Daily OTV war on Al-Haririya el siyassiya

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by The Jade

On another note, I think that what OTV is doing is gonna backfire.

It's gonna make it look like they're looking for exclusive FPM viewers, which will destroy its credibility (that is already fragile).

It's true, Hariri media has been filthy for quite a long time, but as someone suggested here, making reports about the corruption for the past 15 years (INCLUDING EVERYONE) would be an indirect message and more people would listen to it

The independents are bombarded 24/7 by anti-FPM propaganda, we can not afford to waste time on indirect methods, the problem i have with this campaign is that it is a bit too late and not very coordinated with other FPM media outlets; someone has to pop the bubble loyalists have been living in; R. Hariri was not a saint, nor is his son.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by Jnoube

wow, man you should REALLY meet some people outside your christian neighborhood, they wont bite!

FYI, i am ethnically mixed, have loads of sunnis, shias, alaouites, few druze though. they all know my opnion and respect it.
at least i am honest about it, not try to hide it behind vague and lofty sentences.
on a personal basis they do not bite, but as a community dr..e have done the unthinkable to us. 1840.1860.ww1.1950s.1978.1986 etc...
FYI Zahle xtians community was completely wiped out ( genocide) by them, had to be repopulted 10 years later.
to sums it up: grow up and remove the tree that is blocking your eyesight.

[BOILER]

Originally Posted by The Jade

On another note, I think that what OTV is doing is gonna backfire.

It's gonna make it look like they're looking for exclusive FPM viewers, which will destroy its credibility (that is already fragile).

It's true, Hariri media has been filthy for quite a long time, but as someone suggested here, making reports about the corruption for the past 15 years (INCLUDING EVERYONE) would be an indirect message and more people would listen to it

Jade, the aim was to open a new page between all parties, and Otv wasn't going to act this way.
It's a reaction on the FM media.
Why should we attack berri and majlis eljanoub for example, amal and nbn is not spreading false propaganda against us.
yelli 3am bidi2 fina badna ndi2 fy!
As simple as that.

[The Jade]

Originally Posted by BOILER

Jade, the aim was to open a new page between all parties, and Otv wasn't going to act this way.
It's a reaction on the FM media.
Why should we attack berri and majlis eljanoub for example, amal and nbn is not spreading false propaganda against us.
yelli 3am bidi2 fina badna ndi2 fy!
As simple as that.

I got ur point, I undrestand why OTV is doing this.

What I'm trying to show is that it could backfire on OTV and the FPM.

1) It would show that OTV is SUPER BIASED (the others are too, but the OTV says that it's for all lebanese)

2) Attacking all these medias head-on when you're a newbie is not a very good idea, they have more experience and more money than anyone

3) If you open everyone's files, you'll get sympathy from everyone.
If you open LF files, the LFers will be mad, but Hezb, Amal even FM and PSP will be happy

Then u open FM files, the others will be laughing

And most importantly, the independants will see to it, that you're being fair with everyone, thus making them listen to u more often, and this is how u'll get ur message to these people.


What I'm proposing is a long term investment

[Jnoube]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

FYI, i am ethnically mixed, have loads of sunnis, shias, alaouites, few druze though. they all know my opnion and respect it.
at least i am honest about it, not try to hide it behind vague and lofty sentences.
on a personal basis they do not bite, but as a community dr..e have done the unthinkable to us. 1840.1860.ww1.1950s.1978.1986 etc...
FYI Zahle xtians community was completely wiped out ( genocide) by them, had to be repopulted 10 years later.
to sums it up: grow up and remove the tree that is blocking your eyesight.

it's not druze who did that to your community, it's KJ/WJ, the same as Christians war time leaders did the same to druze community, it was a civil war
that gives you no reason to hate the druze or to put them all at the same side
i'm not hiding behind anything, i just can differ between the bloody leaders and fellow lebanese that i have to learn how to live with for the sake of my country because i'm sure that it's only a small percentage of druze community that will respond to WJ halluciantion and contiribute in any upcoming civil war, the rest will be just defending themselfs and their childrens from attacks by the other side

you should really start believing that Lebanon belong to all of it's ppl, and if you want to open civil war files, no one is a saint.

