FINAL DESTINATION OF francorp arms shipments?

[ohyeah]

Originally Posted by ius

I apologize, I do not understand what your question is. Could you please repeat it as a full sentence?

The main source of tankers?how did these containers reached Domyat Egypt?which route these containers take to reach Domyat?
Is it known?or not?

[ius]

Originally Posted by ohyeah

The main source of tankers?how did these containers reached Domyat Egypt?which route these containers take to reach Domyat?
Is it known?or not?

This is what is being reported:
Ynet דיווח: ×�רה"ב העבירה ×”"טיפ" לתפיסת הספי×*×” - חדשות

The above is in Hebrew. I will try to find an English version.

[CPE]

Originally Posted by ius

The containers arrived from Iran to Egypt about 10 days ago. They were then loaded into the Francop on their way to Syria. The containers were labeled as bulldozer parts so the Egyptians had no reason to be suspicious. This was indeed an illegal shipment of arms from Iran to Syria. It is illegal in the sense that the Iranians and Syrians lied about what was being transported.

Hezbollah, Iran and Syria disown arms shipment | World news | guardian.co.uk

but as it was obvious in the video.. the arms were hidden by bags!! no bulldozer parts were there!!!
besides,the israelis first said that the shipment contain anti air-craft missiles.. then they said, anti tank missiles .. however, all what appeared in the video were grenades, mortar shells, 122 grad missiles, and maybe 107 mm missiles... in addition to 10,000 bullet!!!
tell me, why would Iran make all this efforts to send these "toys" to Hizballah when they are already manufactured in Syria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the israelis are becoming dumber than the arabs !!!:O

[ius]

Originally Posted by ohyeah

The main source of tankers?how did these containers reached Domyat Egypt?which route these containers take to reach Domyat?
Is it known?or not?

Here you go:
Report: US informed Israel of arms ship - Israel News, Ynetnews

The article describes the route of the containers from Iran.

[4U2IMI8]

Originally Posted by ius

Here you go:
Report: US informed Israel of arms ship - Israel News, Ynetnews

The article describes the route of the containers from Iran.

Here’s a solid piece of intelligence for you ius, and trust me I’m a highly reliable source.
Since the war of 2006, HA has never resorted to import weapons via sea bound vessels.
Before 2006, we had numerous shipments using container ships and such, but we stopped that practice after the July war. We relied on the much faster and more reliable transport methods such as cargo planes, and trucks (and others I can’t mention here sorry).
You can argue all you want about the intercept, and the media campaign that was ready to be executed even before the so called intercept. You can argue about Iran and Syria lying, and you can argue that the whole west believes you. At the end of the day, the firecrackers supposedly found on that ship were not destined for our use, and the balance shifting weapons are already in place in South Lebanon (south and North of the Litani in clear violation of 1701 mind you).
Lastly, and this may come as a shock to you. We stopped importing weapons completely few months ago, because our warehouses are full, and honestly we have no more room.

[CPE]

Originally Posted by ius

The point that you miss is that the containers arrived in Egypt ON ANOTHER SHIP. Not the Francop. The containers were loaded on the Francop in Egypt. Israel was tracking the containers.

And the Egyptions didnt do anything abt it ?!!LOL .. u are saying that the weapons were loaded from a ship who came from iran and was supposed to b etransported to either syria and lebanon and the egyptions suspected nothing?!!! hahahaha u are cuteeeeeee

[ius]

Originally Posted by CPE

but as it was obvious in the video.. the arms were hidden by bags!! no bulldozer parts were there!!!
besides,the israelis first said that the shipment contain anti air-craft missiles.. then they said, anti tank missiles .. however, all what appeared in the video were grenades, mortar shells, 122 grad missiles, and maybe 107 mm missiles... in addition to 10,000 bullet!!!
tell me, why would Iran make all this efforts to send these "toys" to Hizballah when they are already manufactured in Syria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the israelis are becoming dumber than the arabs !!!:O

Of course there were no bulldozer parts. Why would there be? Just because the Iranians wrote there would be???

When did the IDF officially say what you claim? Show me the article. And if it is an Israeli fabrication, why didn't Israel put more sophisticated weapons? Which brings you to the simple conclusion that Israel just displayed truthfully whatever was in the containers.

Syria has problems importing the necessary components to manufacture many of these things. There are severe sanctions on Syria.

[ius]

Originally Posted by CPE

And the Egyptions didnt do anything abt it ?!!LOL .. u are saying that the weapons were loaded from a ship who came from iran and was supposed to b etransported to either syria and lebanon and the egyptions suspected nothing?!!! hahahaha u are cuteeeeeee

Iran exports plenty of stuff to Syria via Egypt. Why would the Egyptians be suspicious?

[Julito]

Originally Posted by ius

There are severe sanctions on Syria.

does Russia ring a bell?....

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by ius

Just stop and think for ONE moment. Put your emotions aside. How do you ship something from Iran to ANY Mediterranean port? Through the Suez Canal. The stuff has to go through Egyptian inspection anyway, as any cargo going through the canal does.

The Iranians are not dumb to send the weapons through Egypt. They would be dumb to send it any other way. The shipment would have generated extra suspicion if the Iranians would have insisted it NOT go through the Canal, but around the horn of Africa which makes the shipment many times more expensive.

The Egyptians are not dumb either. They cannot check all containers. So many containers pass through the Suez Canal that an arms container that is marked as something else has a good chance of going through. Not only that, if you opened the containers you would see polyethylene bags (see the pictures). You would need to actually remove the load to discover the arms.

Still that doesn't negate the fact that the Iranians are not as dumb to have those containers switched in Egypt. They can easily have them switched in Yemen, Djibouti... before they even hit the Suez canal.

The fact that they were loaded in Egypt makes me skeptical about the whole scenario.

Add to the fact that factions such as FEI have to get their weapons from somewhere, it is not far fetched that such weaponry could be destined to one of those factions rather than HA.

Disclaimer: I have not denied the fact that HA are acquiring weapons, we are just debating whether this shipment was intended to HA.