FPM elections

[GMA forever]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

some flaws? Can you name the flaws please? To me it looks like a disaster.

Now disaster is a little bit over the edge my friend. We belong to the Lebanese society, we are not swiss or austrian people living by the book in their own country. There are flaws everywhere and in all the Lebanese parties, god knows that in FPM we have much less flaws than most other parties in lebanon.

Now please be fair, and give FPM the time it needs to amend those flaws.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

some flaws? Can you name the flaws please? To me it looks like a disaster.

It's just the part related to forming the lists of Central committee

[shadow1]

When I hear or read of the FPM election, two things come to my mind immediately: The story of the boy who cried wolf and the better one حكاية بريق الزيت. I am not so sure which is the more applicable.

On the surface though a talk of any type of election is always healthy; it gets the blood of a Lebanese automaton running hot. Good for bcirculation and it prevents clotting and give the people a deep sense of usefulness.

[Rising Phoenix]

Originally Posted by John A

FPM is going to have internal elections soon. The Central Committee is going to amend the party's Internal Law to remove some flaws.

What central committee??? Who is the central committee?? It doesn't exist since a veeery long time ago my friend...enough with these "sleeping pills"

Also you cannot change the Internal law by "cha7tet kalam" nore by a meeting of the so-called central committee...it has to be done by general session of the "lejneh te2ssissiyeh"!

[dodzi]

What's funny is that, contrarily to most political parties in the world, you hear less call for internal elections from party affiliates than from outsiders to the party!

Typically Lebanese!!


Now don't get me wrong, I do prefer if there were elections, but having studied political science and having followed a course on theories surrounding political parties, etc., I can assure you that elections are not essential... And in this Lebanese context, the only thing that will change, is that journalists and other parties will stop asking about FPM's internal elections and they will move on to another issue (just like they moved from Syria's interference to HA's arms to Bassil's ministry)!

[TayyarBeino]

[b] قطاع الشباب في التيّار

من المتوقع أن يتنحّى مسؤول لجنة الشباب والشؤون الطالبية في التيار الوطني الحرّ، فادي حنّا، عن منصبه في سياق برنامج عمل هدفه تفعيل دور الشباب والطلاب مع انطلاق العام الدراسي المقبل.




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[The Jade]

Originally Posted by TayyarBeino

[b] قطاع الشباب في التيّار

من المتوقع أن يتنحّى مسؤول لجنة الشباب والشؤون الطالبية في التيار الوطني الحرّ، فادي حنّا، عن منصبه في سياق برنامج عمل هدفه تفعيل دور الشباب والطلاب مع انطلاق العام الدراسي المقبل.




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mmm,
is this really news ?
Heard the guy wanted to leave for sometime especially after the elections and the way the higher leadership was treating the supporters and volunteers.

Aren't these people appointed ? The student representatives ?
Why would they be ?

What do they do exactly ?
Do the elected student bodies in the university answer to them ?
If not, what's their role ?

If so, then how students elect these people when they know that their voices will be hijacked by someone else ?

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by dodzi

What's funny is that, contrarily to most political parties in the world, you hear less call for internal elections from party affiliates than from outsiders to the party!

Typically Lebanese!!


Now don't get me wrong, I do prefer if there were elections, but having studied political science and having followed a course on theories surrounding political parties, etc., I can assure you that elections are not essential... And in this Lebanese context, the only thing that will change, is that journalists and other parties will stop asking about FPM's internal elections and they will move on to another issue (just like they moved from Syria's interference to HA's arms to Bassil's ministry)!

Party elections are essential in the sense that the people making the decisions will have to think about the fall back of every call they make.

Now if one of they screws up, what happens ?
Can you kick him out ? Who can do that other than Michel Aoun ?

It took him 4 years to realize that Tony Nasrallah is really really bad at the communications department. And that's a key department in any party or movement.

How long would it take the guy to realize that there are other bad apples in the party ?

If you had a structure with elections, a guy would have to do anything withing his power to stay in that position, he would have to surpass himself.
Unfortunately now people are at their positions, strolling around with bodyguards, knowing that Michel Aoun doesn't have time for everything and that if they ***** up there won't be anyone ta yi7asseboun.

So my friend(s) (I added the S especially for the ones who thanked him), elections are extremely important because you'll have to go back to your electors and explain to them why you did this or that.

Then they'll judge if what you did was a good or bad thing and they'll decide if you're fit enough to come back to your position or even elect you to another position.

[joseph_lubnan]

You do not need elections, because this FPM is more of a tribe than a party. You should google a tribal handbook and follow it instead. Stop setting your expectations where they shouldn't be, this only leads to disappointment. Everyone has had enough disappointments from FPM and GMA. You should do yourselves a favor and accept FPM as no more than a regular Lebanese "party" like the rest of them. No more, no less.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

You do not need elections, because this FPM is more of a tribe than a party. You should google a tribal handbook and follow it instead. Stop setting your expectations where they shouldn't be, this only leads to disappointment. Everyone has had enough disappointments from FPM and GMA. You should do yourselves a favor and accept FPM as no more than a regular Lebanese "party" like the rest of them. No more, no less.

Joseph, the FPM is becoming indeed a tribe.
Now people will accuse me of being brainwashed by the loyalist media, but I wouldn't care. The brainwashed are the people who would defend their leader every time he screws up.

In the meantime, I still believe that the FPM is the lesser of evils in the country and if there is any hope it passes by it.