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Another brilliant affirmation of her lack of charisma, could someone actually back it out?

What is political zest in your opinion, kindly explain.




That's probably the 3rd time that you express your appreciation for "my logic", I believe the message went through and I thank you for your consideration.



No support for your lack of charisma, lack of intelligence claims, enough said.
I like Nayla Tueini for what she is, meaning a hard working journalist who probably will have a good career (having her journalism skills which in my opinion are average and her father's legacy combined). However, I have to agree with Hanna, I do not think she has charisma, now you ask to back it up, well I am sorry I do not have her in an interview on video, when you see her talk next time, you check if you catch the charisma or not.
I do not agree that she is not intelligent, she is, she is Gebran's daughter after all, unfortunately it hurts me to see her alongside the 14 feb bunch the same way it hurt me to see her dad next to these (for the most of them) criminals.
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read my earlier post in our church
i heard the woman, it was enough for me
to be fair i will not give her the benefit of doubt, i see her as an 14shbatt.
but others on 14shabtt as much as i dislike them, some have better charisma and do not ask me who??? i will not tell

michou ????
caghlos maybe
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That's probably the 3rd time that you express your appreciation for "my logic", I believe the message went through and I thank you for your consideration.
u keeping tabs ? hehe, sorry if i vexed u, but i am talking about the logic u employed sometimes not ur fine esteemed person, i hope u was not offended.
it's like getting offended if someone said that ur purse or car had a color mismatch, it's just a purse, it's just a car, and it's just an indirect color opinion.. i wouldnt think much about it.

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No support for your lack of charisma, lack of intelligence claims, enough said.
then if this is how u see my answer, then why don't u be "better" than i am and plz give me useful data that support her "apparent" charisma & intelligence ?
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I like Nayla Tueini for what she is, meaning a hard working journalist who probably will have a good career (having her journalism skills which in my opinion are average and her father's legacy combined). However, I have to agree with Hanna, I do not think she has charisma, now you ask to back it up, well I am sorry I do not have her in an interview on video, when you see her talk next time, you check if you catch the charisma or not.
I do not agree that she is not intelligent, she is, she is Gebran's daughter after all, unfortunately it hurts me to see her alongside the 14 feb bunch the same way it hurt me to see her dad next to these (for the most of them) criminals.
Thank you for a relatively fair assessment.

A couple of notes, first the onus is on those making the claims... it isn't that hard to find a clip for her out there, here's one from YouTube:



Secondly, you state your disagreement on her non-intelligence but merely because she is Gebran's daughter as you put it - one could be the son of Gebran or whoever without being intelligent and vice versa, not a valid argument Youchka.

You do however mention the real issues with her, which is her political stands - now that's something different and one can still be charismatic and intelligent even if he/she does not share your political views.
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Thank you for a relatively fair assessment.

A couple of notes, first the onus is on those making the claims... it isn't that hard to find a clip for her out there, here's one from YouTube:



Secondly, you state your disagreement on her non-intelligence but merely because she is Gebran's daughter as you put it - one could be the son of Gebran or whoever without being intelligent and vice versa, not a valid argument Youchka.

You do however mention the real issues with her, which is her political stands - now that's something different and one can still be charismatic and intelligent even if he/she does not share your political views.
sadly i find those who keep bringing their dead relatives in their political stances to be mentally unhinged at best, hypocrites at worse.

most would say that they "follow the line of the departed" instead of saying that "they are in the same parallel line as that of the departed". only "geniuses" think that can wear the shoes of others.

that said, even if they are great ppl, its does not resolve their problem if they are pitted against even better opponents. that's the gist of the matter.

as for political stances, heck yeah she is from the different camp than i am, that goes without saying, Abs wouldn't be pitted against her if she is on our team. but then again if she was, i have to wonder for what reason ?? we don't need unstable excess package that tend to backfire..
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Tueini is cute and that's the only thing she got going for her.

Abs is cute, charismatic and is seemingly intelligent.

sorry Nayla, even with ur Tueini bloodline u are simply outmatched here if one is to vote with his mind and not with his emotions.
Since when do people vote with their mind instead of their emotions?
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Thank you for a relatively fair assessment.

A couple of notes, first the onus is on those making the claims... it isn't that hard to find a clip for her out there, here's one from YouTube:

See, you chose a clip that shows Nayla in tears, right after her dad's death, and this does not show a charismatic person, but rather a wounded daughter mourning her father.

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Secondly, you state your disagreement on her non-intelligence but merely because she is Gebran's daughter as you put it - one could be the son of Gebran or whoever without being intelligent and vice versa, not a valid argument Youchka.
I did not say she is intelligent JUST because she is Gebran's daughter, I said she is intelligent, and being Gebran's daughter is a plus on that side (not the ONLY reason).

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You do however mention the real issues with her, which is her political stands - now that's something different and one can still be charismatic and intelligent even if he/she does not share your political views.
Her being on 14 feb is what makes me sad but which is not the MAIN issue to me. This if course is unrelated to her intelligence or charisma or hadameh or sa'aleh. The main issue I have with Nayla is that she is too young, inexperienced, lacks the charisma I think is needed.

I tell you Dry Ice, if Ziad Abs has a TV debate with Nayla Tueini, he can crush her, and I am not saying that because I like Ziad or dislike Nayla, I am saying it because I've seen both people on TV, speaking.
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Since when do people vote with their mind instead of their emotions?
hehe, granted.

i did not assume otherwise, i was just trying to present my point.
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I tell Dry Ice, if Ziad Abs has a TV debate with Nayla Tueini, he can crush her, and I am not saying that because I like Ziad or dislike Nayla, I am saying it because I've seen both people on TV, speaking.
great idea, i love it. we should push for it.

i won't say that ziad will crush her or anything or vice versa, i will just love to sit down and watch what will happen.

excellent idea
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See, you chose a clip that shows Nayla in tears, right after her dad's death, and this does not show a charismatic person, but rather a wounded daughter mourning her father.
Both aren't mutually exclusive... plus it wasn't I who started throwing labels.

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Her being on 14 feb is what makes me sad but which is not the MAIN issue to me. This if course is unrelated to her intelligence or charisma or hadameh or sa'aleh. The main issue I have with Nayla is that she is too young, inexperienced, lacks the charisma I think is needed.
Agreed on a number of points, but the need for what?

What is politics for you..

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I tell you Dry Ice, if Ziad Abs has a TV debate with Nayla Tueini, he can crush her, and I am not saying that because I like Ziad or dislike Nayla, I am saying it because I've seen both people on TV, speaking.
Let him "crush" her or do whatever he wants with her, what does that prove or mean, how does it make her better or worse in terms of public governance?

She would be candidate for a legislative parliament and not for political talkshows. Mosbah Ahdab can also crush Edgard Maalouf in a talkshow, does it make him a better statesman?
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