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Bachir a ete tue pour la meme raison que GMA a ete exile et Dany tue et Geagea mis en prison !
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Now that a new president has been elected, and seeing clashes happening on a daily basis, our relations with our neighborly countries are still sour, economy and tourism still limping (despite reservations and number of flights booked for the summer having increased), hatred among the different factions at its peak, bombings still around, no new government, life of the lebanese citizen still below average, emigration on the rise, corruption alive and kicking, accusations and fear mongering still in effect, do u still believe electing a new president would have solved anything? And ultimately which argument turned out to be correct: "the vacancy in the presidency chair is the source of the problems, electing a president will automatically solve most of our issues" or "the vacancy is merely a symptom, electing a president without prior agreement on various subjects will not change anything"?
Sorry vego, I don't want to deceive you more, but li daroura a7kam
Our new president is really busy!
Sorry for this inconvenience.



فوز حصان النائب دي فريج بكأس "فخامة رئيس الجمهورية" في سباق الخيل

وطنية - 29/6/2008

نظمت جمعية "حماية وتحسين نسل الجواد العربي في لبنان" حفل سباق الخيل تضمنت شوط "جائزة فخامة رئيس الجمهورية الكبرى" لعام 2008، في ميدان سباق بارك بيروت، برعاية رئيس الجمهورية العماد ميشال سليمان ممثلا بوزير الدولة للشؤون النيابية ميشال فرعون

حضر الحفل، ممثل رئيس مجلس النواب النائب نبيل دو فريج، ممثل رئيس الحكومة محافظ مدينة بيروت والشمال ناصيف قالوش، الوزير السابق العماد فكتور خوري، ممثل قائد الجيش العميد انطوان شلهوب، العميد علي خليفة ممثلا المدير العام لقوى الامن الداخلي، العقيد ريمون خطار ممثلا المدير العام للأمن العام، سفير تركيا سيردار كيليك، القائم بأعمال السفارة المصرية هشام شعيمي، نقيب الصحافة محمد بعلبكي وحشد من الشخصيات الدبلوماسية والاجتماعية والعسكرية واعضاء مجلس بلدية بيروت واصحاب الخيول

وسلم الوزير فرعون كأس جائزة "فخامة رئيس الجمهورية اللبنانية الكبرى" لعام 2008 الى النائب فريج مالك الجواد الفائز "ماشي الحال"، أبوه "معليش"، أمه "قطر الندى". وقد فاز في الشوط الرابع بوقت دقيقتين و39 ثانية، على مسافة 2200 متر، بقيادة الخيال عصام وفي ضمار محمد زيدان
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Dear fellow members, i humbly believe the topic is clear and no way relates to Bachir Gemayel nor GMA's relation vis-à-vis the assassinated president. So kindly stick to the topic at hand. Till now, not one post has come close to discussing the content of the original post nor has anyone answered the questions raised. Hopefully we return to the right path after this brief deviation.
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Dear fellow members, i humbly believe the topic is clear and no way relates to Bachir Gemayel nor GMA's relation vis-à-vis the assassinated president. So kindly stick to the topic at hand. Till now, not one post has come close to discussing the content of the original post nor has anyone answered the questions raised. Hopefully we return to the right path after this brief deviation.
رئيس الجمهورية ليس ساحراً، وأنت تطلب سحراً
رئيس ليس لديه أي صلحيات، فقط للإستقبال والتوديع! فما تطلبه مستحيل
أمّا إن كنت تطالب بتحقيق وعود السياسيين، هههه فالسياسيون اللبنانيون جميعهم يبيعون الشعب كلاماً لا مكان له من الصرف
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رئيس الجمهورية ليس ساحراً، وأنت تطلب سحراً
رئيس ليس لديه أي صلحيات، فقط للإستقبال والتوديع! فما تطلبه مستحيل
أمّا إن كنت تطالب بتحقيق وعود السياسيين، هههه فالسياسيون اللبنانيون جميعهم يبيعون الشعب كلاماً لا مكان له من الصرف
Watani, I didn't ask anything from the president, nor am I expecting anything from him. I already know his presence is useless and merely a facade. He's just there to fill the chair, nothing more nothing less. However, my main point revolved around the 2 questions I asked in the end (mainly the last one). Kindly reread them and u will know why this thread was opened.
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Watani, I didn't ask anything from the president, and I'm not expecting anything from him. I already know his presence is useless and merely a facade. He's just there to fill the chair, nothing more nothing less. However, my main point revolved around the 2 questions I asked in the end (mainly the last one). Kindly reread them and u will know why this thread was opened.
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do u still believe electing a new president would have solved anything? And ultimately which argument turned out to be correct: "the vacancy in the presidency chair is the source of the problems, electing a president will automatically solve most of our issues" or "the vacancy is merely a symptom, electing a president without prior agreement on various subjects will not change anything"?


