The Geagea daily telegraph

[ranbib]

Originally Posted by just_lebanese_80

This sentence right there summarizes every thing that is wrong with the lebanese political system where supporters of each zaim are convinced that their leaders are right all the time and never make any wrong decision, wlak making mistakes is part of human nature unless we re talking about saints of course.
oh wait how could i forget according to gebran bassil michel aoun ta7et allah bi chway and i m sure by now nasrallah has joined him there. :D

to finish you sentence SG is below the devil bi chway

check the past of each zaim and judje

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by CedarLb

ردّ جعجع على مبادرة العماد عون حول تشكيلة الحكومة العتيدة وتوزيع حصص رئاسة الجمهورية بالقول: لا يمكن فرض على رئيس الجمهورية مبدأ إختيار وزير مسلم وأخر مسيحي، لأنّ الرئيس يريد أخذ ثلاث وزارات مسيحية، وقال: "لا حلفاء العماد عون يقبلون باعطاء الرئيس حقيبة وزارية شيعية ولا أخصامه يقبلون باعطائه وزير سنّي، لا يمكن دعم رئيس الجمهورية بهذه الطريقة فدعم حقوق المسيحيين لا تكون بهكذا مقولة".

أضاف جعجع: "يقولون أنّ الرئيس سليمان رئيساً توافقياً وبالتالي عليه نيل وزارتين مسيحية وأخرى مسلمة، هذه المقولة مردودة لأنّه من الأفضل أن تكون الوزارة بيد الرئيس سليمان على ان تكون الوزارة السيادية مع العماد عون لأنها تكون مع حزب الله وسوريا...".
تابع جعجع "العماد عون يعلّي سقفه بغضّ النظر عن وضع البلد والناس ويطرح طروحات لا ادري إن كانت مدروسة، لكن حزب الله وأمل وسوريا من ورائه يستفيدون من عرقلته لهذه الأشياء ويتغنجوا ليأخذون اثماناً معينّة... عجيب غريب أنّ العماد عون في هذه الظروف الذي نعيشها يطرح تعديل صلاحيات رئاسة الجمهورية لأنّه ساعتئذِ سيطرح تعديلات صلاحيات مئة مجلس آخر، هل تعجب العماد عون صلاحيات رئيس المجلس النيابي؟ هل من المنطق طرح تعديل الدستور برمتّه؟".

ورداّ على سؤال حول لقاء مسيحي طالب فيه العماد عون قال: "كان يجب دقّ الأجراس في كلّ قرى لبنان وكان على الناس الإبتهاج، لأنّ صدر تكتّل مسيحي جديد، فظيع أمر تكتّل التغيير والإصلاح بمحاربتهم الفساد، بدأوا من زغرتا لتنتهي أبعد من زحلة لتصل الى قلب سوريا، مروراً بالبترون، هنيئاً للمسيحيين بهذا الإصلاح وبهذا التطوّر وبهذه الحداثة داخل العمل السياسي، أقترح تسمية هذا التكتّل بتكتّل جميل السيّد ورستم غزالي، وأنا في المناسبة مطمئن على وجود صديقي القديم كريم بقرادوني في هذا التكتّل، تذكّرت البارحة عند مشاهدتي الصورة تسويق المنتجات لدى بعض الشركات كتغيير الغلاف أو تغيير التسمية... نحن كتجمّع 14 آذار لم نعط ولا مرّة تسميات أخرى أو غلافات أخرى للتسويق بعد كساد موسمنا، الجوهر موجود عندنا، كنت محتاراً أمس على كثرة دقّ الأجراس ففتجت التلفاز فوجدت أنهّم يعلنون عن التكتّل".

وردّاً على سؤال هل يمكن إتهام العماد عون بأنّه سوري قال: "لا يمكن البناء على ما يقال، يقولون يريدون بناء شراكة حقيقية لكن أنا أحيلكم الى تلفزيون المنار والـ
"OTV"
تصاريح اليومية".ـ

Source: tayyar.org

I need to comment on the bold parts one by one:
1- SG is admitting that his Sunni partners will not accept to give the President a Sunni minister. Why not? Isn't the President the savior, and the consensual, and the one who Hariri and coalition chose? Why do they want others to give the President what they do not allow themselves to give?
Also, from what I understood and anyone correct me if I am wrong, when GMA proposed the Muslim and Christian for President, the Muslim was to be neutral Chiite (this is what I understood).

2- Geagea prefers that Sleiman gets the ministry so that GMA does not get it since it will be in the hands of Syria. Geagea and his partners have no problem giving HA a siyediyeh. Sorry I am totally confused here, so it is OK for HA/Amal to have one, but not GMA because it would be as if it is in the hands of HA and Syria?

3-His answer to the question about GMA being Syrian is just WOW, really I totally understand how someone like chafic finds the statement very interesting, very logical, making sense..... Bravo, your "making sense" standards are going high and high by the day.

[Ashrafieh_101]

Originally Posted by Youchka

I need to comment on the bold parts one by one:
1- SG is admitting that his Sunni partners will not accept to give the President a Sunni minister. Why not? Isn't the President the savior, and the consensual, and the one who Hariri and coalition chose? Why do they want others to give the President what they do not allow themselves to give?
Also, from what I understood and anyone correct me if I am wrong, when GMA proposed the Muslim and Christian for President, the Muslim was to be neutral Chiite (this is what I understood).

