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I am not talking about the arab regimes and officials... i am talking about el sha3eb el 3arabe...lek even the syrians i know are cursing HA
And most of the syrians I know are praising them and has always praised them.

I can understand that some sunnis are turning against HA now but most of them are only sectarian people and the reasons are not only related to Lebanon but also to Iraq. The sectarian card is played by KSA on behalf of the US and we as sunnis should never be fooled by their propaganda and forget who our real enemies are. I ask all the sunnis, is KSA going to fight Israel with you when you're in need?
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Why are you relating me to FM! i am not an FMer

And el Sha3eb el 3arabe doesnt need you or your sayyed in lebanon or iran to give them shhede bel 3orobe

lek eza 7osne mbarak be fell el sha3eb el masre byeklo lal sha3eb el israele akel... bas a55 3ala hal nezam w nafs el shee lal sha3b el soore wl sha3eb el 3arabe kello
I agree with the last pragraph 100% but that doesn't mean that we don't support and even work against the Shia when they are the ones (only in Lebanon ya3ni not iraqi shia) today doing what the arab regimes should have done a long time ago.
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We were heading down a much bloodier path had they achieved their goal of trapping the army to face off against HA and splitting it in half.

What you witnessed last week were inescapable preventative measures, but there was no other choice.
So honestly HA would attack the army?? You really think that?

I think that the Army, no matter where their allegiances are, MUST DO THEIR JOB...and that is to protect any citizen of the republic.....

We are not asking them to attack Hizbullah...but only to stand in between them and the citizen. And if Hizbullah still continues to attack, than they are against the army.

WHEN THEY DON'T DO THIS, the cease to be an army of the republic and become part of the special interest (in this particular case, HA).

You of all people should know this. Or is your allegiance keeping you away from your fellow patriots on the other side of the line??

We need to come together and find a way to make checks and balances in our security situation instead of isolation like these acts will only cause....

The fact that it is coming to this (weapons....clashes)...is a HUGE DEFEAT FOR ALL LEBANESE...
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So honestly HA would attack the army?? You really think that?
No they wouldn't, but like all Lebanese, army personnel too have allegiances. If the army was sent to disarm HA, i guarantee you at least half of them would have deserted. The other half wouldn't be able to bring calm to the streets of Lebanon. And it'll all spiral out of control. And that was exactly what GMS said he was scared would happen. And he was nearly put in that position because of that stupid meeting they had a week ago. And would have happened had HA not gone and punched FM in their face and broke their nose and tell them to yi'3ado 3aa'leen.
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No they wouldn't, but like all Lebanese, army personnel too have allegiances. If the army was sent to disarm HA, i guarantee you at least half of them would have deserted.
Well I am in agreement here...this is a PROBLEM...


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The other half wouldn't be able to bring calm to the streets of Lebanon. And it'll all spiral out of control. And that was exactly what GMS said he was scared would happen. And he was nearly put in that position because of that stupid meeting they had a week ago. And would have happened had HA not gone and punched FM in their face and broke their nose and tell them to yi'3ado 3aa'leen.
Khayeh... this is a problem...

WE KNOW the tensions... the political tensions that have been built over these past few years... Said Hassan knows these tensions...

He knows the feeling around the country about the weapons that his party carries... he knows that he's been called on to surrender the arms to the military to let them do the job...

But he still did this..no matter what the intention is or the purpose... the result is still that HA attacked other Lebanese with intent... and this is the type of gesture it has given to the other lebanese.... this is a huge defeat for Hizbullah's cause ....that is if their cause is to appeal to the rest of the republic and not only its own people...


But time is showing that maybe that is not their cause...and this is what worries everyone. So for HA sake, I am hopeing some of these transgressions are rectified so that the country doesn't continue to spiral down into a chaos...
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But he still did this..no matter what the intention is or the purpose... the result is still that HA attacked other Lebanese with intent... and this is the type of gesture it has given to the other lebanese.
Yes bro, it has caused a big reaction. HA knew it would, they're not silly. The operations planners all sat around a room, and discussed "what will be the reaction of this operation". They studied every alternative they had to resist disarmament and the break-up of the army. Obviously to them they said the best choice out of all the strategies they brainstormed, was to commit to this operation. The next couple weeks will reveal the true extent of the by-product of 14th decisions and the events that it triggered. But judging from HA's past, every every single time they been written off, they've proved everyone wrong. It's way too early to write them off yet.
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hohammed 3atef the head of the muslim brotherhood just announced today
that HA is always right in what he does in lebanon and he supports him fully, and if anything this will make him more popular with muslims.
same as the jordanian muslim brotherhood affiliate al 3amal al islami
thes eorganization are the sunni and speak for them.
so please do not worry about sunni shia problems.
the sunnis are always on the right track and will always back anybody agsinst israel.
saudi does not represent them by any way, it only uses parts and i say only parts of al kaeda to perpetrate horror.
its influence is nothing compared to MB .
see what happened in palestine , where it is 100% sunni and hamas won and they had no choice but to open the border in rafah
in lebanon were are stronger more powerful and can not be caged like gaza.
take hearts guys, the battle is at the finishing
just be patient
the americans are pragmatic, they only dialogue with the poweful only and the people on the gorund.
as for wj he is deflated, the ARMY has entered chouf for first time since 75, that in itself is a master peace against him.

LONG LIVE GMA
i ask all FPM to lawys end their posts like this
be proud be defiant be strong
we have the brain we have the heart we are always right
and now we have many muslims on our side, we are truly forging a new country and connections.
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hohammed 3atef the head of the muslim brotherhood just announced today
that HA is always right in what he does in lebanon and he supports him fully, and if anything this will make him more popular with muslims.
same as the jordanian muslim brotherhood affiliate al 3amal al islami
thes eorganization are the sunni and speak for them.
so please do not worry about sunni shia problems.
the sunnis are always on the right track and will always back anybody agsinst israel.
saudi does not represent them by any way, it only uses parts and i say only parts of al kaeda to perpetrate horror.
its influence is nothing compared to MB .
see what happened in palestine , where it is 100% sunni and hamas won and they had no choice but to open the border in rafah
in lebanon were are stronger more powerful and can not be caged like gaza.
take hearts guys, the battle is at the finishing
just be patient
the americans are pragmatic, they only dialogue with the poweful only and the people on the gorund.
as for wj he is deflated, the ARMY has entered chouf for first time since 75, that in itself is a master peace against him.

LONG LIVE GMA
i ask all FPM to lawys end their posts like this
be proud be defiant be strong
we have the brain we have the heart we are always right
and now we have many muslims on our side, we are truly forging a new country and connections.
I hope you're right on the above but truly i suspect that, the last events had a really bad impact on the whole relation Sunnist-shiite in the entire world and not only in Lebanon. But let's be optimistic and hope for the best, maybe who hit you love you.
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