Emile Nawfal the Centrist showing what will happen to Lebanon in case you elected them

[Orange Patriot]

Originally Posted by X

Here is a better quality video

i think the significance of nawfal's first sentence isnt understood even by himself.

if there are "more than 200 cars" from FPM moving at any one time then he should get the message and understand that hes losing his campaign.

[General_72]

I couldnt understand how Nawfal himself admit that one of his body guard has gun and shot Army by mistake but never apoligizes. Isnt him and his collegues who are asking for to back the Lebanese army and the medre shou?? :P
on another side, enno w eza ken fi 200 syarra mwajaheen sob beit Emile Nawfal? mech 3ala 3elme enno tor2at maktoube b esmo aw mamnou3 hada yemro2 3alaya... this is an electoral convoi and he can go wherever they wants.. I bet you enno 95% men l mawjoudeen bel connvoi ma bya3refou meen Emile Nawfal kif la ya3rfou weyn bsir beyto.....

Anyway, my friend at work seems to be a 14er March supporter and vote b Ehmej and from Khoury's family.. She wil be voting Farrous just to give a push not to loose with a big big margin.. Ma3 enno bel haref l wahad she said l zalame nezel b2ouwe bass mech chemem riheta lal nyebe... So i answered stay home achraflek :p lol

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Revolution1989

I tought you were standing back and reflecting on how to become a better person?

Anyway, we still have 5 + 1 more days to go. Let's hope the army has a tight grip over the situation and we see no more violence or accidental cellphone/gun firing, etc... I think we can at least agree to that

I am a better person, its quite noticeable isnt it :)

Agree on the second part. No matter what party or candidate you support, everyone should exercice self-control and be a responsible supporter and citizen. This also includes not provoquing others and not reacting to provocation, of course as long as the provocation does not constitute a threat to your life.

It takes twice the courage and responsibility to avoid a fight brought upon you than to involve yourself in one.

Whenever you can and when it is possible leave things for the army, or ISF to handle. It's their job to enforce law and order. Trying to use a gun doesnt help and using you car with the intent to kill doesnt either.

[mafiose13]

Anyways Can we stop talking about this insignificant person and wannabe politician Emile Nawfal. I think we're all giving him too much importance just by talking about him....not to mention having a thread with his name on it

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

I am a better person, its quite noticeable isnt it :)

Agree on the second part. No matter what party or candidate you support, everyone should exercice self-control and be a responsible supporter and citizen. This also includes not provoquing others and not reacting to provocation, of course as long as the provocation does not constitute a threat to your life.

In the context of this specific incident, what do u consider as provocation?

It takes twice the courage and responsibility to avoid a fight brought upon you than to involve yourself in one.

Agreed. However, self-defense is sacred as well. So if one resorts to it, no one has the right to criticize him/her for it.

Whenever you can and when it is possible leave things for the army, or ISF to handle. It's their job to enforce law and order. Trying to use a gun doesnt help and using you car with the intent to kill doesnt either.

In the same line of thought, what is your perception of June 23 2007?

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

#1- In the context of this specific incident, what do u consider as provocation?

#2- Agreed. However, self-defense is sacred as well. So if one resorts to it, no one has the right to criticize him/her for it.

#3-In the same line of thought, what is your perception of June 23 2007?

#1- I can't answer that because i was not there, and i am not a side in the incident. So as an observing citizen I can condem the use of violence. Commend the army men for their courage in difusing the situation without further escalation, wish the injured a seepdy recovery, and when the investigation is concluded and someone is held responsible i hope they get the most severe punishement.

#2- Agreed with your agreed :) but keep in mind that self-defense is circumstancial and subjective and if in the act it results in the death of person u r defending ur self against, u'd better be ready to prove ur case in court. (witnesses and evidence). I hope we agree on that part too.

#3- Not sure what happened on June 23 2007. Are you referring to the Jan 23 2007 protest and its violent results?

[Abotareq93]

#2- Agreed with your agreed :) but keep in mind that self-defense is circumstancial and subjective and if in the act it results in the death of person u r defending ur self against, u'd better be ready to prove ur case in court. (witnesses and evidence). I hope we agree on that part too.

Do you think that you are going to consider all of this when your life is threatened? Survival is more related to instinct than to reasoning.

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Abotareq93

#2- Agreed with your agreed :) but keep in mind that self-defense is circumstancial and subjective and if in the act it results in the death of person u r defending ur self against, u'd better be ready to prove ur case in court. (witnesses and evidence). I hope we agree on that part too.

Do you think that you are going to consider all of this when your life is threatened? Survival is more related to instinct than to reasoning.

Most likely not. Like i said to the person reacting in self-defense (survival instinct) it is circumstantial and subjective....but there are legal ramifications to the act which in the eyes of the law which have to proven in court.

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

#1- I can't answer that because i was not there, and i am not a side in the incident. So as an observing citizen I can condem the use of violence. Commend the army men for their courage in difusing the situation without further escalation, wish the injured a seepdy recovery, and when the investigation is concluded and someone is held responsible i hope they get the most severe punishement.

#2- Agreed with your agreed :) but keep in mind that self-defense is circumstancial and subjective and if in the act it results in the death of person u r defending ur self against, u'd better be ready to prove ur case in court. (witnesses and evidence). I hope we agree on that part too.

#3- Not sure what happened on June 23 2007. Are you referring to the Jan 23 2007 protest and its violent results?

1- I see. so a guy coming down to the streets bearing arms while an FPM convoy is passing by and heading towards an FPM festival is not considered provocation from your part. This is your neutrality I presume.

2- It's not that hard to defend. Your aggressor had a gun and he was in a place where he should not have been in the first place. so that person was there just to stir problems and holding a firearm. Not to mention he actually did fire it. Even the lousiest attorney can easily win this case.

3- Oh yes, when the leader of the party you support (LF) ordered his supporters to come down to the streets to act and do the job of the security forces.

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

1- I see. so a guy coming down to the streets bearing arms while an FPM convoy is passing by and heading towards an FPM festival is not considered provocation from your part. This is your neutrality I presume.

2- It's not that hard to defend. Your aggressor had a gun and he was in a place where he should not have been in the first place. so that person was there just to stir problems and holding a firearm. No to mention he actually did fire it. Even the lousiest attorney can easily win this case.

3- Oh yes, when the leader of the party you support (LF) ordered his supporters to come down to the streets to act and do the job of the security forces.

havent you realized that he is trying to come up with excuses ever since he started posting, and when he cannot find some he tries to mix the assailant and the victim by saying both sides should do this and that.

ya Mafiose

had Emil Nawfal and his thugs not hit the streets, we wouldnt be having this discussion

cheers