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Offers of free trip to Lebanon by Feb 14 (in Australia):

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March 14's US wing calls for joint effort to get expatriates here for June polls
Plans include 'travel strategy,' housing, opening Mouawad airport


By Nicholas Kimbrell
Daily Star staff
Wednesday, January 14, 2009

BEIRUT: Members of the March 14 alliance based in the United States have sent an open letter to party officials in Lebanon voicing their displeasure with the new electoral law and requesting that specific preparations be made to accommodate Lebanese expatriates returning to vote in the June parliamentary elections, The Daily Star has learned.

The letter, sent by Serge Selwan of the National Liberal Party (NLP) on behalf "14March-US" and seen by The Daily Star, requests, among other things, the full enfranchisement of Lebanese-Americans and information on tight electoral races.

It also demands that the Lebanese government make arrangements to open Rene Mouawad Airport in Kleiat, in case Beirut's Rafik Hariri International Airport is closed prior to the polls.

The letter, entitled "Open letter to 14 March Lebanon concerning June '09 elections," was sent on behalf of US-based representatives of the Future Movement, the Phalange Party, the Lebanese Forces (LF), the NLP and the Progressive Socialist Party (PSP).

The letter begins with a historical account of the Lebanese diaspora, particularly the close family ties between Lebanon and the US, and it criticizes the recent electoral law which does not permit Lebanese to vote from abroad.

"It is unacceptable that Lebanon continues to benefit from the financial prosperity of the diaspora without acknowledging the basic right of Lebanese living abroad to contribute to the political well-being of the country," the letter says.

However, the letter also notes Lebanese expatriates' "right and duty to participate" in the country's democratic process, and says that Lebanese-Americans will do their "utmost" to be in Lebanon for the June 7 polls.

To this end, the letter's authors request that the diaspora commission within March 14's general secretariat be reactivated and that the majority alliance "publicly and continuously" acknowledge the right of Lebanese-Americans to participate in the elections.


The head of the NLP, Dori Chamoun, who is running in the elections, told The Daily Star that he knew of the open letter, but that he hadn't yet seen the specifics. He did, however, acknowledge that getting people to Lebanon to vote was important but could be difficult, and that a "traffic jam" should be avoided.

When asked if the US branches of March 14 collaborated with party officials here in Lebanon, Chamoun answered: "Of course there is cooperation."

The second half of the open letter contains four additional requests regarding the voting infrastructure for those expatriates that do return for the vote. First, that necessary information about the upcoming polls (to include information on the "most contentious electoral battles") be provided to March 14 members in the US.

Second, the letter requests assistance in putting together a "travel strategy" for Lebanese Americans who want to participate in the polls. The third request asks that preparations be made to "absorb a number of American-Lebanese who may need housing."

The letter's fourth and final clause is a demand of the Lebanese government: It "require[s] from the Lebanese Government to gear-up the Rene Moawad Airport in Kleiat as an alternative airport in case the Rafik Hariri International Airport in Beirut is closed down by a force-majeur."

The Daily Star also spoke with a leading party in the March 8 opposition to see if their foreign-based representatives were requesting similar get out the vote and accommodation initiatives. May Aql, the foreign press secretary for the Free Patriotic Movement headed by Michel Aoun, said that institutionally her party was not.

"At the level of the party we are not," she said. "We'll work to build awareness," she added, but travel plans, preparations and organization depend on "personal initiative."


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1000 $ by "voice" and the “Mayor” is present. Bukhaazi revealed to "OTV": What do Harb, Al-Ahdab, and Naila doing in Australia?

By Nancy Saab-

The Cabinet of Deputes’ refused to grant the majority of Lebanese living abroad during the Election Day, the right to choose their representatives when they refused to approve the reforms to the electoral law, including the right to vote outside of Lebanon.

The excuse is that the period before the elections is not sufficient to prepare all the necessary for this kind of project.

The majority refused to give the Lebanese their right, according to the law, but they can try to get their vote by other means... Moreover, I mean by extortion, by using the petrodollars, but don't get me wrong, all this is done "selectively" of course...

So what they did not want to be wide-ranging (right to vote outside Lebanon), they are trying now, to take it from their supporters abroad by other means.. These means are well known and they only need financing! And by billions...

Robert Bukhaazi

A Lebanese emigrant in Australia revealed the plan made by the “future movement” and said: "Airline Tickets are available, along with $ 1000 to cover the cost of living in Lebanon. Australia, as you all know, is far and the ticket, cost about three thousand Australian dollars. I came to Lebanon before the Holidays and I booked my place on time, yet the ticket cost was three thousand dollars. So go figure if you want to book thousands of tickets on the spot... Got the idea?

