Emile Nawfal the Centrist showing what will happen to Lebanon in case you elected them

[Julito]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

Appolgy = self-condemnation

He should have condemned this incident and the resort to violence by his men as well as the other party involved. He should have said violence is not the answer.


However i believe he said, in his press conference that he will await the results of the invesitgation and that he puts himself and those involved under the rule of law and the military.

See with both eyes not one

Originally Posted by mafiose13

here is a scenario for you to think about:

a man has a gun (and i know for a fact the "accidental shoter" has one, because i personally know him), its on his side and about to reach for it or its already in his hand, someone else is trying to take it out of his hand (army person). How do you take a gun away from another person? both your hand are applied on the firearm forcing it down to the ground (preventing the discharge into the crownd and into ground). As you restle the gun out of this armed person, a bullet gets fired, hurting the grabbing army person hand and since the gun is pointed downwards it also injures the Other army person standing next to him in the leg.

I wasnt there and i didnt see what happened but it is a possible & plausible scenario.

Dude, your scenario is plausible but that doesn't eliminate the fact that the guy had his gun pulled and the two soldiers got shot which should have never happened in the first place. The big question is why did he pull the gun even though the army was on the seen...for fun? to scare people? to kill someone maybe? to defend someone?...the fact that people got injured by someone working for Nawfal warrants an apology...

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

You Oliver Stone you!
You weren't there but you found how to direct the scenario 7adret janeb nawfal wrote. Why don't you make the movie and post it on future TV? Hariri can produce it

Nawfal is not smart enough to think about creating his own scenarios....usually he pays people to write speeches and scenarios for him. The guy can barely speak.

But you asked whether it is a magic bullet.....and i provide a practical, real-world situation where disarming an can result in an accidental discharge of one shot that hurts two people.

You do not need to be a ballistic, forensic or hollywood expert to think of it. Lets be real ....These thing have happened before.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Julito

Dude, your scenario is plausible but that doesn't eliminate the fact that the guy had his gun pulled and the two soldiers got shot which should have never happened in the first place. The big question is why did he pull the gun even though the army was on the seen...for fun? to scare people? to kill someone maybe? to defend someone?...the fact that people got injured by someone working for Nawfal warrants an apology...

He pulled it by mistake accidentally, he thought it was his cellphone. but then when he clicked on answer call, it shot by mistake, if the army soldier had died they would have not charged him with manslaughter but with wrongly identifying his phone.

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Julito

Dude, your scenario is plausible but that doesn't eliminate the fact that the guy had his gun pulled and the two soldiers got shot which should have never happened in the first place. The big question is why did he pull the gun even though the army was on the scene...for fun? to scare people? to kill someone maybe?

No idea, I can't defend the act or reaction. We are talking about a 65 year old guy here. Not a 20 year youngster la2noul enno m7ammas. Like i said i dont advocate violence. The gun was there...and things happend. To say WE KNOW he intended to kill those two soldiers...is mere speculations, with no official ruling on this matter. So instead of spreading rumors, it's everyone's responsibilty to refrain from aggravating things. Unless you want to turn this incident into a political tool and play the victim role.

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

He pulled it by mistake accidentally, he thought it was his cellphone. but then when he clicked on answer call, it shot by mistake, if the army soldier had died they would have not charged him with manslaughter but with wrongly identifying his phone.

Some people use logic in their arguments ....and some others use ridicule tactics to run away from a confrontation.

Rejoice!

[Diabolo_7]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

Some people use logic in their arguments ....and some others use ridicule tactics to run away from a confrontation.

Rejoice!

and some people use double standards as well...

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

No idea, I can't defend the act or reaction. We are talking about a 65 year old guy here. Not a 20 year youngster la2noul enno m7ammas. Like i said i dont advocate violence. The gun was there...and things happend. To say WE KNOW he intended to kill those two soldiers...is mere speculations, with no official ruling on this matter. So instead of spreading rumors, it's everyone's responsibilty to refrain from aggravating things. Unless you want to turn this incident into a political tool and play the victim role.

Originally Posted by mafiose13

Some people use logic in their arguments ....and some others use ridicule tactics to run away from a confrontation.

Rejoice!

Because you are the intelligent using arguments really, maybe he didn't want to kill a soldier but i am trying hard to find a reason why would anybody pull a gun other than trying to kill somebody else or at least threaten to kill somebody, who's spreading rumors? the guy tried to use a gun for God's sake, and now you are here giving us lessons about playing the victims when your friend who owns a gun wanted to create at least a victim with his cellphone.
If I were you I would stop posting, you are just a ridicule of yourself...

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

It is spelled cheering

Was this really necessary? walla this is the only thing fik "tmarrik 3layyeh fi" that makes sense :) However thank you for the correction mate. I am not a perfect human being, and will never claim to be...but i do learn from my mistakes and i will be forever grateful to you.

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by mafiose13

Was this really necessary? walla this is the only thing fik "tmarrik 3layyeh fi" that makes sence :) However thank you for the correction mate. I am not a perfect human being, and will never claim to be...but i do learn from my mistakes and i will be forever gratefull to you.

That's the only thing you saw in my post?
Oh yeah my bad you also saw that i asked a question and you didn't answer.

[mafiose13]

Originally Posted by Danny Z

#1 would anybody pull a gun other than trying to kill somebody else or at least threaten to kill somebody, who's spreading rumors? the guy tried to use a gun for God's sake, and now you are here giving us lessons about playing the victims when

#2- your friend who owns a gun wanted to create at least a victim with his cellphone.

#3- If I were you I would stop posting, you are just a ridicule of yourself...

#1- Not every person with a gun has the intent to kill. Maybe he did ...and maybe he didnt...you don't determine that....nor do i.

#2- He is not my friend, i never said that. Dont twist words in your favor, because ethically although you think you are providing an argument, it reflects badly on you....and this twisting is accumulating

#3- I usually dont do what i am told to do because someone told me to do it. You may be used to this concept but dont try to force it on others...ok mate. I think for myself and follow what i believe in....and i believe i will be contributing my opinion, my logical arguments to this forum within the boundaries of freedom of speech and repect to others