FPM lost only 5% popularity in the christian street

[Souss]

Originally Posted by Anny

I wanna be one of those women, women are more peaceful than men in general and I would love to see more women controling in the same propotion the governemental like 50%/-50% but that is a dream!

No democracy = no proper representation.

It's not a surprise that there are little or no women in leadership position within FPM.

[freelebanonn]

Originally Posted by Souss

No democracy = no proper representation.

It's not a surprise that there are little or no women in leadership position within FPM.

thats because women does not want to be involved in politics.do u know that gma asked 4 women to join his block they refused for several non politcal reasons? so he ended up with gilberte zuein only!

[Anny]

Originally Posted by Souss

No democracy = no proper representation.

It's not a surprise that there are little or no women in leadership position within FPM.

What about the other camp, where are the women ? Dont blame it on FPM, she didnt win the deputy that we had. I wanna remove my thanx, it was a mistake that I thank you.

[Anny]

Originally Posted by spacecreature

Not the ones that enter politics! Peaceful al ;)

Lets change that image you have ;)

[alabellez]

all of them! plus you peaked! and i think that's the reason of the 5% popularity drop, you peaked (when it comes to popularity and support) in 2005... don't get me wrong, you still held your own against a million things working against you but you might want to reconsider some things: for example there's no vote inside the party! i'd like to see fpm as an example for other lebanese parties, fpm's popular base should be part of the decision making!

I think the main reason behind the popularity drop is propaganda and lies, not so much lies but propaganda (the hezbulla issue blablabla)... I think you should make it really clear to people how our future (as lebanese christians) lies with hezbulla ( I'm doing my part and I'm not even an fpmer :P)...

There's also the batrak issue, and this is getting really old and annoying! It's either he's against the choice of at least half the maronite or he wants to be the only marja3ye! either way, you should pick a position and stick to it, it's either you're with the batrak being a "marja3ye" or you're not! Make it clear to people!!

Plus aoun isn't really charismatic, haha i think that has also played a part in the popularity drop! It's really easy to attack him ! and he gets mad every time !! (I think that's the biggest "defaut" of an honest person!)...

regards

[Ana3arabi!]

Originally Posted by Venom

Wrong analysis!!

1- The expats are Lebanese and that's not an excuse
2-Why we didn't get a lot of expats? shoo na2esna? money? BS
3-Zouxi u have to base ur % on the total voters and u will notice that although we won more MPs than 2005 (2 bel tazkeeyeh and 1 granted by Jumblat) but the support declined a lot....
4-We don't represent the Christians (we have 2 Druze MPs in our bloc and 1 Shiaa), let's remember that!

1- The expats are Lebanese and that's not an excuse

It's not the issue of whether expats are lebanese or not, it's an issue of which expats were brought to vote. you say ma na2esna money, compared to Hariri's money ($1 billion coming from saudiye), what we have is nothing. this is why expats must have the right to vote or there must be regulations to prevent such a phenomenon again, whoever does it. it is not fair play, it is a way of cheating.

[Greg Davis]

30 percent of voting expats were imported by the opposition. Therefore the intension of the opposition is no difference to the majority, just that they couldn't get the numbers to tip the balance. Are you aware of a single expat opposition supporter who was willing to travel to lebanon to vote and wasn't offered the means to do so?

Please don't insult peoples' intelligence, rights, and above all, identity.

On a side note, while the worlds largest economies and most popular tourist destination are experiencing an enormous downturn in tourism revenues, and tourist numbers, Lebanon will have its best year ever. This is the unintended stimulas package lebanon needs in this global recession.

[Ataraxia]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

30 percent of voting expats were imported by the opposition. Therefore the intension of the opposition is no difference to the majority, just that they couldn't get the numbers to tip the balance. Are you aware of a single expat opposition supporter who was willing to travel to lebanon to vote and wasn't offered the means to do so?

Please don't insult peoples' intelligence, rights, and above all, identity.

On a side note, while the worlds largest economies and most popular tourist destination are experiencing an enormous downturn in tourism revenues, and tourist numbers, Lebanon will have its best year ever. This is the unintended stimulas package lebanon needs in this global recession.

First it's 24%
We're not really talking about intention. Both coalitions tried to get expats. However, the opposition was the one sure of victory according to almost all statistics. It clearly was just trying to level the expats vote. Moreover, most of those who came to vote for the opposition came on their own expense, and there was for sure no coordination on an international level to get specific voters in specific numbers. I mean eventually, we ended up being no where near the number that the loyalists brought. Money is not on our side and it shouldn't be a factor that decides who wins and who loses.

[BEAST]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

30 percent of voting expats were imported by the opposition. Therefore the intension of the opposition is no difference to the majority, just that they couldn't get the numbers to tip the balance. Are you aware of a single expat opposition supporter who was willing to travel to lebanon to vote and wasn't offered the means to do so?

Please don't insult peoples' intelligence, rights, and above all, identity.

On a side note, while the worlds largest economies and most popular tourist destination are experiencing an enormous downturn in tourism revenues, and tourist numbers, Lebanon will have its best year ever. This is the unintended stimulas package lebanon needs in this global recession.

my brother and 3 of my friends...each of them paid 700 for his ticket...i know you're not used to such behavior, but that's what loyal people do :)

[CitizenOfTheRepublic]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

30 percent of voting expats were imported by the opposition. Therefore the intension of the opposition is no difference to the majority, just that they couldn't get the numbers to tip the balance. Are you aware of a single expat opposition supporter who was willing to travel to lebanon to vote and wasn't offered the means to do so?

Yours truly... I asked for help to travel and was denied.
Whereas my cousin who is a staunch F14 supporter, was offered a nice little package.
Unfortunately, my political inclination is too obvious to fool the F14 into giving me a ticket.

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

Please don't insult peoples' intelligence, rights, and above all, identity.

Speaking of rights my fellow Lebanese emigrant, is there a pre-condition on the people's right to vote, that one must be able to either vote for wealthy person, or have himself the funds required for a trip to Lebanon? Is that right equal for all? Or do some people have rights more equal than others?

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

On a side note, while the worlds largest economies and most popular tourist destination are experiencing an enormous downturn in tourism revenues, and tourist numbers, Lebanon will have its best year ever. This is the unintended stimulas package lebanon needs in this global recession.

Hariri's money could have been spent in productive sectors.
Throwing money on an economy grows it temporarily only for it to deflate later.
Fixing an economy grows it permanently where it won't be the hostage of that tempting capital.