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Default FPM, Signs of Significant Failures!? - 18th August 2009

FPM, Signs of Significant Failures!?

How can we trust FPM when it is exhibiting significant and repeated signs of failure? That is a question every FPM and Aoun supporter has to pose at this stage. The most recent and significant failure of FPM is that it has been getting successfully drawn by its opponents into ‘battles’ and ‘battlefields’ that are not of its making, relentlessly since 2005. The battle is always conducted in FPM’s backyard, going recently as far as exploiting Aoun’s family, at timing always selected by the opponents while FPM and the Opposition lay on their backs like a helpless rape victim. The sad part in all this is that FPM and the opposition don’t have to be victims. Their opponents give them all the ’fatty’ material necessary to fight back. It is obvious though that no one among FPM’s leadership has read one of the most useful and most used books that is 3000 years old: "Art of War". For sure there is no doubt that no one on FPM’s media team has read it while all the signs indicate that the opposing team has.

An extreme failure by these people is causing Aoun to be drawn personally into harmful battles such as defending Gebran Bassil’s candidacy. Gebran Bassil was one of the most successful ministers the government has ever had in a while, yet he has to be defended and by none other than by Aoun himself. At this time, it sounds like FPM is a one-man army: Aoun (ma fi illa Aoun bil Jayesh). Under these circumstances, if Aoun goes one must fear that all would be gone.

Any time Aoun has to interfere to solve problem or fight a battle such as the recent one of defending a very successful minister with a great record indicates that everyone in the FPM hierarchy below him has failed at their job including OTV. Where are the strategic thinkers who are leading the events and not simply reacting to them? Where are the battles that are brought to the enemy’s backyards instead of FPM’s? Where is OTV at the forefront of this? Whining alone is not an effective weapon. Such failures at all levels in Tayyar are resulting in Aoun’s personal intervention. The least Aoun has to interfere is an indication of the success of his team. Simply like managing a company, one is as good as his employees and the employees are as good as the leadership of the manager. We know Aoun’s skills in this regard as we have witnessed the level of ‘battles’ he has fought and still fighting, and the number and level of opponents he managed to face successfully. What does that say about the rest? I leave it to FPM to answer this question.

Finally, one must not discount the Opposition’s failure as a whole in this regard. While the Loyalists are most likely being managed and orchestrated by one single entity, which allow them to efficiently exploit every issue whether against Aoun, HA, or anyone else for that matter, the opposition is failing to react an equivalently efficient and coordinated manner that deflates the Loyalists’ plans and schemes.
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FPM, Signs of Significant Failures!?

How can we trust FPM when it is exhibiting significant and repeated signs of failure? That is a question every FPM and Aoun supporter has to pose at this stage. The most recent and significant failure of FPM is that it has been getting successfully drawn by its opponents into ‘battles’ and ‘battlefields’ that are not of its making, relentlessly since 2005. The battle is always conducted in FPM’s backyard, going recently as far as exploiting Aoun’s family, at timing always selected by the opponents while FPM and the Opposition lay on their backs like a helpless rape victim. The sad part in all this is that FPM and the opposition don’t have to be victims. Their opponents give them all the ’fatty’ material necessary to fight back. It is obvious though that no one among FPM’s leadership has read one of the most useful and most used books that is 3000 years old: "Art of War". For sure there is no doubt that no one on FPM’s media team has read it while all the signs indicate that the opposing team has.

An extreme failure by these people is causing Aoun to be drawn personally into harmful battles such as defending Gebran Bassil’s candidacy. Gebran Bassil was one of the most successful ministers the government has ever had in a while, yet he has to be defended and by none other than by Aoun himself. At this time, it sounds like FPM is a one-man army: Aoun (ma fi illa Aoun bil Jayesh). Under these circumstances, if Aoun goes one must fear that all would be gone.

