Echos of the Sunni Street

[Kibitzer]

Originally Posted by walidos

The government is Sunni and Druze, the fact that there are some christians who are employees of Hariri's doesnt mean they represent the christians... sorry but you should look beyond the superficial...

You are wrong - The Christians (by law) are 50% of everything. FPM is not the total Christian street.

It was smart of Hezbollah to not invade the Christian areas but they still expect it.

When a mainly Shiite group attacks a mainly Sunni group - it is sectarian. That's what happened.

[sailormoon]

My analysis about it is that the Sunnis obviously feel deeply humiliated after that militias stormed their neighborhoods, they also lost faith in the army due to it unefficiency and above all felt betrayed, eye witnesses say that the army sided with Hezbollah and Amal on the ground and a lot of rumors are circulating about it , the fact that officers (mostly Sunnas) of the LA resigned after what happened just show us this discontent among the Sunnas. The results of such feelings among the Sunna population will be :

- A rise of sectarianism, the anti Shia feeling which was already existing will increase.

- Tough anti HA feelings, HA definitely lost the sympathy of the minority of Sunnas who were still considering them as a "resistance"

- Aoun lost the sympathy of the minority of Sunnas who were considering him a "national leader".

- But the most important thing is that the Sunnas street will realise the necessity for them to arm and defend theirselves , probably the ones who were reluctant regarding that idea will change their mind. So we can foresee two possible scenarios : either the FM youth (fouhood tari2 jdide and co) who has been severely hit , will rearm and will have a rise of popularity (instead of having 2000 armed men in their ranks they will have much more)
or the Sunnas will be deceived by FM s uncapacity to defend them and will turn their hopes to the radical wing such as al qaeda and salafist groups , which is the worst probable scenario.

[mehdi soldier]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fact that only the Sunni neighborhoods were targeted. M14 is not just Sunni. The Government is not just Sunni.

Only the Sunni were attacked. There is no doubt it was confessional and it really does not matter what the opposition claims ........ facts are facts and it's being reported that way all over the world.

first of all when it relate to such topics and incidents,i dont appreciate your comment,opinion or interference.this is a lebanese matter and not a zionist issue.

to reply to your words of discord and division:

get your facts straight that it was not sunni neighborhoods that were attcked.it was FM militia men and FM offices.if it happens that these offices are situated in sunni neighborhoods,then its just unfortunate.like sayyed nasrallah said,treason has no sect or religion.period.

you can please keep your facts for yourself and the biased western medias.the sunnis are our brothers and not the brothers of the west.its just a matter of time before their real identity and expressions are revealed.the likes of jumblatt and geagea have exploited the blood of hariri and the sunnis for too long.they have sold the community's name to the west.that is unfair.this is so to the extent that anyone be he sunni or not who is against saniora and with the resistance against "israel" is not sunni enough to be recognized.

and let it be clear to you and your medias and your west and your earth and your world,that lebanon is our country.it is the will of its people and their compromise and tolerance for one another and their support for one another to resist foreign threats and occupation that will prevail.anyone who is a western puppet in lebanon will never survive the lebanese current.its just a matter of time before any of your so called allies are thrown into the garbage dump whether he is shia,sunni or atheist.

[walidos]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

I'm reading what they are saying - and what they are saying is that their were no militias. They followed Hariri's word that the Army would protect them and the Army stood by and let them be invaded and killed. Sure, there are other venues that Hariri can use to try to reach them ..... and I pray he is successful but the odds are not good.

I'm an observer here but I don't just read one site - I read many. Hariri is losing control of the Sunni. They don't trust the Army. There is zero support for General Sleiman. That's what is going on. Keep in mind that I'm getting this news from English sites ....... I hate to think what the Arabic sites and posts are saying because they are by far the majority.

Its not your fault, the english media is somewhat biased... My relatives in the USA were sending word asking about the massacres that HA did in Beirut, and how they are firing everywhere with no resistance... sorry to say that is not accurate! just as HA was in Beirut, so were fighters from FM and both were armed to the teeth...

Same as what is happening today in the mountains, now please tell me you dont believe that Joumblat's militia is not armed...

[walidos]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

You are wrong - The Christians (by law) are 50% of everything. FPM is not the total Christian street.

It was smart of Hezbollah to not invade the Christian areas but they still expect it.

When a mainly Shiite group attacks a mainly Sunni group - it is sectarian. That's what happened.

Invasion is when a foreign entity takes over, as far as I know, the people in fighting in Beirut are Lebanese... so talks of invasion are really out of place...
Have you ever been to Beirut? A predominant Sunni community lives in Tari2 El Jdide and a couple more streets/blocks in Beirut, the rest is very much a mix of sunni, shiite and christian families... The Sunni government (perhaps the only sectarian entity in the equation) is trying to portray it as sectarian to get the involvement of Saudi Arabia and other arab states in their favor...

[Dynamis]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

You are wrong - The Christians (by law) are 50% of everything. FPM is not the total Christian street.

It was smart of Hezbollah to not invade the Christian areas but they still expect it.

When a mainly Shiite group attacks a mainly Sunni group - it is sectarian. That's what happened.

Kibbeh...Let me tell you, YOU ARE wrong...Just because you are a christian by religion does not mean you represent the christians....Same as US...No one in their right mind will say that Alan Keyes represents blacks...Right?

So Why don't you worry about the racism and descrimination in the US? right next door to you...? There is plenty of it....Against Blacks, Women, Hispanics, Immigrants, etc....Go Act locally...Go. Release your frustrations....Get busy with something you can affect and know something about.

I think you can have more effect on that instead of your mis-informed pontifications on the situation in Lebanon and the Middle East...

[CEDARLAND]

A man displays a news picture of Saturday's scene of an attack by a Shiite gunman against a funeral procession of Sunni Muslims, in Beirut, Lebanon, Sunday, May 11, 2008. AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis


By GREEENPOWER

[Observer]

Originally Posted by Kibitzer

You are wrong - The Christians (by law) are 50% of everything. FPM is not the total Christian street.

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You are wrong. Christians are not by law 50% of everything. No sect is by law 50% of everything.

[CEDARLAND]

Al-Qaeda declares war on Hezbollah
11.05.2008 News from Iraq: War, politics, economy
Al-Qaeda has reportedly called on its operatives to go to Lebanon and defend what it called the Sunni community of the country.The report came while some Arab media outlets described the current clashes in Lebanon as a fight between Sunni and Shia communities.In an interviews with Sunni clerics with links to Saad Hariri's pro-government bloc, Al-Arabiya TV network described the ongoing clashes as a sectarian strife. Sheikh Ali al-Jozo, Mufti of the Jebel region, who is well known for his harsh stance against Hezbollah told the TV network that the clashes are a battle between Lebanon's Shia and Sunni communities and called on Arab leaders to prevent "Iran's influence in the country." The TV network reported that al-Qaeda on all of its websites urged its operatives to defend the Sunni community of Lebanon

[CEDARLAND]

Very informative and instructive video 5 stars *****

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