FPM:Secular,Non-Secular!

[Aroma]

When first launched,FPM declared itself as a secular party.

Indeed,there was hope scattering in the atmosphere that a new,popular,party might finally change something in our sectarian environment.

However,FPM's experience has failed up until now,in my humble opinion,to set-up what it previously declared as one of its goals:working for a secular civil society.
Not only that,but it failed big time to implement this belief thru its performance...As a matter of fact,performance of FPM's officials has turned to be sectarian like never before-Proof:just watch an interview with an FPM official on tv or read one on any local newspaper.

Question:How do you rate FPM's "secular" behavior?

Why did it fail to deliever this ultimate goal?

Should FPM stop claiming secularism,abstract this goal from its announced beliefs,and finally declare itself as another christian party?or what should be done in your opinion?

MODS,can we add a poll here?

Should FPM finally declare itself as a christian party?
Yes
No
Other,Specify.

thank you.
naty.

[BOILER]

Originally Posted by naty

Why did it fail to deliever this ultimate goal?

Cause the lebanese mentality is not ready for this.
When people voted in 2005 for FPM, we thought they are aiming for a secular country, for a secular party to rule.
It's obvious that the purpose behind it was to reclaim the christian rights.
Believe me, the responsibility lies on the other parties who are pushing the christians to act and think this way.

[Kakou]

As for me, I don't see that the FPM failed... Because, NOTHING is reformed yet in the country...

Concerning the statements and the interviews, they don't show sectarism... FPM is here FOR ANY COMMUNITY FACING PROBLEMS... and now christians are attacked in many ways... Christians have voted for the RCB, what obliges that bloc, more than any other, to talk for them...
So, there are two main reasons (to not talk about everything) that forces the orange responsibles to act that way!! When each community is represented by a leader in a country like Lebanon, we cannot ask ONLY from the ELECTED representants of Christians to be secular...
FPM is working for a secular state, but since the Christians are marginalized (don't know if it could be said in eng) that much, it SHOULD be their spokeman...

[Aroma]

Originally Posted by BOILER

Cause the lebanese mentality is not ready for this.

now there is something here that I don't understand.
What do you mean by "lebanese mentality is not ready for this"?
thank you.

[blastercbi]

Originally Posted by naty

now there is something here that I don't understand.
What do you mean by "lebanese mentality is not ready for this"?
thank you.

I guess you can ask yourself this question. What happens if you wake up tomorrow to a secular system in Lebanon? Would people stop voting based on sects. Is for example a Sunni or Christian ready to vote for a Chia to be president based on merit rather than religion ? I doubt it. Even though, in my opinion, the goal of the FPM leaders is still moving towards a secular system, it has to achieve it in small steps. First it has to have enough political power to even start pushing its agenda forward. And unfortunately, the only way to gain power in a sectarian state it to play by its rules. When all other parties are using religion to get more power in a sectarianly (not sure if this word exist) polarized country, you have to play by those rules or else you would be excluded from the game. The hardest task for the FPM is to create reforms to ease the transition from sectarianism to secularism in people minds. Achieving "Trust" among all Lebanese has to be on top of the list. Having one national identity for Lebanon would soon follow.

[ecce homo]

Originally Posted by naty

When first launched,FPM declared itself as a secular party.

Indeed,there was hope scattering in the atmosphere that a new,popular,party might finally change something in our sectarian environment.

However,FPM's experience has failed up until now,in my humble opinion,to set-up what it previously declared as one of its goals:working for a secular civil society.
Not only that,but it failed big time to implement this belief thru its performance...As a matter of fact,performance of FPM's officials has turned to be sectarian like never before-Proof:just watch an interview with an FPM official on tv or read one on any local newspaper.

Question:How do you rate FPM's "secular" behavior?

Why did it fail to deliever this ultimate goal?

Should FPM stop claiming secularism,abstract this goal from its announced beliefs,and finally declare itself as another christian party?or what should be done in your opinion?

MODS,can we add a poll here?

Should FPM finally declare itself as a christian party?
Yes
No
Other,Specify.

thank you.
naty.

Did you miss this article? Because GMA already answered your question.

M.Aoun: Un projet de société : « Vivre ensemble »

[hannaalsayssa]

non secular but as much as possible in a country based on secular quotas.
and most supporters are christinas,hence the need in many instances to be airing their worries.

[SeekNirvana]

Originally Posted by naty

Question:How do you rate FPM's "secular" behavior?

Below par, and that's an understatement.

Why did it fail to deliever this ultimate goal?

It looks like it decided to go for more "political" leverage at the expense of some ideas.

Should FPM stop claiming secularism

Should FPM finally declare itself as a christian party?

I think the problem is that the issue is no longer at the fact that the political discourse is nonsecular. It's even sectarian. Either stop claiming secularism and declare itself a Christian party, or start acting according to what a secular reformist party in a corrupt system would do. Consistency is the bottom line.

[Ignatius]

Secularism is a strategic positionning not a tactical one, so it cannot be implemented in 3 years, maybe not even 30 years
Opening the christian street (its initial playground) to the shiite street is a step towards secularism cos it allows ppl to talk and know each other, maybe someday they wi be able to vote for someone, not because of his sect, but because of his ideas
Moses spent 40 years in the desert as per the Lebanese ppl, they haven't left Egypt yet :-) that was a very secular intermed :-)

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by ecce homo

Did you miss this article? Because GMA already answered your question.

M.Aoun: Un projet de société : « Vivre ensemble »

Let's hear it from the supporters