Daily OTV war on Al-Haririya el siyassiya

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by coralie

yi they didnt start yet ????????????? wein 3ayich ya LubnanALkawi on planet venus ? t3ich wet fou2 ! all they have is a good wild imagination mixed with a good sens of halusination ma3 rachit bad intention and a lot of hate the whole mixed will only produce a hollywood style LIES and more lies ! domage you have been missing the 14ers show for 3 years now !

well if thats all what they got huh! baleha a7san i admit that future tv propaganda show you the lie by lieng and that what most of tv stations do but the others do it in a smarter way now future tv is getting better with their propaganda

LBC, Manar are professional in fabracting stories

anyway all tv stations in Lebanon are same do u think otv is much better than future tv or Manar etc?

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

it is easy just take some words from the past in an interview before 2005
where he attacks Iran/Hezbollah

i can tell them to start with the Last Interview on MTV.... very interesting

it was either a lie or he was talking without any knowledge or he was telling the truth and he is lieing today

so in both cases it will be a lie :)

of course, if you are intent to see it from that perspective it will be a lie.

having seen the video(s) you are referring to; i can safely assure you that if you buy into it, you have a severe misconception of the reality of FPM.

1- we've had our severe differences with HA, if that wasn't the case there would have been no need for an MoU.
2- our goal was to find a way to disarm HA, and it was never to push the Lebanese into a new civil war
3- HA and FPM met halfway across the road by agreeing on a road map to disarm HA and turn the resistence into a lebanese one under the care of the Lebanese authorities.
4- HA agreed on a civil state
5- HA agreed on demarcating the borders with syria
6- HA agreed on restricting all relations with the syrians to the proper diplomatic channels under the Lebanese government.

so yes, we may have had plenty of differences in the past, but if one thinks for a second that FPMers will allow differences to turn into bloody wars to satisfy one's need for action or maybe a trauma one went through in the past, then rest assured it will never happen.

I personally strongly hope that we can extend the MoU to include all the major parties in Lebanon, but i have my doubts this is ever going to happen; the MoU was forged on integrity and honesty, two qualities that do not seem to be the main norm in the Lebanese political arena.

So if FM opts to play that video on air to highlight that contradiction, i can only feel sorry for those who would buy into it, just like i felt sorry for those trying to circulate it as an anti-FPM clip at the moment; because they are failing to see the big picture.

we've all paid a heavy price during the last war, and i dont think we want to pay it again, and if we can contribute towards easing things up, we will, but it has to be reciprocated.

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by Dark Angel

of course, if you are intent to see it from that perspective it will be a lie.

having seen the video(s) you are referring to; i can safely assure you that if you buy into it, you have a severe misconception of the reality of FPM.

1- we've had our severe differences with HA, if that wasn't the case there would have been no need for an MoU.
2- our goal was to find a way to disarm HA, and it was never to push the Lebanese into a new civil war
3- HA and FPM met halfway across the road by agreeing on a road map to disarm HA and turn the resistence into a lebanese one under the care of the Lebanese authorities.
4- HA agreed on a civil state
5- HA agreed on demarcating the borders with syria
6- HA agreed on restricting all relations with the syrians to the proper diplomatic channels under the Lebanese government.

so yes, we may have had plenty of differences in the past, but if one thinks for a second that FPMers will allow differences to turn into bloody wars to satisfy one's need for action or maybe a trauma one went through in the past, then rest assured it will never happen.

I personally strongly hope that we can extend the MoU to include all the major parties in Lebanon, but i have my doubts this is ever going to happen; the MoU was forged on integrity and honesty, two qualities that do not seem to be the main norm in the Lebane;)se political arena.

So if FM opts to play that video on air to highlight that contradiction, i can only feel sorry for those who would buy into it, just like i felt sorry for those trying to circulate it as an anti-FPM clip at the moment; because they are failing to see the big picture.

we've all paid a heavy price during the last war, and i dont think we want to pay it again, and if we can contribute towards easing things up, we will, but it has to be reciprocated.

in the interview he went far to say that hezbollah is ''7aras 7doud''
ok lets say he said that out of no knowledge he said it because at this time he was against hezbollah and know because he is with hezbollah he went far to say that Hezbollah decision is only Lebanese
when he said on this interview hezbollahs decision is from Tehran....

i will try to find this interview if i have it and post it for you...

im not saying anything about the MoU and it have nothing to do with the MoU
the question is do we need the MoU to speek out the truth or does it make us say a white lie

does it mean with out the MoU we lie? or does the MoU force us to have specific speech?

