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Ya Muwatin,

This is not about just accusations and counter accusations, its about certain group crossing this line with their attacks and now there is no turning back.
GMA & FPM are attacked on daily bases by everyone, and be fair, unlike any other group. Enough is enough. Solutions to the problems will be discussed when there is a real gov representing the people of Lebanon.
who will put the real gov?
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who will put the real gov?
You & Me.
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All of this does can not deny 2 facts:

1. Syria is most improbably implicated in killing Hariri

2. Aoun after 2005 has convergence of interest with Syria and Syrian allies in Lebanon.

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and i cannot deny the fact that when i accuse of intelligence, i will be wrong...

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I think it would be better if OTV could focus on problems (corruption, bad decisions) that took place during the Haririan governance, tackling specific issues such as the electricity, the reconstruction costs, bad economic decisions (indebtedness...), corruption and mismanagement of public institutions...

I think the majority of Lebanese already know the relation of Hariri with the Syrians (at least those of a certain age), and probably that's an exhausted subject. Spotting the light on such issues would attract a wider audience, and of course, it's beneficial by itself as means for awareness (if prepared in a professional way).
the problem Mr Chafic, is that FPM/OTV/Sawt el Ghad and Co. have initially elected not to answer those idiots and to focus on constructive criticism...

and even after Hassan Sabra, the *******, attacked GMA's family in his useless pamphlet called shira3, GMA prosecuted him and didn't even respond to his allegations...

however, what Shaoul the alcoholic has written, goes beyond the minimal respect expected in public...
i know right now that Shaoul is not worth to spit at.

but there is a certain line where any response is allowed..

and let's give OTV some credit in that despite everything, their reportage tonight remained political..
they didn't deal with the fact that Saad hariri little brother runs a prostitutes network in France..
they didn't mention the stories published in BBC about his father selling his mother to the Saudi King..
they didn't mention the stories about him being a marijuana addict..
they didn't mention the many many stories involved even Nazeq hariri and briberies and corruption matters...

perhaps they are waiting for al mustahbal next step...

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[quote=Militant;730756]yes they had a good relation. the syrian army was in lebanon and RH couldnt do anything about it, i mean what would you have him do! launch a war against them ? your general tried it and he didnt last an hour.

question : why didn't you join our general in Liberation war ? you were afraid ?! ashamed ?!! or " 3omala ?

you have the option to call friend if you don't know the answer !

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yes they had a good relation. the syrian army was in lebanon and RH couldnt do anything about it, i mean what would you have him do! launch a war against them ? your general tried it and he didnt last an hour.

question : why didn't you join our general in Liberation war ? you were afraid ?! ashamed ?!! or " 3omala ?

you have the option to call friend if you don't know the answer !
Hi

I assume you didn't live the war in Lebanon, My friend His Excellency GMA declare war against foreign armies in Lebanon no matter who Israel or Syria BOTH should Leave Lebanon, 425 and 1559 caused both to leave in a WAY I know 425 didn't but 1559 worked against the Syrian Invaded Army.

In the mean time you mention in your Reply that GMA didnt last one hour against the Syrian Army, let us pretend that was true, we fought them for 2 years 1988-1990 and GMA prevented his soldiers to be butchered by Syria/psp/LF/Palestinians etc.....

GMA took the right Decision a Military reason to save us and hundreds others.


For Rafiq Haririr he was a Political Leader and he was an agent for the Syrian Army in Lebanon and now every body want to clean/clear his record against the Lebanese Citizens.

Who did Deported GMA from Lebanon, Who did Chase FPMR's all the years Hariri was PM in Lebanon!!!! Isn't his GOV + Syrian Agents!!!!?

any way my friend, you need to read more about GMA and other to be able to analyze the corrupted situation in Lebanon

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Ya Muwatin,

This is not about just accusations and counter accusations, its about certain group crossing this line with their attacks and now there is no turning back.
GMA & FPM are attacked on daily bases by everyone, and be fair, unlike any other group. Enough is enough. Solutions to the problems will be discussed when there is a real gov representing the people of Lebanon.
Agent Orange,

While I understand your frusturation, I still believe that FPM ought to act, not react.

If you believe that "solutions to the problems will be discussed when there is a real government" then why not resort to a win-win situation where OTV highlights the problems created by "Harrirism," expresses FPM's vision to how a "real" government ought to solve them, and then emphasize the fact that the current Cabinet has done nothing of that nature. This way, FPM scores on three counts. It will be retaliating to Harriri's media attacks, promoting its ideas among voters, and undermining the current so-called "government" even further by showing how far it is from being a "real" and effective one. In other words, using this approach you get not only two, but three birds, in one stone.

It has been said: "Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas." FPM is full of great minds, so forget Harriri and his people, focus on ideas.

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Agent Orange,

While I understand your frusturation, I still believe that FPM ought to act, not react.

If you believe that "solutions to the problems will be discussed when there is a real government" then why not resort to a win-win situation where OTV highlights the problems created by "Harrirism," expresses FPM's vision to how a "real" government ought to solve them, and then emphasize the fact that the current Cabinet has done nothing of that nature. This way, FPM scores on three counts. It will be retaliating to Harriri's media attacks, promoting its ideas among voters, and undermining the current so-called "government" even further by showing how far it is from being a "real" and effective one. In other words, using this approach you get not only two, but three birds, in one stone.

It has been said: "Small minds discuss people. Average minds discuss events. Great minds discuss ideas." FPM is full of great minds, so forget Harriri and his people, focus on ideas.

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You're right ! Hariri and Jumblatt on one side, and Aoun on another side, switched sides in their alliances. In politics, nothing surprises us anymore.
Who wasn't a Syrian puppet Sunny? you know the answer for this one...
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when are they going to talk about hassan nassralah, nabih berri, omar karame, fathi yakan, oussama EL MASRI saad, we2am wahab, talal erslen, slaymen franjeye, michel el murr, ALI KANSO, EMIL LAHOUD, jassem kanso, 3adnan 3adoum, Nasser kandil, Nader Sekkar,Fayssal daoud, Elias ferzli... I hope soon, so I won't think it's a political daily video against people who left syria in 2004.
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when are they going to talk about hassan nassralah, nabih berri, omar karame, fathi yakan, oussama EL MASRI saad, we2am wahab, talal erslen, slaymen franjeye, michel el murr, ALI KANSO, EMIL LAHOUD, jassem kanso, 3adnan 3adoum, Nasser kandil, Nader Sekkar,Fayssal daoud, Elias ferzli... I hope soon, so I won't think it's a political daily video against people who left syria in 2004.
Well u know the problem is not Syria anymore, the problem is with some group of people backed by saudi arabia working under the name 'Future Movement'.

Their plan is marginalizing the Christians .....from the Taef agreement todate....
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