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Originally Posted by FBM Fine then Amal are Syrians so are SSNP and LCP, and 40% of Hizballah too (the other 60 is you know what)
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Originally Posted by FBM Fine then Amal are Syrians so are SSNP and LCP, and 40% of Hizballah too (the other 60 is you know what)
And they are all on the same side: Occupationist | Thanks for agreeing on the fact that FM and DRM are all accountable and relate to the same side:Wahhabi KSA
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal Thanks for agreeing on the fact that FM and DRM are all accountable and relate to the same side:Wahhabi KSA
The rest,I don't agree with. | Why do you turn a blind eye on your allies and yourself? but you critisize the other side for doing the exact same thing? | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by FBM Why do you turn a blind eye on your allies and yourself? but you critisize the other side for doing the exact same thing? | Because our allies are not doing the same thing,thus,we are not turning a blind eye.
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal Because our allies are not doing the same thing,thus,we are not turning a blind eye.
Logique non? | Pardon moi je ne parles francias...
Yes your allies ARE doing the same thing, isnt Berri stealing money from the parliment? Well of course you are gonna say no, so I will save you some time and energy and say don't be naive since Berri has been the head of the majlis for quite a while and I KNOW for a FACT that he takes a certian percentage from every plan that the majlis passes... | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by FBM Pardon moi je ne parles francias...
Yes your allies ARE doing the same thing, isnt Berri stealing money from the parliment? Well of course you are gonna say no, so I will save you some time and energy and say don't be naive since Berri has been the head of the majlis for quite a while and I KNOW for a FACT that he takes a certian percentage from every plan that the majlis passes... | Nobody Agrees on what Berri is Doing But at the Same time Berri is Finished, HA hit the Structure of AMAL pretty hard during the war and took Most of thier Supporters And They have totally different policies, Ya3ni Nabih Berri HA De3eslou 3a Ra2ebtou.
Bass el Mustaqbal are Roaming Free with thier Anti-Resistance and Pro-American and Israeli Ideas and Have Plans Far more Dangerous than Berri, Thus FM is far more dangerous Than Berri and AMAL. | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by TripolySunni Nobody Agrees on what Berri is Doing But at the Same time Berri is Finished, HA hit the Structure of AMAL pretty hard during the war and took Most of thier Supporters And They have totally different policies, Ya3ni Nabih Berri HA De3eslou 3a Ra2ebtou.
Bass el Mustaqbal are Roaming Free with thier Anti-Resistance and Pro-American and Israeli Ideas and Have Plans Far more Dangerous than Berri, Thus FM is far more dangerous Than Berri and AMAL. | FM is holding a confrence on arabism during the 21st century in Bristol, check it out sometime if you can | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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FBM,
I don't how you always manage to take the discussion to an off topic point.Let me take it back to where it belongs.
In here,we are talking about terrorism.
And KSA is sponsoring extremist Islamists and terrorists in Lebanon.And FM and the likes of Mosbah El Ajdab, are its lackeys.They are the ones on the ground,charged to pay extremists Salafis and Wahabis,in order to perform terrorists acts,that would help give KSA (And the ones behind it) some leverage on the Lebanese political scene.
Do not compare the incomparable.
And try to make a distinction between political stances that you disagree with,from one side,and terrorist acts and culture of hate,to gain some political leverage,from the other side.
You have the right to your opinion,but you cannot just bring a terrorist culture from outside,finance it,and make it prosper,just for you to gain some political weight.
This will soon backfire,and you would be the first victim,believe me.
Those terrorist islamists are not just after the Shiaa or the Christians.They are after everybody else than them.
And on the list of their priorities,it is the Sunni moderate who is the first target.
That's you.
This is not the first time that you hear this,i know.And I am well placed and well aware of the criticism directed by the Sunnis themselves to Hariri Sr.,for not being clear or for being sometimes lenient on those extremists.
That's because he never wanted to upset KSA,yet,he never seriously worked on eradicating those movements.
As if he was leaving them under control...For some unknown reason.Which was the reason for the criticism.
The son Saad,is totally KSA's puppet now.Nothing like the father.