Any time Aoun has to interfere to solve problem or fight a battle such as the recent one of defending a very successful minister with a great record indicates that everyone in the FPM hierarchy below him has failed at their job including OTV. Where are the strategic thinkers who are leading the events and not simply reacting to them? Where are the battles that are brought to the enemy’s backyards instead of FPM’s? Where is OTV at the forefront of this? Whining alone is not an effective weapon. Such failures at all levels in Tayyar are resulting in Aoun’s personal intervention. The least Aoun has to interfere is an indication of the success of his team. Simply like managing a company, one is as good as his employees and the employees are as good as the leadership of the manager. We know Aoun’s skills in this regard as we have witnessed the level of ‘battles’ he has fought and still fighting, and the number and level of opponents he managed to face successfully. What does that say about the rest? I leave it to FPM to answer this question.

Finally, one must not discount the Opposition’s failure as a whole in this regard. While the Loyalists are most likely being managed and orchestrated by one single entity, which allow them to efficiently exploit every issue whether against Aoun, HA, or anyone else for that matter, the opposition is failing to react an equivalently efficient and coordinated manner that deflates the Loyalists’ plans and schemes.
When you are in a weak-message position it is hard for you to take control of the media situation. FPM is exposed by its actions and political positions. If it seems that often you are defending the indefensible, it is because that is precisely what you are doing.
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yes it is FPM's failure that the new king appointed prime minister cannot form a govt. he is busy travelling.

Yes it is an FPM failure for the backstabbing inside March 14 and the failure of that movt.

Yes it is a FPM failure that the opposition is still strong and united.

There are some organisational changes and reforms to be made inside FPM, but i wouldnt go to the extreme ...
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I have to say Something it is stuck in my mind since i ever knew FPM.

Since FPM was established,
And people are Speaking about signs of Failure.
These signs of failure only exist in Our minds, FPM has been like this since 1989, and it will stay like this.
We are a movement, people come, people go.
FPM will never end its a way of thinking a life style.
Maybe the political action will weakness after sometime, but the revolution will always exist.

اذا الشعب اراد الحياة فلا بد ان يستجيب القدر
و لا بد لليل أن ينجلي و لا بد للقيد أن ينكسر
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As long as the Americans are directing their media and the Saudis financing it, dont
ever think that you will surpass them in the media sector. you arent facing Dori chamaoun
and fatfat, big countries are behind these people.

GMA's survival during the elections was a miracle itself. Im not really disappointed anymore
with the elections outcome, look at them, they have the majority and they cant form a
government that Aoun doesnt like. They are stupid by giving us more poltical effect on
the expense of their chrisitan 3ijil worshippers.
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I have to say Something it is stuck in my mind since i ever knew FPM.

Since FPM was established,
And people are Speaking about signs of Failure.
These signs of failure only exist in Our minds, FPM has been like this since 1989, and it will stay like this.
We are a movement, people come, people go.
FPM will never end its a way of thinking a life style.
Maybe the political action will weakness after sometime, but the revolution will always exist.

اذا الشعب اراد الحياة فلا بد ان يستجيب القدر
و لا بد لليل أن ينجلي و لا بد للقيد أن ينكسر
FPM popularity is based on two important things:
1-the 1989 aoun version - national hero - liberator
2-anti-geageaist (and not anti-LFer who are way fewer)

all other ideals that FPMers try to promote are PURE NONESENSE for the lebanese people - for example you promote secularism and you ally yoursslef with a middle age GOD's party....
Christians are majority conservative and LFers by nature
and SF saying that if geagea resigns LF would sweep the christian street is VERY TRUE
the problem is not the LF itself it's geagea as head of the LF
FPM failure is unavoidable especially that it seems that nothing changed after the disaster 2009 results.
in 2005 GMA reached this LF vain in the christian street and FPM catched the christian voice.
2005 will never come back if the blind HA eye continues or more touristic visits to syria occur.
the best hope for FPM is to transform into a lebanese CDU center - right moderate party. leftist or secular ideas will lead to total failure in lebanon.
cheers
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As long as the Americans are directing their media and the Saudis financing it, dont
ever think that you will surpass them in the media sector. you arent facing Dori chamaoun
and fatfat, big countries are behind these people.