Corruption is the majorities policy, exploitation of the martyr “Rafik el Hariri’s” blood, by distributing assistance or aid in his spirit, setting themselves as the protectors of the red line and the protectors of the Lebanese Cedar through their huge painting of advertizing;

Moreover, their way to involve some religious symbols, no, let me rephrase, the involvement of the entire religion in the political game, plus other benefits to some, such as paying school fees or other bills...

How can you explain all this? Nevertheless, to transform people into beggars and needy, begging for the initiation of their rights.

Many other ways of local corruption does not differ with the immigrant. Money paid, tickets distributed soon, Lebanese passports done, and mostly the mayor is available in Australia to prevail.

Bukhaazi adds”: they sent deputies’ to Australia. Boutros Harb was there after Christmas, accompanied by a mayor to sign the requests for passports to Lebanese. They use the offices of the Forces, Phalange and the future in Australia to help fill these requests. They sent in the past two month Ahmed Fatfat, Misbah Al-Ahdab, and Naila Moawad. "

Those applications provides the necessary information on the emigrants, especially the most important is their ballot point. Applicants singed, and it is shown on the applications, after answering many questions that are all necessary questions:

- Are you an advocate of the Future Movement supporters Are You?
- Do you want to participate in the parliamentary elections next?
- Do you want to go to Hajj? This question is also contained in packaging applications, with a clear purpose. The price of the electoral voice, is equal the pilgrimage price.

Bukhaazi complemented”: The applications are distributed in churches and sent it by mail while on it the slogans of the Lebanese Forces and the future movement. "

These actions wont inhibits but one national conscience, which will stand free for seconds behind the isolated wall, so he could and for the rest of his life, live freely and surely without needing them.


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Here you go guys, for those of you that want to make your voice be heard stand up and count against those Syrian Iranian
ps offcourse the Saudi's are not paying for this, this is from Ammouni's hard earned money.


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Lebanon at a crossroad and your vote makes a difference

The American Lebanese Assembly calls on all American Lebanese to stand up and count in Lebanon’s most challenging time. Either our people secure the sovereignty and independence of Lebanon or we return to the days of darkness and occupation.

In March 2005, the people of Lebanon led the Cedar Revolution and released themselves from the tight grip of Syria’s occupation, cruelty and persecution.

The Lebanese Parliament failed to ratify a proposal to allow Lebanese expatriates to vote in the upcoming spring elections, under pressure from the Syrian-Iranian cronies, including Hizbullah, Amal, Aoun Movement, the Syrian Nationalist and Ba’ath parties.

The ALA calls on all American Lebanese at all political, social, communal and organizational levels to encourage and facilitate active participation in voting. The ALA will work with March 14 representatives to facilitate the trip to Lebanon in order to participate in the elections that will demarcate Lebanon’s freedom, independence and sovereignty.

To obtain more assistance with registration for voting and trip information please call:
John Faddoul: 216-789-0280 (Ohio), Tony Helou: 703-598-7999 (Virginia/Maryland), Joe Rached: 813-610-6100 (Florida), Charbel Moussa: 202-531-4551 (Washington D.C), David Chehade: 732-563-5200 (New Jersey), Fahim Gemayel: 440-579-1100 (Ohio), George Eid: 502-797-3159 (Kentucky), Hamid Kantara: 713-589-4440 (Texas).

Our country needs us, do not remiss our national duties!!

Your individual vote will contribute to our collective freedom.
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this is ridiculous.. cant we(supporters) take any legal actions against the bribes by the FM? They have no shame whatsoever they know my
political affiliation but still sent me numerous emails and one tried to call
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. most recently, a report about MP Boutros Harb sending moukhtar Tanoureen and others to Australia to presuade Lebanese diaspora to come and vote.
my question to all diaspora; have you encountered or do you know of such actions whether from majority or opposition?where? when? how?
Well I am in Australia and I am quite open to the idea of having my ticket subsidised to go and vote for whoever pays for it. Throw is a couple of vouchers to , shall we say, happy houses in M3ameltein and a week stay in a luxurious hotel and my loyalty for whoever deems it significant is untarnished. I could even go as far as saying long live lebanon and, who knows, perhaps mean it too.

To answer yoru question whether funds are being expended to go to Lebanon, I can say on good authority the answer is a qualified yes. The qualification is due only to timming issues in respect of whether the promised tickets will actually be delivered. That we wont know for some time yet. In the meanwhile one can only hope it's true. Somehow gestures of kindness like this tend to make one grow more fond of the homeland and more interested in its future, should there ever be one.
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BUYING EXPATRIATES VOTES TO INFLUENCE LEBANESE ELECTION RESULTS

El Marada News:

In a desperate attempt to bridge the gap which determines their unpopularity and disapproval rating amongst voters within their electorates back in Lebanon, some members of the so-called March 14 factions have been touring the world in order to win –or rather buy votes of certain expatriates- abroad to boost their chances of claiming parliamentary seats in the coming Lebanese polls.

