FINAL DESTINATION OF francorp arms shipments? - Page 5 - The Orange Room

ius

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Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

as ohyeah just mentioned, would Iran send weapons to HA via a hostile territory such as egypt? you would expect the Egyptians to be on super high alert especially after the HA cell that was caught smuggling weapons to Hamas in Gaza. they could have chosen a friendlier country, maybe Lybia for example?

It's either the Iranians are too dumb to send those weapons via Egyptians, or the Egyptians are too dumb to have such a humongous arms shipment pass through its ports unnoticed

Just stop and think for ONE moment. Put your emotions aside. How do you ship something from Iran to ANY Mediterranean port? Through the Suez Canal. The stuff has to go through Egyptian inspection anyway, as any cargo going through the canal does.

The Iranians are not dumb to send the weapons through Egypt. They would be dumb to send it any other way. The shipment would have generated extra suspicion if the Iranians would have insisted it NOT go through the Canal, but around the horn of Africa which makes the shipment many times more expensive.

The Egyptians are not dumb either. They cannot check all containers. So many containers pass through the Suez Canal that an arms container that is marked as something else has a good chance of going through. Not only that, if you opened the containers you would see polyethylene bags (see the pictures). You would need to actually remove the load to discover the arms.

Hye4Lebanon

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Originally Posted by ius

Just stop and think for ONE moment. Put your emotions aside. How do you ship something from Iran to ANY Mediterranean port? Through the Suez Canal. The stuff has to go through Egyptian inspection anyway, as any cargo going through the canal does.

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Regardless if it passed or not, or loaded and/or unloaded. The story that these are destined for Hizballah are baseless...

Read the report and see the pics. 107 mm rockets are not under Hizballah's arsenal. Its for very short range, which defeats its purpose.

Besides, the Syrians are manufacturing their own weapons these days and dont need any of these.

ohyeah

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Originally Posted by ius

Just stop and think for ONE moment. Put your emotions aside. How do you ship something from Iran to ANY Mediterranean port? Through the Suez Canal. The stuff has to go through Egyptian inspection anyway, as any cargo going through the canal does.

The Iranians are not dumb to send the weapons through Egypt. They would be dumb to send it any other way. The shipment would have generated extra suspicion if the Iranians would have insisted it NOT go through the Canal, but around the horn of Africa which makes the shipment many times more expensive.

The Egyptians are not dumb either. They cannot check all containers. So many containers pass through the Suez Canal that an arms container that is marked as something else has a good chance of going through. Not only that, if you opened the containers you would see polyethylene bags (see the pictures). You would need to actually remove the load to discover the arms.

The goods were loaded from Domyat Mr.IUS and that it the problem what is these source of the goods and from where it come?

General-Specific

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Originally Posted by ius

So, initially you claim there was not enough time to unload the weapons, but now it can easily be loaded in 4 hours. The Israeli Navy does not even have a ship that can carry 35 containers, so there must have been another Israeli freighter there. But of course, the crew did not see or report one. Just spin your favorite conspiracy theory and adopt it. Facts and simple logic do not influence you one bit.

i never claimed there was not enough time to unload the weapons. Every navy has a ship that carry 35 containers, doesn't Israel have commercial ships? I mean Lebanon has that, and we're a 3rd world country.

I am not adopting a conspiracy theory, but unlike you, I did not believe Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, I did not believe the US-Iraeli lies, but you always create such incidents.
Just like Hitler did with the Jews, getting proof every year about them being a threat to germans, ur inventing proof against HA.
Yes Israel conspires against arabs and iran because they're enemies.

but anyway, HA gets its huge share of weapons day after day, they are storing more and more rockets, Israel knows that HA does not need ships to get weapons. Everything is transported by land through Syria.

then again, ur an Israeli, that in itself tells a lot

ius

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Originally Posted by Hye4Lebanon

Regardless if it passed or not, or loaded and/or unloaded. The story that these are destined for Hizballah are baseless...

Read the report and see the pics. 107 mm rockets are not under Hizballah's arsenal. Its for very short range, which defeats its purpose.

Besides, the Syrians are manufacturing their own weapons these days and dont need any of these.

The weapons were going to a Syrian port. No one denies that. So the weapons were either going to Syria or through Syria to Hizballah.

99% of the rockets Hizballah fired were short range. In 2006, 1000 rockets were fired at Kiryat Shemona. The longer range Hizballah rockets need launchers that the Israeli airforce can easily take out. The smaller shorter range ones do not.

ohyeah

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Originally Posted by ius

The weapons were going to a Syrian port. No one denies that. So the weapons were either going to Syria or through Syria to Hizballah.

99% of the rockets Hizballah fired were short range. In 2006, 1000 rockets were fired at Kiryat Shemona. The longer range Hizballah rockets need launchers that the Israeli airforce can easily take out. The smaller shorter range ones do not.

Plz mr what the source of tankers?

ius

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Originally Posted by General-Specific

i never claimed there was not enough time to unload the weapons. Every navy has a ship that carry 35 containers, doesn't Israel have commercial ships? I mean Lebanon has that, and we're a 3rd world country.

I am not adopting a conspiracy theory, but unlike you, I did not believe Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, I did not believe the US-Iraeli lies, but you always create such incidents.
Just like Hitler did with the Jews, getting proof every year about them being a threat to germans, ur inventing proof against HA.
Yes Israel conspires against arabs and iran because they're enemies.

but anyway, HA gets its huge share of weapons day after day, they are storing more and more rockets, Israel knows that HA does not need ships to get weapons. Everything is transported by land through Syria.

then again, ur an Israeli, that in itself tells a lot

Again you miss the point. If there was a ship big enough to carry 35 containers, why didn't the crew of the ship report seeing it??? There were only small Israeli Navy boats.

Of course HA gets a lot of weapons from Syria. I am happy you admit it, unlike the Syrians that are lying through their teeth about this. But they also get some weapons through the sea.

And you are a Lebanese, but since I do not generalize about people just based on their nationality, it does not tell me much about you.