[kappa273]

Originally Posted by EX-AOUNI NEW LEBANESE

when are they going to talk about hassan nassralah, nabih berri, omar karame, fathi yakan, oussama EL MASRI saad, we2am wahab, talal erslen, slaymen franjeye, michel el murr, ALI KANSO, EMIL LAHOUD, jassem kanso, 3adnan 3adoum, Nasser kandil, Nader Sekkar,Fayssal daoud, Elias ferzli... I hope soon, so I won't think it's a political daily video against people who left syria in 2004.

FPM is not opening everybody's files right now...the country is not in any condition to do that....

however, FPM has all the rights to respond to those who are attacking..

amazing... just look at the different method...
-Chaoul the alcoholic talking on behalf of hariri: Aoun is crazy, aoun is a sergent... in other words, no essence to his words... personal attacks with no political content

-FPM news outlet: exposing Hariri's exact position towards the syrians....
i am wondering if hariri EVER asked the syrians publically to leave Lebanon or at least to reorganize their troops...

kappa

[joseph_lubnan]

This is blatant TV propaganda. Congratulations OTV, here is another feather in your hat! And who was saying that OTV will be a "new kind of News outlet"? Does anyone remember on the forum? Time and again OTV has proven that it is just like the rest.
OTV has been discounted long ago, and continues to be discounted by its own choice of news programing.

[Agent Orange]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

This is blatant TV propaganda. Congratulations OTV, here is another feather in your hat! And who was saying that OTV will be a "new kind of News outlet"? Does anyone remember on the forum? Time and again OTV has proven that it is just like the rest.
OTV has been discounted long ago, and continues to be discounted by its own choice of news programing.

OTV is different, at least its spreading the truth unlike other media outlets.
Its sharing the history of one of our greatest martyr, or I should say the only martyr that Lebanon had. So whats the problem with that?
There is no propaganda in whats it doing. But the TRUTH hurts.

[kappa273]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

This is blatant TV propaganda. Congratulations OTV, here is another feather in your hat! And who was saying that OTV will be a "new kind of News outlet"? Does anyone remember on the forum? Time and again OTV has proven that it is just like the rest.
OTV has been discounted long ago, and continues to be discounted by its own choice of news programing.

where is the propaganda?

by revealing what hariri said in the past, you label it as propaganda?

i am interested in hearing your opinion in what OTV broadcasted?

he is labelled as staunch anti-syrian while he never dared to ask for repositioning of the syrian troops, not to mention that his best friend, Jacques Chirac once said in the lebanese parliament that the syrians are staying in lebanon until the resolution of all Middle East issues...

please enlighten me where the propaganda is here?

kappa

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by joseph_lubnan

This is blatant TV propaganda. Congratulations OTV, here is another feather in your hat! And who was saying that OTV will be a "new kind of News outlet"? Does anyone remember on the forum? Time and again OTV has proven that it is just like the rest.
OTV has been discounted long ago, and continues to be discounted by its own choice of news programing.

dear joseph,

that's very untrue. Propaganda is basically aimed towards manipulating the target audience without their suspicion; OTV declared before hand that they will be airing facts in self defense in an attempt to put a stop to the hariri media abuse. OTV is not like the rest, it is at least airing documented facts, with footage and video clips, it is not accusing Hariri of having performed plastic surgery to flatter his feminine side. At least OTV provided the Hariri controlled media with a way out of this whole media blunder, they rejected it, so they have to suffer the consequences, that's only fair.

that was a general comment from a general perspective. now i would like to make it a bit more personal and address you as a person. dont you find it a bit weird that you have remained silent during all the defamation attacks FPM and GMA have been subjected to, and at the first attempt FPM undertook to defend itself you jumped in crying what a foul play this is?

enough abou el zouz, please.