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Originally Posted by General-Specific In 1946, before Israel was established, Zionist forces killed 44 people in one village, this was long before Palestinians came to Lebanon. And NO Lebanese politician spoke of the incident.
You do not care about the children who get killed in south Lebanon, you do not care at all, and all you do is find excuses why you shouldn't care.
Israel was always the aggressor, HA started in 1982, they were first seen fighting Israel in Khaldeh.
Were you against Israel in "Grapes of Wrath" in 1996 when they bombed the UN center and killed over 100 Lebanese, more than half were children? the Sunnis and Sheites have their problems, but trust me on this one, when it comes to Israel, the Sunnis will be fiercely against it, this thing is embedded in Islamic religion. As for the Christians, the brave ones would support the resistance, and the weak hearted will cheer for Israel from a "civilized" country.
what you refuse to believe is that Israel is always the aggressor.
even in 2006, they were planning to have a war anyway, HA didn't make a difference.
Let's see who said 2006 war was planned.
Halotz, Olmert, Barak, Levni, Natenyahu, and numerous other ministers.
however, you refuse to believe Israeli politicians, you refuse to believe HA when they say it was a planned war, and you believe people like Dory Chamoun.
grow some patriotism, try to force a tear out over the children of Qana (where Jesus turned water into wine, YES HE DID THAT IN SOUTH LEBANON)
and as for your "civilized country", EU and USA are only rich because they rob the world's people off their resources.
They destroy other people's countries and support regimes like KSA, Saddam(for 20 years), and Israel in order to be "civilized". True civilization is found in the people, the farmers, the warrior, women and children, the men who quench Lebanon's soil with their red blood. | i just want to point out that religious motivation is not that reliable. i don't think at all that a muslim is by definition more likely to fight the israeli occupation and aggression than a christian or an atheist.
religion would endorse and shape the struggle IF a person is already convinced that he should struggle and face the injustice. , but it doesn't' initiate it....
for those that have made the decision to just lay down and do nothing and bend over to the israelis, no religion will make them change their minds. but instead, they will seek something to justify their decision from inside the religion itself.
at the end, it is all about how much are you willing to accept injustice. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by General-Specific the Sunnis and Sheites have their problems, but trust me on this one, when it comes to Israel, the Sunnis will be fiercely against it, this thing is embedded in Islamic religion. As for the Christians, the brave ones would support the resistance, and the weak hearted will cheer for Israel from a "civilized" country. |
WHAT?!??! Dude what does religion have to do with Isreal/Palastine I don't think that we are fighting for an islamic state down there are we?! | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by FBM WHAT?!??! Dude what does religion have to do with Isreal/Palastine I don't think that we are fighting for an islamic state down there are we?! | yes, but isnt it a religious thing to 'liberate' the aksa mosque ?
perhaps this is what he meant
while for christians the crusader tendency to liberate christian churches and holy places there is long gone
but when it was, it was really a 'religious' thing too | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by teshesh i just want to point out that religious motivation is not that reliable. i don't think at all that a muslim is by definition more likely to fight the israeli occupation and aggression than a christian or an atheist.
religion would endorse and shape the struggle IF a person is already convinced that he should struggle and face the injustice. , but it doesn't' initiate it....
for those that have made the decision to just lay down and do nothing and bend over to the israelis, no religion will make them change their minds. but instead, they will seek something to justify their decision from inside the religion itself.
at the end, it is all about how much are you willing to accept injustice. | where i live makes it easier for me to talk about sunnis than christians since i know them better, and they are raised being told told that israel is an occupier etc... I'm sorry if anybody understood this the wrong way. | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to General-Specific For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by General-Specific where i live makes it easier for me to talk about sunnis than christians since i know them better, and they are raised being told told that israel is an occupier etc... I'm sorry if anybody understood this the wrong way. | In fact, Muslims are religiously motivated to fight because becuz of the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the third Holies Place in Islam. | | | |  | | |
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