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I suppose that LF members will return the same arguments by permuting we/them.
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not at all im totally against the idea in my opinioon people like ga3ga3 and ga3ga3iye should be marginalized more and more and more till this virus is cured or dead
the only way we can do that is by doing a rapprochement with Kataeb. LF will be cornered in becharee if that happens. i hope sami el gemayel is aware of this.
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the only way we can do that is by doing a rapprochement with Kataeb. LF will be cornered in becharee if that happens. i hope sami el gemayel is aware of this.
check what i wrote about SF-sami meeting.

sg will resort to killing if cornered.
sami is in grave danger.

PS.personally i do not like sami nor his dad, bass achtaff bzoumm men sg, and i can live with a rapprochment with them if GENERAL sees it beneficial.
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check what i wrote about SF-sami meeting.

sg will resort to killing if cornered.
sami is in grave danger.

PS.personally i do not like sami nor his dad, bass achtaff bzoumm men sg, and i can live with a rapprochment with them if GENERAL sees it beneficial.
Im pretty sure that sami el gemayel is very much in danger, indeed. just like his brother, something might happen to him, and worst of all, FPM will be blamed for it (like usual). I advise SAMI (if he still looks at this forum) to be very careful. especially from the LF.

w I Don't like him a lot either, nor his dad, or even the kataeb as a whole. But we've managed to do a MOU with HA, which is even more distant to FPM than Kataeb. so i guess it would b best to try to reconcile with them.
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Im pretty sure that sami el gemayel is very much in danger, indeed. just like his brother, something might happen to him, and worst of all, FPM will be blamed for it (like usual). I advise SAMI (if he still looks at this forum) to be very careful. especially from the LF.

w I Don't like him a lot either, nor his dad, or even the kataeb as a whole. But we've managed to do a MOU with HA, which is even more distant to FPM than Kataeb. so i guess it would b best to try to reconcile with them.
It seems that nowadays all Christians are in danger exept Geagea.
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It seems that nowadays all Christians are in danger exept Geagea.
That's true because Geagea is the origin of this danger
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I wonder what are you guys expressing or maintaining here when the Lebanese see each other as cancer, then you will see this opponent as an organ which must be mutilated, then comes the civil war, and no one mutilates the other because the LFers are here to stay, same as FPM! You tried the elgha war, it didn't work, instead of keeping the same mentality, why don't you try to think about sth else?! Democracy for example is better than living in a morgue!!
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I think that any rapprochement with fascists will ultimately make them stronger and more radical, thus, more dangerous to our society.

Rapprochement gives the fascists legitimacy, while they should be sidelined and openly marginalized, no matter the size of their representation or popular base.

A virus that is not cured...proliferates. There is no third option here.
Pretty much a fascist perspective, while you're accusing them of being so!! Only a fascist sees that there is no third option, the main two Christian parties need to reconcile to recover from the past enmities, as HA and Amal did, while you're pouring gas on fire, do you want to see them fighting each other?!

A fascist mentality dismisses any legitimacy of the opponents even if they have a popular base and representation, a fascist mentality sees the opponent as a virus, and what do we do with a virus?! We kill it, do you want them to kill each other?!
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Pretty much a fascist perspective, while you're accusing them of being so!! Only a fascist sees that there is no third option, the main two Christian parties need to reconcile to recover from the past enmities, as HA and Amal did, while you're pouring gas on fire, do you want to see them fighting each other?!

A fascist mentality dismisses any legitimacy of the opponents even if they have a popular base and representation, a fascist mentality sees the opponent as a virus, and what do we do with a virus?! We kill it, do you want them to kill each other?!
ghareeb ma3koun walla

ma 7adda beddou rapproach ma3 sg ...not today not in a million years.
call us what you want.

if this maens the end of christians in lebanon so be it.

in the arab mythology there was this great horse called rei7, one of the best ever.

one day she just took off and ran away, so the owner's friend who had a mule ( baghel) called ( blei2), told the owner :"use my mule and go and retrieve her".
to that the onwer replied.

تهفا ولا يردها بليق.

i.e if our salvation passes through the likes of sg....no need.

that brings to mind the famous sentence the roumm batrak said when given the choice to join mount lebanon or remain under the ottoma in the late 1890s

التركي ولا بكركي...
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A country's destiny is to be doomed whenever its partisans see each other as enemies.

Thank you!!
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