A number of Lebanese candidates affiliated with the March 14 factions are scheduled to arrive in Australia in the next few weeks with one goal in mind and that is to attract expatriates to vote for them by offering them lucrative deals which include free air travel tickets, free accommodation, spending money and free paperwork to ensure they acquire the right documentations such as new Lebanese passports and IDs used to cast their votes once they arrive in Lebanon by the 7th of June 2009.

The irony of it all is that those same politicians and their allies have failed the Lebanese expatriates when they rejected the proposed legislation that would have allowed the expatriates to cast their votes in the 2009 elections and yet they are now keen to arrange to have as many of their pro-expatriates or undecided potential voters to travel to Lebanon expense-free to vote in their favour in a clear breach of Lebanese electoral law and transparency.

While this is happening, it seems as though the Lebanese Interior Ministry is living in a different world where the obvious violations are none of its concerns. The ministry and world organisations, like the Jimmy Carter Foundation, that call for fair election procedures around the world, in addition to host nations renowned for their genuine democracy – such as Australia- are invited to investigate these claims and question the delegations assigned to buy votes with the aim of influencing the results of the 2009 Lebanese elections.

What is taking place is nothing short of an act of corruption that is being covered with false claims and ought to be exposed and stopped sooner rather than later for the sake of fair play and transparency.

28/1/2009


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Well I am in Australia and I am quite open to the idea of having my ticket subsidised to go and vote for whoever pays for it. Throw is a couple of vouchers to , shall we say, happy houses in M3ameltein and a week stay in a luxurious hotel and my loyalty for whoever deems it significant is untarnished. I could even go as far as saying long live lebanon and, who knows, perhaps mean it too.
[/quote]Here is where our outlook at the election in Lebanon diverges. Bad representatives are often elected because the good and hard-working citizens do not vote!! I refuse any financial or lavish incentive to buy my vote, my beliefs, that could one step ahead toward straighten the perverted and curvy path that has been imposed on Lebanon by its selfish politicians for long time. Yes, I still believe I am part of Lebanon, significant part of my sense of belonging can be sketched in every stone and corners of that place.
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To answer yoru question whether funds are being expended to go to Lebanon, I can say on good authority the answer is a qualified yes. The qualification is due only to timming issues in respect of whether the promised tickets will actually be delivered. That we wont know for some time yet. In the meanwhile one can only hope it's true. Somehow gestures of kindness like this tend to make one grow more fond of the homeland and more interested in its future, should there ever be one.
Shadow1, thank you for your understanding of the situation, eventhough something inside me doubt your seriousness about your proposal in the previous paragraph. I can understand your frustration with the Lebanese setup both politically and socially, though your vote is worth it to make change in the right direction. These politicians know no gesture, they expect service for every penney spent on a Lebanese citizens, home and abroad. Shadow1, once you offered your vote to the highest bidder, you will be registered/engraved for another round of utilization once the needs arise. Your whole entity will be confined to the bondage of voting slavery to corrupt politicians. and for what-hopefully not for just 30 Silver!! Indeed, voting is like a rifle, its usefulness depends on the characters of the user!!
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Sarhay, 1st thank you for opening this Thread

I can tell you here in Canada I have heared it for months now that 14 el shaher are organizing for their supporters to go vote this summer. Apparently there are forms being filled out "el moustaqbal" is of course the one providing the money and the main driver money wise, but they are all working on mobilizing it seems. I have heared from "LF" friends and aquaintances that take part in meetings and a are involved the ticket is being paid of course plus a $1000 in spending money with the usual anything and everything will be done "tan sa2it Micheal Aoun" and actually it was in the media even the "LF" website that the "LF" office in Montreal held a meeting about the elections under the slogan "7ellou el wafa 7ellou el iltizam intekheb la thawret el arz entkheb la lebnan" So it seems to be happening. As for FPM or mou3arada I have not heared anything about them offering anything similar. I hope they also have an action plan!

AK
Ak, you are welcome. I believe by knowing what is going on with the diaspora might initiate some actions or draw attention to their plight. I am not asking that FPM and opposition to use the same cheap appraoch but rather show their convictions in better Lebanon documented and appealing!! Let's hope FPM's effort will bear results!
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This is good news. The "loyalists" are expecting a huge defeat.

On average, each ticket will cost Geagea/Moustaqbal $1,000 (to be conservative).
By the way, geagea is using his father's wealth (Farid) to buy the tickets.

