advanced search
Contact Us tayyar.org
 
The Orange Room - forum.tayyar.org
 



Notices
The Orange Room Discuss anything related to Lebanon, Lebanese Politics, Breaking News and Live Updates on Major Events related to Lebanon & the World

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  (#201 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
teshesh's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 248
Thanks: 26
Thanked 51 Times in 41 Posts
Last Online: 2 Days Ago
Join Date: Tue Jun 2008
View teshesh's Photo Album
Default 11th August 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by General-Specific View Post
In 1946, before Israel was established, Zionist forces killed 44 people in one village, this was long before Palestinians came to Lebanon. And NO Lebanese politician spoke of the incident.
You do not care about the children who get killed in south Lebanon, you do not care at all, and all you do is find excuses why you shouldn't care.

Israel was always the aggressor, HA started in 1982, they were first seen fighting Israel in Khaldeh.
Were you against Israel in "Grapes of Wrath" in 1996 when they bombed the UN center and killed over 100 Lebanese, more than half were children?

the Sunnis and Sheites have their problems, but trust me on this one, when it comes to Israel, the Sunnis will be fiercely against it, this thing is embedded in Islamic religion. As for the Christians, the brave ones would support the resistance, and the weak hearted will cheer for Israel from a "civilized" country.

what you refuse to believe is that Israel is always the aggressor.
even in 2006, they were planning to have a war anyway, HA didn't make a difference.
Let's see who said 2006 war was planned.
Halotz, Olmert, Barak, Levni, Natenyahu, and numerous other ministers.

however, you refuse to believe Israeli politicians, you refuse to believe HA when they say it was a planned war, and you believe people like Dory Chamoun.

grow some patriotism, try to force a tear out over the children of Qana (where Jesus turned water into wine, YES HE DID THAT IN SOUTH LEBANON)

and as for your "civilized country", EU and USA are only rich because they rob the world's people off their resources.
They destroy other people's countries and support regimes like KSA, Saddam(for 20 years), and Israel in order to be "civilized". True civilization is found in the people, the farmers, the warrior, women and children, the men who quench Lebanon's soil with their red blood.
i just want to point out that religious motivation is not that reliable. i don't think at all that a muslim is by definition more likely to fight the israeli occupation and aggression than a christian or an atheist.
religion would endorse and shape the struggle IF a person is already convinced that he should struggle and face the injustice. , but it doesn't' initiate it....
for those that have made the decision to just lay down and do nothing and bend over to the israelis, no religion will make them change their minds. but instead, they will seek something to justify their decision from inside the religion itself.
at the end, it is all about how much are you willing to accept injustice.
Sponsored Links
  (#202 (permalink)) Old
FBM
Registered Member
 
FBM's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 1,994
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 207
Thanked 254 Times in 188 Posts
Last Online: 15 Hours Ago
Join Date: Wed May 2008
View FBM's Photo Album
Default 11th August 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by General-Specific View Post

the Sunnis and Sheites have their problems, but trust me on this one, when it comes to Israel, the Sunnis will be fiercely against it, this thing is embedded in Islamic religion. As for the Christians, the brave ones would support the resistance, and the weak hearted will cheer for Israel from a "civilized" country.

WHAT?!??! Dude what does religion have to do with Isreal/Palastine I don't think that we are fighting for an islamic state down there are we?!
  (#203 (permalink)) Old
Orange Room Supporter
 
Red Phoenix's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 8,046
Blog Entries: 3
Thanks: 2,296
Thanked 1,678 Times in 1,218 Posts
Last Online: 1 Hour Ago
Join Date: Wed Jul 2007
View Red Phoenix's Photo Album
Default 11th August 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by FBM View Post
WHAT?!??! Dude what does religion have to do with Isreal/Palastine I don't think that we are fighting for an islamic state down there are we?!
yes, but isnt it a religious thing to 'liberate' the aksa mosque ?

perhaps this is what he meant

while for christians the crusader tendency to liberate christian churches and holy places there is long gone

but when it was, it was really a 'religious' thing too
  (#204 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
General-Specific's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 102
Thanks: 6
Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts
Last Online: 8 Hours Ago
Join Date: Thu Apr 2009
View General-Specific's Photo Album
Default 11th August 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by teshesh View Post
i just want to point out that religious motivation is not that reliable. i don't think at all that a muslim is by definition more likely to fight the israeli occupation and aggression than a christian or an atheist.
religion would endorse and shape the struggle IF a person is already convinced that he should struggle and face the injustice. , but it doesn't' initiate it....
for those that have made the decision to just lay down and do nothing and bend over to the israelis, no religion will make them change their minds. but instead, they will seek something to justify their decision from inside the religion itself.
at the end, it is all about how much are you willing to accept injustice.
where i live makes it easier for me to talk about sunnis than christians since i know them better, and they are raised being told told that israel is an occupier etc... I'm sorry if anybody understood this the wrong way.
The Following User Says Thank You to General-Specific For This Useful Post:
Robin Hood (11th August 2009)
  (#205 (permalink)) Old
Registered Member
 
Robin Hood's Avatar
 
Online
Posts: 1,226
Thanks: 1,100
Thanked 176 Times in 134 Posts
Last Online: 2 Hours Ago
Join Date: Fri Dec 2008
View Robin Hood's Photo Album
Default 11th August 2009

Quote:
Originally Posted by General-Specific View Post
where i live makes it easier for me to talk about sunnis than christians since i know them better, and they are raised being told told that israel is an occupier etc... I'm sorry if anybody understood this the wrong way.
In fact, Muslims are religiously motivated to fight because becuz of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third Holies Place in Islam.
Closed Thread

  The Orange Room - forum.tayyar.org The Orange Room Main Forums The Orange Room

Tags
aviv, happen, hit, israel, israelian, lebanon, nasrallah, tel, threatens, war


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump

Forums Directory