2- Geagea prefers that Sleiman gets the ministry so that GMA does not get it since it will be in the hands of Syria. Geagea and his partners have no problem giving HA a siyediyeh. Sorry I am totally confused here, so it is OK for HA/Amal to have one, but not GMA because it would be as if it is in the hands of HA and Syria?

3-His answer to the question about GMA being Syrian is just WOW, really I totally understand how someone like chafic finds the statement very interesting, very logical, making sense..... Bravo, your "making sense" standards are going high and high by the day.

1) GMS refused to give up his 2 christian ministries. Geagea had nothing to do with it
2) Not true. M14 is saying that M8 can have a siyediye not only HA/Amal. If HA gives it to Aoun, there's no problem! There are 4 siyedeyet, the pres gets 2, M14 1 and M8 1. What's wrong with that?
3) Being on the same team as Wahhab, Irslen, Frangeh, Nasrallah, Berri, Hirden, ... makes you Syrian! Sorry!

[METALLICA]

Originally Posted by TAYYAR AL AOUNI

This simple peice of metal would solve the problem.

Send him back to prison.

He's already out of prison, the key won't help much anymore.

Originally Posted by Orange Blood

You forgot to mention why Nelson Mandela was sent to prison....big difference.
NM spent 27 years compare to 11 of SG.
NM was against apartheid, SG was against, well everyone that did not believe in his ideas.
NM changed his thinking once he was released from jail to reconcilition and negotiation.. SG changed to worse than before entering jail.
I say, we send SG back to jail and let him serve an additional 16 years so you can compare him to Nelson Mandela.

It's not about quantity orange blood, it's about quality.

[May7]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

3) Being on the same team as Wahhab, Irslen, Frangeh, Nasrallah, Berri, Hirden, ... makes you Syrian! Sorry!

LOOOOOOL... And Being on the same team as Jumblat, Hariri, Geagea, Zahra, Khaddam...What does it makes you?

A war criminal, a mass murderer, an Embezzler or maybe a saint

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

1) GMS refused to give up his 2 christian ministries. Geagea had nothing to do with it
2) Not true. M14 is saying that M8 can have a siyediye not only HA/Amal. If HA gives it to Aoun, there's no problem! There are 4 siyedeyet, the pres gets 2, M14 1 and M8 1. What's wrong with that?
3) Being on the same team as Wahhab, Irslen, Frangeh, Nasrallah, Berri, Hirden, ... makes you Syrian! Sorry!

1- I did not mention what Sleiman wants or decided or wishes or will do. I am commenting on what Samir Geagea said. He said THE SUNNI AND SHIITE WILL NOT ACCEPT TO GIVE THE PRESIDENT. Either comment on that part or refrain.
And who told you Sleiman did not accept? Walla I heard that he has no problem with it at all.

2- Well the siyediyeh will either be for HA/Amal or FPM. So whoever gets it, it will be in the Syrian hands as per Geagea, so how are they accepting to give it to them?

3- Your answer to my comment is a simple proof that you and SG are on the same "longueur d'onde". Again, and I will go slow with you, read the question asked to him, read his reply, but again, don't bother, you will probably find it as sharp as an answer can be, Geagea is your leader what can I say.

[julesvernes99]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

3) Being on the same team as Wahhab, Irslen, Frangeh, Nasrallah, Berri, Hirden, ... makes you Syrian! Sorry!

But your beloved leader allied with Berri & Nasrallah during the elections....he must be Syrian moooooooo?

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by julesvernes99

But your beloved leader allied with Berri & Nasrallah during the elections....he must be Syrian moooooooo?

i dont think you get the rules of the game.

Case 1:

• when the LF strikes an alliance with HA and Amal, HA and Amal become Lebanese,
• when FPM strikes an alliance with HA and Amal, FPM becomes pro-iranian.

Case 2:

• when Sanyoura calls for best relations with syria, he becomes a national hero
• when GMA calls for good relations with syria, he becomes a collaborator

Case 3:

• when the sunni extremists burn ashrafieh, it is ok they are our allies, tawlou belkoun ya shabeb.
• when the shiites protest agaisnt the rising prices of food and gas, they become iranian agents with a premeditated plan to establish wilayat el fakih, --> houjoum ya shabeb!

[L'arbalette]

Originally Posted by Ashrafieh_101

3) Being on the same team as Wahhab, Irslen, Frangeh, Nasrallah, Berri, Hirden, ... makes you Syrian! Sorry!

So If I'm following your logic: being on the same team as WJ and the Salafi extremist of Dinneyh ...makes you a butcher of christian, right?

Oh, sorry, you already were a butcher of christians even before ... my mistake

[JD DC]

[quote=Tayyar Keserwen;801142]13:35 وصف جعجع تكتّل التغيير والإصلاح بتكتّل رستم غزالي وجميل السيّد وقال في مؤتمر صحفي منذ بعض الوقت هنيئاً للمسيحيين بهذا الإصلاح الذي يبدو انّه وصل الى سوريا، كما هاجم جعجع محطتي المنار والـ"OTV" اللتان تلعبان دوراً تضليلياً.

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Skaff, Franjeh, Pakradoni, Hezeb 2allah, 2amal, 2awme' soure', this is your takattoul...
Minimum Roustoum Ghazali and Jamil el Sayyid, or is any of these groups anti-sirian and i m mistaken???