إنتخاب رئيس أو عدم انتخابه لا يحلّ أو يربط الأزمة اللبنانية. لأن سبب الأزمة ليس الرئيس ولا الرئاسة. فإن انتخبنا أو لم ننتخب رئيس أيا ً كان فالأزمة هي هي ستبقى ولن تحلّ أي مشكلة

لذا جميع المشاكل التي طرحتها لا ترتبط بأي شكل من الأشكال برئيس الجمهورية وشغور الرئاسة وانتخاب رئيس. يجب أن نكون واقعيين وصادقين مع أنفسنا، طريقة طرح الموضوع لا يعالج صلب المشكلة! نتائج انتخابات 2005 هي المشكلة الوحيدة ! وها هي اليوم نتائجها ترتدّ على تشكيل الحكومة! ولم يكن يوما ً شغور مركز رئيس الجمهورية المشكلة والحلّ! فمن دار بتلك القصيدة هو غير مبال ٍ بلبّ المشكلة
هذا الحديث غير موجه لك شخصيا ً بل لمن لا يريد أن يعرف ما هي المشكلة الحقيقية
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Do we really have a president????Lahoud early start was far more better thn sleiman,
unfortunately we will witness another hibernating president for the 6 coming years!!
Mabrouk 3laykun the Cedar's revolution !!!
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l'article paru le 23/08/1983, tu ne peux pas l'utiliser comme pièce d'identification. La situation avant le Taef était différente qu'après le Taef, ainsi que la distribution démographique que politique. Jahel décrivais son point de vue personnel et ajoutais le projet de bachir pour démontrer que son opinion est vrai et adécquate.

Lis s'il te plait ce que j'ai écris là
http://forum.tayyar.org/802356-post2.html

A ton avis, pourquoi Bachir est assassiné? Car il voudrait resoudre les problemes cités par vegojimbo??
Jahel était l'un des conseillers de Bachir et son représentant dans un des gouvernements d'union nationale sous la présidence Sarkis, Bachir refusant de participer personnellement à un gouvernement sous une présidence faible.
La situation avec Taef a empiré. Bachir a été assassiné car son projet était les 10 452 km2 pour chrétiens et musulmans, libres, égaux, dignes et en sécurité. Nous étions les compagnons de Bachir, nous savons de quoi nous parlons.
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I would switch the question the other way around: has electing the president caused things to become worse? It's of course true that simply electing a president will not magically solve all the problems, but was that a valid reason to maintain the vacuum for half a year?
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I would switch the question the other way around: has electing the president caused things to become worse? It's of course true that simply electing a president will not magically solve all the problems, but was that a valid reason to maintain the vacuum for half a year?
Delaying the presidential elections was UNFORTUNATELY the only way for the opposition to get the 1/3+1 in the gov and most importantly a fair electoral law.

Had the president been elected immediately, oppostion would have NEVER got all this. Proof? Look what is happenning regarding the division of portfolios when loyalists aren't under pressure.
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