GMA's survival during the elections was a miracle itself. Im not really disappointed anymore
with the elections outcome, look at them, they have the majority and they cant form a
government that Aoun doesnt like. They are stupid by giving us more poltical effect on
the expense of their chrisitan 3ijil worshippers.
You reminded me what dory chamoun said yesterday:
ni7na el aktariyeh w badna nshakel le7koumeh libadna yeha w yalli mish 3ejbo ydabber raso.
ba3ed fi dory ma 3antar 3alaina.
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FPM popularity is based on two important things:
1-the 1989 aoun version - national hero - liberator
2-anti-geageaist (and not anti-LFer who are way fewer)

all other ideals that FPMers try to promote are PURE NONESENSE for the lebanese people - for example you promote secularism and you ally yoursslef with a middle age GOD's party....
Christians are majority conservative and LFers by nature
and SF saying that if geagea resigns LF would sweep the christian street is VERY TRUE
the problem is not the LF itself it's geagea as head of the LF
FPM failure is unavoidable especially that it seems that nothing changed after the disaster 2009 results.
in 2005 GMA reached this LF vain in the christian street and FPM catched the christian voice.
2005 will never come back if the blind HA eye continues or more touristic visits to syria occur.
the best hope for FPM is to transform into a lebanese CDU center - right moderate party. leftist or secular ideas will lead to total failure in lebanon.
cheers
What FPM is trying to do is to protect the Stupid Middle Age Lebanese thinking from repeating the same mistake again and again, dude.
The main reason FPM went for the MOU is to prevent the same situation that was present in 1975.
If the Lebanese people cant understand this, well let them burn in hell.

When this fear agaisnt HA and its weapons stops and everybody will be holding them, the party will demolish logically cuz the fear stop existing, and this reaction of protecting the shiaa existence in Lebanon will not exist anymore.
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FPM popularity is based on two important things:
1-the 1989 aoun version - national hero - liberator
2-anti-geageaist (and not anti-LFer who are way fewer)

all other ideals that FPMers try to promote are PURE NONESENSE for the lebanese people - for example you promote secularism and you ally yoursslef with a middle age GOD's party....
Christians are majority conservative and LFers by nature
and SF saying that if geagea resigns LF would sweep the christian street is VERY TRUE
the problem is not the LF itself it's geagea as head of the LF
FPM failure is unavoidable especially that it seems that nothing changed after the disaster 2009 results.
in 2005 GMA reached this LF vain in the christian street and FPM catched the christian voice.
2005 will never come back if the blind HA eye continues or more touristic visits to syria occur.
the best hope for FPM is to transform into a lebanese CDU center - right moderate party. leftist or secular ideas will lead to total failure in lebanon.
cheers
our political choices won and thats what really matters in politics. Jumblat
won the elections with the majority and still shifted 180 degrees. Geagea
has been silent for 20 days and very weak politically.He will never be able
to penetrate the christian street because he once launched a war once against
the holy institution in the chrisitan's eyes, the lebanese army, aside the fact
that the christians will never forgive him for the way he treated them and
the toxic wastes he dumped in their areas. 48% is the biggest percentage
they could take off aoun, and that percentage includes Kataeb, Murr, bon,
Khazen, Batrak, LF,a7rar etc...

Hariri cant form a government without Aoun's demands for christian partnership with the
support of HA. As I said before, Bachir burried the 1943 national pact and Aoun has guards all over it now.
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While I agree that FPM has lots of weaknesses and made lots of mistakes in the last 4 years, especially during the pre-elections campaign, I find it so unfair that we have to be judged by standards we set, while the others can get away with anything!

I acknowledge FPM's mistakes and weaknesses, but I know that it is far better than any other party in Lebanon!
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