Daily OTV war on Al-Haririya el siyassiya

[agnostic]

Thanks Observer for your one more valuable post.

I wonder if proHariri accept to disccus openly this issue. I am not against that some people beleive on wahhabism or what ever any faith.

However, no respectful state accept anymore that Saudi finance internal religious figures, mosques and organisations. Lebanese mosques have become more and more extremist, thanks to Saudi money.

Saudi always export corruption, prostitution, extremism and terrorism.

[blueblooded]

Most of Lebanese Sunnis follow al mazhab al shafi3i , which is the most moderate of all islamic sects , wahhabis are hanbalis , there is a major difference between them .
and about credibility , again , am not talking about security council , am talking about UN .
what about human rights department which issued an article criticizing the detention of "dobat 4" , or what about the mass destruction weapon in iraq , which UN never said they exist ...

[blueblooded]

Originally Posted by agnostic

Thanks Observer for your one more valuable post.

I wonder if proHariri accept to disccus openly this issue. I am not against that some people beleive on wahhabism or what ever any faith.

However, no respectful state accept anymore that Saudi finance internal religious figures, mosques and organisations. Lebanese mosques have become more and more extremist, thanks to Saudi money.

Saudi always export corruption, prostitution, extremism and terrorism.

bass kif jama3ton ho !!

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

bass kif jama3ton ho !!

I think that observer challenged you on Wahabism BB.Might you be interested in answering him?

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

bass kif jama3ton ho !!

in Arab Gulf societies where:
- sex "repression" (don't know how to call it, when people can't see the face of women)
- human life and dignity aren't worth any value
- corruption is made legitimate (Bandar himself recognized that Al Saud have wasted 50 billion dollars)

Prostitution becomes de facto indispensable and a natural need to fill a gap. see the behavior of saudis out of their countries. for your information, wahhabi Ulema have issued a fatwa legalizing slavery. Contracts dealt with saudi are often (pour ne pas dire toujours) signed in casino and cabarets. so how could you be surprised about prostitution?

PS: Isn't saad hariri known to have been an official pimp for princes of al saud?

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

ok you are right , RH is the devil itself , what have you done to stop him from implementing his evil plan to dominate lebanon ?

where did I say any of this?

nothing !! and now you are crying about the 40 billion dollars which if you ask any respectable economist would tell you that they don't represent a real problem for lebanon , don't go far , see what demianous kattar thinks about the debt ,that we are able , if "a" government implemented a good economical plan to get over this problem in 5 years.

cute and funny. The 40 billion $ debt is not a big problem for Lebanon? LOL.

As for Deminaos Kattar, I happen to agree with him, still this doesn't justify RH entering us in this huge debt. Even more, I believe most of the debt can be wiped out immediately bc it is internal, and the lebanese banks have gained billions of dollars out of loaning the lebanese state, so I think there could be soem way to consider the debt to these banks paid. There is also the issue of the illegal resorts by the sea. Settling this file would give the lebanese state an income of a few billion $. And let's not forget Solidere. That would return about 10 billion $ or more.

and for the 15 years , you missed , 3 wars (civil , 93 , 96) and you say 1.5 millions ? can you provide with your source ?

huh? the main reason behind the immigration during those past 15 years were the syrian occupation and oppression, and RH's disastrous economical plans.

And about the wars , am sorry , Aoun is the best man ever born on earth and i mean it so please now discuss reasonably what I've said concerning how the devil aka RH dealt with the syrians .

ok, whatever.

[Observer]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

Most of Lebanese Sunnis follow al mazhab al shafi3i , which is the most moderate of all islamic sects , wahhabis are hanbalis , there is a major difference between them .
and about credibility , again , am not talking about security council , am talking about UN .
what about human rights department which issued an article criticizing the detention of "dobat 4" , or what about the mass destruction weapon in iraq , which UN never said they exist ...

If this is your summary of the fight between moderate sunnis and wahhabism then you have no idea what is going on and it is no surprise that wahhabism is being spread and that it found a foothold in lebanon. No Mr blueblooded it is not an issue of shafi3i and hanbali where both existed for more than 1200 years with no conflicts because if the hanbali-shafi3i differences. it is really sad that you attribute extremism to Hanbalism. You know that the Imam of the Mathhab of Hanbali - Ahmad Ibn Hanbal - was jailed, beaten and almost killed while his students were waiting for one sign to revolt but he never ever allowed them to do any single act to destabilize the community. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond Hanbali-Shafi3i. DO know that.

[Abou Sandal]

Observer my friend,

Those Haririst are spoonfed since they were born that they are the most moderates muslims on earth,just because Hariri looks like a modern Europeen bussiness man

And they all sincerely believe it since they all dream to look like him,wearing nice suits with nice ties and putting lots (Too much?) of gel on their (often bald) heads.

So the way i see it,you are shocking BB right now.

[agnostic]

ProHariri are always available to make dissertation about HA. But when we ask them to discuss serious issues regarding the country, that concern them first, they disappear.

[Jean]

otv will stop the daily reportages unless if they FM's media will attack GMA again .

they just reminded of HA's statements in july war :

و إن عدتم عدنا و جعلنا جهنم للكافرين حصيرا