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Not every person with a gun has the intent to kill. Maybe he did ...and maybe he didnt...you don't determine that....nor do i
but you are determining that people are spreading rumors when they said that he pulled a gun to do harm, if he hadn't pull his cellphone to harm anyone why did the army men stop him? they could have let him answer his phone and then if his phone killed somebody then after if he hurts someone then his intent would have been clear, but according to what you call logical arguments, if somebody pulls his gun we don't know what his intents are.
Let me guess maybe his intent was to give the gun to Rami so Rami can shoot him? or maybe because it was too heavy to carry he just wanted to put it in the car.
Lek 7aboub i am done with you, i have to pack my bag i am traveling to Lebanon tomorrow, sorry for cutting you short like that but i prefer discussing with people who can use their brains...

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No idea, I can't defend the act or reaction. We are talking about a 65 year old guy here. Not a 20 year youngster la2noul enno m7ammas. Like i said i dont advocate violence. The gun was there...and things happend. To say WE KNOW he intended to kill those two soldiers...is mere speculations, with no official ruling on this matter. So instead of spreading rumors, it's everyone's responsibilty to refrain from aggravating things. Unless you want to turn this incident into a political tool and play the victim role.
the only victims here are the soldiers who tried to take the gun from him (if it is the case) and they got shot and needed blood transfusions...He could have at least mentioned their names without having to admit guilt...honsetly listening to him spill his hatred doesn't inspire confidence at all especially when he is surrounded by people who have guns...
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the only victims here are the soldiers who tried to take the gun from him (if it is the case) and they got shot and needed blood transfusions...He could have at least mentioned their names without having to admit guilt...honsetly listening to him spill his hatred doesn't inspire confidence at all especially when he is surrounded by people who have guns...
They should stop bodyguards from carrying cellphones, this way nothing will ring and they will never draw their gun mistaking it with their phone.
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the only victims here are the soldiers who tried to take the gun from him (if it is the case) and they got shot and needed blood transfusions...He could have at least mentioned their names without having to admit guilt...honsetly listening to him spill his hatred doesn't inspire confidence at all especially when he is surrounded by people who have guns...
That among other very many things is why i am not voting for him
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Lek 7aboub i am done with you, i have to pack my bag i am traveling to Lebanon tomorrow, sorry for cutting you short like that but i prefer discussing with people who can use their brains...

...personal attacks and ridicule is this all you got.

The Army has every right to disarm an armed man in a situation like this regardless of intent...it is their job. This however does not eliminate the fact that a bullet may have went off accidently. Nor does it implicate the guy in a genocidal behavior to eradicate everything wearing orange in front him. Nor does it justify either party's resolution to violence and instiguation that brought about this standoff.
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...personal attacks and ridicule is this all you got.

The Army has every right to disarm an armed man in a situation like this regardless of intent...it is their job. This however does not eliminate the fact that a bullet may have went off accidently. Nor does it implicate the guy in a genocidal behavior to eradicate everything wearing orange in front him. Nor does it justify either party's resolution to violence and instiguation that brought about this standoff.
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Don't try to mix FPM with those thugs. FPM didn't instigate or resort to violence. It was a bunch of brainless thugs that couldn't handle the fact that there are people of opposing views that have the right to organize an electoral event.

Every time you guys (not necessarily u, but the loyalists in general) instigate a fight, you guys come here and try to blame both sides for the fight, when clearly there is assailant and a victim.

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Don't try to mix FPM with those thugs. FPM didn't instigate or resort to violence. It was a bunch of brainless thugs that couldn't handle the fact that there are people of opposing views that have the right to organize an electoral event.

Every time you guys (not necessarily u, but the loyalists in general) instigate a fight, you guys come here and try to blame both sides for the fight, when clearly there is assailant and a victim.

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...personal attacks and ridicule is this all you got.

The Army has every right to disarm an armed man in a situation like this regardless of intent...it is their job. This however does not eliminate the fact that a bullet may have went off accidently. Nor does it implicate the guy in a genocidal behavior to eradicate everything wearing orange in front him. Nor does it justify either party's resolution to violence and instiguation that brought about this standoff.
Again I did not understand how the bullet could have hit 2 of the soldiers, one in his head if I am not mistaken and another in his leg. Obviously the gun was not pointing downwards to hit the soldier in his upper body, whereas the other bullet hit the second soldier in the lower part of his body.
But since you know so much about NCSI techniques maybe you can explain it to me.
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.... Nor does it justify either party's resolution to violence and instiguation that brought about this standoff.
I tought you were standing back and reflecting on how to become a better person?

Anyway, we still have 5 + 1 more days to go. Let's hope the army has a tight grip over the situation and we see no more violence or accidental cellphone/gun firing, etc... I think we can at least agree to that
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