[Dark Angel]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

in the interview he went far to say that hezbollah is ''7aras 7doud''
ok lets say he said that out of no knowledge he said it because at this time he was against hezbollah and know because he is with hezbollah he went far to say that Hezbollah decision is only Lebanese
when he said on this interview hezbollahs decision is from Tehran....

i will try to find this interview if i have it and post it for you...

im not saying anything about the MoU and it have nothing to do with the MoU
the question is do we need the MoU to speek out the truth or does it make us say a white lie

does it mean with out the MoU we lie? or does the MoU force us to have specific speech?

no, it means that we try to find civil solutions to our differences, despite how far apart we may be at one given moment in time, we always try to find middle grounds espcially between Lebanese.

the point is not that it contrasts with the MoU, but it is totally the opposite, it leads to the MoU, because if there was no misunderstanding there would have been no motivation to find common grounds in order to reconciliate our differences.

[coralie]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

well if thats all what they got huh! baleha a7san i admit that future tv propaganda show you the lie by lieng and that what most of tv stations do but the others do it in a smarter way now future tv is getting better with their propaganda

LBC, Manar are professional in fabracting stories

anyway all tv stations in Lebanon are same do u think otv is much better than future tv or Manar etc?

yes it is . at least they are not fabricating stories they just point to the wrong well yes guilty as charged if denouncing the wrong is wrong !!!!!!
maybe lebanese minds became so mixed up that they are no longer able to make the diference ! this is a big problem this days !

[Danny Z]

Originally Posted by Militant

yes they had a good relation. the syrian army was in lebanon and RH couldnt do anything about it

Eh mni7 yalli met laken

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

and Yes we are not ashamed of our past , at least lebanon was back to the international scene , it was a country with great potential of economical and cultural growth , what was your contribution in building lebanon ?

1.5 million lebanese left Lebanon between 1990 and 2004. Also during these 15 years, Lebanon's debt rose to a whopping 40 billion $. And how can we forget Rafic Hariri doing every tiny thing Syria wished for?
That pretty much sums up RH's legacy! Nothing to be proud of IMO.

There was 4 ways of dealing with the Syrians :
1- Aoun way , fighting and scarifying your whole army and country without any hope of wining , if you recall , syria was given a green light to enter lebanon .
2- 8 March forces , excluding HA , whom they haven't any popular base and they had to depend on syrians to protect their political interests .
3- HA which had a strategical alliance with syria , backed by iran , trying to achieve his goal , like or not , to establish an islamic republic of lebanon
4- Rafik Harir way , who tried to deal with them , knowing that under the past circumstances , there is no way on earth to kick them out . He had a goal to reconstruct his country , to rebuild faith in a country called lebanon , that can , if left alone , be a message of peace and "dialogue" to the whole world . there is a famous arabic proverb that say : la takon kal l shajara iza atatha l ree7 inkasarat , bal kon ka sonbolat l kame7 , tota2te2o ra2saha wa tabka .

that hero RH. I did not knew that was his plan: accommodating every syrian demand for a greater Lebanon.

God bless him.

Let's please forget about the past and look toward our future , and let's stop the hate propaganda that it only have one goal , to build religious tension .

dude, easy on the hypocrisy and double standards. Have u ever looked in the mirror lately? better, have u even read ur very same post here where u unleashed ur hate against GMA ( "Aoun and his 2 destructive wars"- "thought as divine victories", remember?)

It is not the first propaganda done by FPM , you can recall the "islamization" before maten election , that had stopped the day after the election was over , and you can also recall fateh l islam being fund by FM , so please grow , lebanon is on his way to hell !! khloasna ba2a !!

These are not open and shut cases for u to claim they are propaganda.

Anyway, do u watch FTV? and do u approve of their news broadcasting? if so, u're the last person to talk about propaganda.

till when we will stay fighting each other watching lebanon , the country of freedom and mutual respect between its communities drawing !!

mutual respect? I take it u are against Shaoul's latest stunt then..... or not?

[Youchka]

March 14:
Today no Siyassiyah Haririya, given that the filthy Hariri media did not perform today what it does best, insulting.

A demain.

[CPT_Meghwar]

Originally Posted by Youchka

March 14:
Today no Siyassiyah Haririya, given that the filthy Hariri media did not perform today what it does best, insulting.

A demain.

خطاب جماعة 14 شباط
14 March 2008 (OTV)

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