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Sounds like a Chuck Norris story imo....

same day the Gallbladder report came out, Israel was able to capture a ship, tow it to Ashdod, empty all 50 tons of weapons put them in full display in a perfectly symetrical fashion, all with labels, Full media campaign and Israeli leaders saying "we captured weapons that were aimed at Israeli cities"

You expect people to buy this crappola?
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The containers arrived from Iran to Egypt about 10 days ago. They were then loaded into the Francop on their way to Syria. The containers were labeled as bulldozer parts so the Egyptians had no reason to be suspicious. This was indeed an illegal shipment of arms from Iran to Syria. It is illegal in the sense that the Iranians and Syrians lied about what was being transported.

Hezbollah, Iran and Syria disown arms shipment | World news | guardian.co.uk
how is this possible if the ship has not been outside the Mediterranean for 6 months? and has never crossesd the Suez.
The Israelis kept the European crew of the ship for 4 hours, enough time to get some rockets in and fake things.

Don't worry, we're used to governments faking evidence.
Such as the pictures george bush had of Iraqi Mobile Nuclear facilities, and the Truck in South Lebanon that Israel showed a video of, and claimed it was carrying rockets, but then the UNIFEL gave proof it was vegetables.
Even Hitler claimed he had proof Jews were a threat to Germany just to have something against them.
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there's also much easier ways to transport weapons to HA.
Iran-Kurdish Iraq-Syria-Lebanon.. it's so much easier for them I guess.
and americans in Iraq can't control the borders, coz they keep asking for Syria's help with that. I mean they can't control the mexican borders, let alone Iraq.
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Sounds like a Chuck Norris story imo....

same day the Gallbladder report came out, Israel was able to capture a ship, tow it to Ashdod, empty all 50 tons of weapons put them in full display in a perfectly symetrical fashion, all with labels, Full media campaign and Israeli leaders saying "we captured weapons that were aimed at Israeli cities"

You expect people to buy this crappola?
What was the problem? The ship was only 100 miles from Ashdod and all the weapons were in 35 containers. It doesn't take long to unload and open 35 containers. The Israeli papers described how engineers worked over night to make sure that the cargo was not bobby trapped and then unloaded and sorted the weapons.

The weapons are on display and the press was allowed free access to them. Nobody in the foreign press even said they were not real.
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What was the problem? The ship was only 100 miles from Ashdod and all the weapons were in 35 containers. It doesn't take long to unload and open 35 containers. The Israeli papers described how engineers worked over night to make sure that the cargo was not bobby trapped and then unloaded and sorted the weapons.

The weapons are on display and the press was allowed free access to them. Nobody in the foreign press even said they were not real.
The weapons were definitely not real...

But the story?? :)

Come on dude...seriously
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how is this possible if the ship has not been outside the Mediterranean for 6 months? and has never crossesd the Suez.
The Israelis kept the European crew of the ship for 4 hours, enough time to get some rockets in and fake things.

Don't worry, we're used to governments faking evidence.
Such as the pictures george bush had of Iraqi Mobile Nuclear facilities, and the Truck in South Lebanon that Israel showed a video of, and claimed it was carrying rockets, but then the UNIFEL gave proof it was vegetables.
Even Hitler claimed he had proof Jews were a threat to Germany just to have something against them.
The point that you miss is that the containers arrived in Egypt ON ANOTHER SHIP. Not the Francop. The containers were loaded on the Francop in Egypt. Israel was tracking the containers.
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The weapons were definitely not real...

But the story?? :)

Come on dude...seriously
Seriously, not one serious Western paper doubts the Israeli story and you know that if it were false, the guardian and other papers would be all over it.

The weapons are on display and any reporter can go see them. The weapons are real and so is the story.
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What was the problem? The ship was only 100 miles from Ashdod and all the weapons were in 35 containers. It doesn't take long to unload and open 35 containers. The Israeli papers described how engineers worked over night to make sure that the cargo was not bobby trapped and then unloaded and sorted the weapons.

The weapons are on display and the press was allowed free access to them. Nobody in the foreign press even said they were not real.
and how can u prove the Israelis did not fake this??

to me, and to logical people, this is what is going on:

Israel is in trouble at the UN because of Venograd report...

what way to DISTRACT people from Venograd and the Gaza war crimes (2000 palestinians including 318 children, and 7 military Israelis) than making Israel seem like the victim????

it's not a bad Idea actually...

this is what this is all about, DISTRACTION, and what a huge coincidence, ship is captured days before the UN meetings.
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ius, what's your problem?

So the arms were headed to HA. live with it!!!

The lebanese army are denied basic armaments, equipments as basic as night vision goggles, not to mention tanks, artillery... because of Israel.

I dont mind HA getting weapons then in any way possible.
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Seriously, not one serious Western paper doubts the Israeli story and you know that if it were false, the guardian and other papers would be all over it.

The weapons are on display and any reporter can go see them. The weapons are real and so is the story.
The Foreign Media is saying: Israeli Sources.

Even if you look at the weaponry.

Some in Spanish markings (Like Iran makes them?)
Howitzer shells (Hizballah never uses these)
Old rusted Katyoushas? why Hizballah rely on old rusted material that may not work.
Mines? Why would Hizballah need mines? They are not occupying any land. They prefer anti tank weapons, sophisticated ones.
Whats with the rusted Chinese Sardine cans? and the mortars?

I got a story for you...

We know Israel exports weapons to Latin America - spanish crates
We know Israel may have captured some Katyushas from the early days of 1978 wars up until 2006.

Plus the Chinese replicas, does not take much for Israel to manufacture these.
Not to mention Israel exported millions worth of weapons to Iran in the 80s while it was under sanctions :).
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