And KSA needs to strengthen and grow all extremists and terrorists it has leverage on,in the whole region and not just in Lebanon,in order to use them as leverage,in its battle against Syria and Iran.
And this battle between KSA from one side,and Syria and Iran,from the other side,although not primarily of our concern,have become a Lebanese matter,because KSA chose to unleash it from Lebanon.
Let KSA fight its battle against Syria and Iran from its own land,and not from Lebanon.Nchallah Bi 2abbro Ba3don,we don't care.
In here,KSA has no business.
And our interests as Lebanese,is to be in good relations with Syria.Which means that in no way,can we be part of the same front with KSA,in its battle against Syria and Iran.
Which means that we cannot afford to let KSA mess with our interests,as much as we cannot afford it to mess with our sovereignty.
We do not want to be enemy with anyone,but do not push our patience off limits.
KSA should stop funding and helping terrorists in Lebanon to use them for its own war against Syria and Iran.
KSA should go wage its war against Syria and Iran from its own territory.
If KSA doesn't want to do that,not only would we have to kick it out like all others before it,but we will have no fear or shame to mess with its own sovereignty.
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I dont get it!
Is this the Wild Wild West?
Now every one that can gather 50 people can go force the release of criminals?
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Originally Posted by Abou Sandal FBM,
I don't how you always manage to take the discussion to an off topic point.Let me take it back to where it belongs.
In here,we are talking about terrorism.
And KSA is sponsoring extremist Islamists and terrorists in Lebanon.And FM and the likes of Mosbah El Ajdab, are its lackeys.They are the ones on the ground,charged to pay extremists Salafis and Wahabis,in order to perform terrorists acts,that would help give KSA (And the ones behind it) some leverage on the Lebanese political scene.
Do not compare the incomparable.
And try to make a distinction between political stances that you disagree with,from one side,and terrorist acts and culture of hate,to gain some political leverage,from the other side.
You have the right to your opinion,but you cannot just bring a terrorist culture from outside,finance it,and make it prosper,just for you to gain some political weight.
This will soon backfire,and you would be the first victim,believe me.
Those terrorist islamists are not just after the Shiaa or the Christians.They are after everybody else than them.
And on the list of their priorities,it is the Sunni moderate who is the first target.
That's you.
This is not the first time that you hear this,i know.And I am well placed and well aware of the criticism directed by the Sunnis themselves to Hariri Sr.,for not being clear or for being sometimes lenient on those extremists.
That's because he never wanted to upset KSA,yet,he never seriously worked on eradicating those movements.
As if he was leaving them under control...For some unknown reason.Which was the reason for the criticism.
The son Saad,is totally KSA's puppet now.Nothing like the father.
And KSA needs to strengthen and grow all extremists and terrorists it has leverage on,in the whole region and not just in Lebanon,in order to use them as leverage,in its battle against Syria and Iran.
And this battle between KSA from one side,and Syria and Iran,from the other side,although not primarily of our concern,have become a Lebanese matter,because KSA chose to unleash it from Lebanon.
Let KSA fight its battle against Syria and Iran from its own land,and not from Lebanon.Nchallah Bi 2abbro Ba3don,we don't care.
In here,KSA has no business.
And our interests as Lebanese,is to be in good relations with Syria.Which means that in no way,can we be part of the same front with KSA,in its battle against Syria and Iran.
Which means that we cannot afford to let KSA mess with our interests,as much as we cannot afford it to mess with our sovereignty.
We do not want to be enemy with anyone,but do not push our patience off limits.
KSA should stop funding and helping terrorists in Lebanon to use them for its own war against Syria and Iran.
KSA should go wage its war against Syria and Iran from its own territory.
If KSA doesn't want to do that,not only would we have to kick it out like all others before it,but we will have no fear or shame to mess with its own sovereignty.
And that's only the fair side of our reaction. |
Yes I agree with you and I know that fact, you dont have to tell me that point, and before we go any further i wanna remind you that I dont agree with the release of the islamist prisons from naher il bared days, because if we release them all we will also release the terrorists amongst them, thats why i prefer if we speed up with the investigations... And now this "protest" i s for the people that faught during the 7 may battles... so either let them go if you have nothing against them or tell us what you are accusing them of! | | | |  | | |
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