FM has more support amongst Christian loyalists, than LF and Kataeb

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Observer

I do not know how hard are you will keep trying on changing history. I have never seen people who blatantly try to change history more than FM. I mean the very first and most outrageous claim of FM in which they try to belie and change history is the claim that Rafik Hariri was against Syrians. But I have never heard this claim of yours. FM was on 1979??????????? What the heck are you talking about.?

1979 is when Rafic Hariri started his philanthropic activities and strarted giving aid to all lebanese regardless of sect and political thought

[Zghertewe]

Originally Posted by FBM

1979 is when Rafic Hariri started his philanthropic activities and strarted giving aid to all lebanese regardless of sect and political thought

What a benevolent person he was. How much was he earning in return?

[Venom]

Originally Posted by FBM

1979 is when Rafic Hariri started his philanthropic activities and strarted giving aid to all lebanese regardless of sect and political thought

at that time everyone new him as Saudi....ma khaso bshee esmo Lebanon

YouTube - Rafiq Hariri (Saudi Or what)

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by FBM

1979 is when Rafic Hariri started his philanthropic activities and strarted giving aid to all lebanese regardless of sect and political thought

Does that include the different militias

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

Joseph

Sorry to burst your bubble, you might want to see Judith Palmer Harik, "Between Islam and the System: Popular Support for Lebanon's Hizballah," The Journal of Conflict Resolution ( Vol. 40, No. 1), March 1996, p.52.

Cheers

I think there was something lost in translation here. Perhaps you misunderstood my post, or I didn't understand this reply. Why did you mention this 1996 article?

[Red Phoenix]

joseph, are u back to singing that lullaby about fpm being a shia toy or something ?

hehe

[Ataraxia]

It's a false claim in my opinion. I see however, a certain perspective in that claim. FM, ever since the death of PM Hariri had gained a lot of sympathy from all sects and the whole 14 March supporters. So this whole wahhabist extremist side of Hariri's FM was overshadowed by that tragic event which portrayed FM as a victim. Therefore, It was kind of "convenient" for some Christians ( although few) who are not fond of Kataeb and LF yet want to join the trend to adhere to a party to lean towards FM. However, I feel most of that was limited to mere sympathy and practically in general Christians did not go a step further into pledging full support to the Future Movement. So FM gained Christian sympathy but not on the expense of LF and Kataeb. That and the sympathy did not translate to a christian base.

[Addoun Kelloun]

Originally Posted by ElieCedar

There is nothing wrong with Christians supporting a moderate Muslim oriented party. It shows that the FM is open to non-muslims. Hariri always had high profile Christians as advisors (specially on the financial side). I prefer to see Christians in FM rather than in SSNP, not to mention other parties :-)

But your statement above is an over simplification of the election process, and is misleading (being polite here). "Most" of the Christians on FM list or PSP list or HA/AMAL list are not elected by Christian constituents, but rather by an overwhelming Muslim voter blocks.

If we had a law where Christians can only elect Christians and similarly onthe Muslim side, then the LF/Kateab duo will get the Lion share of the Christian vote.Elie

Yes indeed the CHRISTIANS in Ashrafieh got a sample and a show of the behaviour of the supporters of such a "moderate muslim oriented party" in Feb 2006 and trust me they have not forgotten


On the "Lion Share of Christian votes" yes you are right the majority of the christians figured out a long time ago that you are and you do get "7oset el Assad"

AK

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

joseph, are u back to singing that lullaby about fpm being a shia toy or something ?

hehe

No need to sing a lullaby for FPM. It is already in deep sleep.

hehe

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

Perhaps FPM today has more support in the Shiite community than it has in the Christian community. In 2004 it had a net zero support in this community, but through persistent principles and never flipfloping on sovereignty issues, or armament outside the context of the state, FPM succeeded in attracting an unprecedented almost complete support from the Shiite community. This is what I call reaching to all Lebanese, and across the boundaries of sects, by capitulating all the way. All political Lebanese entities are made of the same rotting fiber.

Indeed...A Party needs to be made of the worst rotting fiber to get the support of the Shiite community.There is no other way to do it.