for
god saved many in lebanon, because that fate would have been meted on many of opposition people especially FPMers .
the christian blood bath would have been 100 times as before since sg have not had his feel for a long time.

First of all.
Allow me to express disgust, unfortunately!, at how fast (typical lebanese) you went into categorizing me into 8 or 14 when you said
"you just tried to find an excuse as usual for the 14 of Feb"
Excuse me ? " as usual" ????? Have we met before ? I don't think so!
You don't know me as much as I don't know you. Who told you I was Feb 14 or March 8? You decided so because???
So please show some god **** respect. You wanna humiliate yourself. Thats fine with me, but don't drag me down with you with your silly lebanese categorization game.
So I am gonna politely ask you and advise you in a friendly manner to go "teach life lessons" to someone your own size and your own educational level. Leave me out of this ridiculous lebanese game of "who outsmarts who".

Yes I sounded insensitive (the right word), excuse me, not purposefully but because part of a previous job I had was in a hospital. So I got used to it. No more nor less..

Second I never said playing(not mutilating) with bodies is not a crime.. But IT SURELY IS NOT AS BIG OF A CRIME as if they were shot at POINT BLANK. If they were , and after looking at the video for the second time, I think at least 3 of them were, THIS IS A MAJOR CRIME according to your dear GENEVA convention or any other convention to that matter. AND if so , THIS should definitely be investigated, and the perpetrators should definitely get the maximum art of punishment allowed by law, we all know what that is in LEbanon.

As far as the last paragraph in my statement. This applies as I said , and if you really read it , to both sides. I said lets make a logical differentiation between the party's actual members, and civilians who politically adher to a political party and might take personal initiatives and commit crime. And this applies to the supporters of both MArch 8 or March 14. This is important because it has already happened, during the last couple of days on both sides of the conflict.... For example , following the logic I just mentioned, and hoped some of you would adopt, I refuse to say that the person who shot and killed 3 people during the funeral cermony of a sunnite in beirut was a AMAL member. He was definitely a shiite, and maybe an avid supporter of AMAL, but I refuse to accuse AMAL of the crime. For me it was a civilian who might politically support amal , and by his own personal initiative, committed a crime and killed people.
regards,
zerolando

[CitizenOfTheRepublic]

Guys don't turn this thread into a discussion...
Instead try to show respect for the dead...

This is NOT politics, this is the real face of violence...

My condolences to all the families who lost a loved one, no one can ever make that up for them...