FM buying People: The Metn Saga

[Rising Force]

After Batroun and Jbeil and previously buying people in the North with tanket zet and 100 usd...Hariri gang decided to try that in Metn.....I say let the people take what is offered and vote against Hariri (represented with Gemayelists and Geageaists)....

مع إقتراب الإنتخابات النيابية بدأ على ما يبدو ضخّ اموال البترو دولار في بعض المناطق من بينها المتن، وذلك تحت إسم "مساعدات الشهيد رفيق الحريري"

tayyar.org

[Ra3ed]

حبيتك بالصيف ونسيتك بالشتي

[Dry Ice]

Instead of a one-liner, tayyar "reporters" should tackle such important issues by writing a full article with names and references like 1) Who paid, 2) The amounts, 3) Those who got paid, etc...

Why put yourself in a backfiring position?

[The Brain]

Mish ma3oul gamé3it el aktariyyé chou khéyfin 3ala héloun balachou min halaa bel dafé3, eh mahada bya3rif chou béssyr min halaa till next year

[Gebrayel]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

1) Who paid,

-the people who have the money to pay
-the people that needs to pay money to get votes
-the people that have been paying money for the last 18 years

as for the name its mentioned: Rafic el Hariri Foundation - as for the direct person distributiong the money, i dint think it is necessary to put the name because that person is simply a tool

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

2) The amounts

the amount is not the problem - it doesnt even have to be money - the simple fact of doing it is the problem

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

3) Those who got paid

to keep it simple: each and every person that voted for FPM or its allies in 2005 and that it is need for money

Anyways,

i encourage people to take money, oil, food, whatever they are given - IT IS THEIR RIGHT - its the money Hariri took from them

take the money and vote freely

take the money but please please please keep ur electoral card with u

[vegojimbo]

The issue might very well be true given Hariri's track record of buying ppl with few bucks and food, but for the sake of tayyar.org's credibility (and for PR purposes as well), let there be more details info. One liners simply don't cut it.


By the way, many times did my family receive aid in the form of a food crate from a Hariri organization, but truce be told nothing was expected in return. Well, the family knows an important figure in FM Achrafieh, so that might have helped. Yet, I have one remark: All the aid from 2006 till now is actually aid destined to the victims of July War (bc the products have labels on them from fellow arab countries saying these items are not for sale).

[Dry Ice]

Gebrayel, I wasn't contending the issue of Hariri clientelism and you haven't answered my comment although you might think you did.

[Addoun Kelloun]

Originally Posted by Rising Force

After Batroun and Jbeil and previously buying people in the North with tanket zet and 100 usd...Hariri gang decided to try that in Metn.....I say let the people take what is offered and vote against Hariri (represented with Gemayelists and Geageaists)....

مع إقتراب الإنتخابات النيابية بدأ على ما يبدو ضخّ اموال البترو دولار في بعض المناطق من بينها المتن، وذلك تحت إسم "مساعدات الشهيد رفيق الحريري"

tayyar.org

What if they take the money and vote for him !! Then what! the problem is "el 3alam tefraneh"

[hannaalsayssa]

only the weak and really destitutes will take and sadly some might sell their votes.
all we can do is talk and warn about it
we are not going to go into a matching round
they did that in 07 when they had a perfect ganging against us and failed
in 09 with sa3doun under many stresses and wello worrying about

جنبلاط على يقين تام ان الدروز يعيشون ‏خطراً ديموغرافياً حقيقياً، خصوصاًَ بعد ان تسلّم احدى الدراسات الاحصائية التي قام بها بعض ‏الجامعيين الدروز وفيها ان عدد طلاب احدى المدارس في حارة حريك يفوق عدد طلاب مدارس عبيه، ‏كفرمتى، عين كسور، البنيه، عيتات والبساتين مجتمعة.

these kinds of statistics
the dhummes can only dream of political change.
when it comes to paying money, couple of issues must be present such as
1-the atmosphere and the closeness of the competition
2-expectations, if people expect that mou3arda are going to win andthat sa3doun is weak, no one will like to bet on a loser.
especailly that they will see the new listet in tripoli and chouf and alieh different than 05.
3-people understand that this is one time payment and they will regret selling their rights to dhoummes, since they understand that they are selling it to sa3doun in reality.
4-alternatives, people might be willing to tarde votes, at least if teh otehr alternative is a bit ok or at par with their first choice.
but come on, between FPM and allies and waraweeer 14shabtt there is no comparison.

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

1) Who paid,

most probably الهيئة العليا للإغاثة
similar to what happened during the July war

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

2) The amounts,

does it matter?

Originally Posted by Dry Ice

3) Those who got paid, etc...

people from maten (like the thread title suggested)