500 additional votes in a specific district will cost them $500,000. If they give me $100,000, I can get them an additional 1,000 votes in any district!


1,000 additional votes will cost them $1,000,000. For a million dollar, I can triple the number of votes to 3,000 in any district. Hell! For a million dollar, I will make dead people vote.

Conclusion: It seems the loyalists are desperate.
JR, even if the loyalists are desperate, at least they acknowledging it and they are doing something about, regardless if we agree on their approach or not! On the side, inflated confidence could bubble and produce empty slogans. recent universities' elections are just minuscule samples of what might happen in the general election.
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al tefell al mou3jezat is in australia with jawad

how many people are there form the kaza that are 14feb and are willing to come????200-300 ya khayye 500
it will not make a dent in zgharta
same goes for koura nd batroun in australia

WE KNOW WHO AE THE IMMIGRANTS THERE AND I WILL TELL U FROM NOW
a huge majority are from these tons and tell me if they will make any diff

karem al mouherr,
zgartagreen
ka7ef al malloul
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yes they are in thousands there and many are stillk have this romance about sg and lf ( BASS THESE PEOPLE VOTE IN DANNIYE LOL).
ban, bcharri hatchit and the rest of becharri kaza are also in thousands and they vote where ??? (BECHARRI).

remains a bit from few villages in zgharta kaza and zgharta itslef
kfersgabb, zgharta, etc... and in here the numbers are low.
as for koura, their migration is way more towards venezuela and usa and in there most ae HIGHLY EDUCATED AND I DO NOT BELEIVE sg people will ever botehr calling them LOLLLLL.
as for batroun, in here the numbers are a bit dicey,, but so far 14feb have no clear plan or strategy.
Hanna, what happen to wlad Ra7hbeh, no more in Nigeria!!!!

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AGAIN THE DANGER IF TEHRE IS ONE IS FROM THE GULF STATES.
Agree, the close proximity of these countries and the nature of the diaspora there make it the most fertile place to persuade voters.
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Here is where our outlook at the election in Lebanon diverges. Bad representatives are often elected because the good and hard-working citizens do not vote!! I refuse any financial or lavish incentive to buy my vote, my beliefs, that could one step ahead toward straighten the perverted and curvy path that has been imposed on Lebanon by its selfish politicians for long time. Yes, I still believe I am part of Lebanon, significant part of my sense of belonging can be sketched in every stone and corners of that place.

Shadow1, thank you for your understanding of the situation, eventhough something inside me doubt your seriousness about your proposal in the previous paragraph. I can understand your frustration with the Lebanese setup both politically and socially, though your vote is worth it to make change in the right direction. These politicians know no gesture, they expect service for every penney spent on a Lebanese citizens, home and abroad. Shadow1, once you offered your vote to the highest bidder, you will be registered/engraved for another round of utilization once the needs arise. Your whole entity will be confined to the bondage of voting slavery to corrupt politicians. and for what-hopefully not for just 30 Silver!! Indeed, voting is like a rifle, its usefulness depends on the characters of the user!!
Just because I package my ideas in a rather cynical frame does not mean that they lack sincerity or reflect my own substance. It's juts a question of style.

The difference between me and most is that I hold the base responsible for the mediocrity on t he top and hence I see no hope , at least in my life time, that the base will ever change. Therefore this being the case what is wrong with getting a little bit of benefit for onself when you know the whole country has no bright future ahead of it? Not only that I strongly believe the country has an absolutely miserable future ahead of it as it's made up of people with incompatible values and aspirations.

Just as you deemed the party you vouch for to be righteous and competent, there are people on the other side who are equally convinced that what their opponents believe in is absolute falsehood. And since it's a country made up of mainly one eyed people and one eared people so the seeds of its destruction are well embedded in it without me having to go into details or specifics.

The only real advantage I see the FPM as having over its opponents is that it has not been tried before and maybe there is some merits in what they believe in. However looking at it as part of a whole which I already determined in my mind that its chances of success are tenuous at best and Looking at what it allied itself with, whatever little hope I may have had is simply not there and hence the cynicism and the need to reap the benefit of any offer that may come my way regardless of any moral depth.

If you ask me for example would I sell my vote in the country I live in currently I would absolutely say no but each country has different standards and benchmarks and hence different approaches.
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JR, even if the loyalists are desperate, at least they acknowledging it and they are doing something about, regardless if we agree on their approach or not! On the side, inflated confidence could bubble and produce empty slogans. recent universities' elections are just minuscule samples of what might happen in the general election.

it is not about inflated confidence...paying money will "blow up" in their (loyalists) face...I will not explain why...I hope the news is true......but whoever in charge/came up with the idea of paying for tickets in geageaist/mustaqbal camp is a big idiot...remember this post
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