Daily OTV war on Al-Haririya el siyassiya

[hannaalsayssa]

[quote=blueblooded;731790]2- 8 March forces , excluding HA , whom they haven't any popular base and they had to depend on syrians to protect their political interests .
Correct, Fpm.Marada. tashnak etc.. have no support because in your mind they are poor. Your people are like credit card they work when funded. it is alien to you the notion that political leaders are liked for their ideas and struggle only.
3- HA which had a strategical alliance with syria , backed by iran , trying to achieve his goal , like or not , to establish an islamic republic of lebanon .
Dracula took the alliance with syria to new heights, WJ even told his son taymour in 2004 when they received AHKhaddam in jabal , my son Syrai is our future and only hope.4-
Rafik Harir way , who tried to deal with them , knowing that under the
See how you mispelled allah la yerhamou name , goes to show your level and the FM supporters brain power.
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Lastly after finishing abusing everybody and calling us all sorts of names, they always say let us forget the past and looks towards the future.
what the nerves they have, the only future acceptable to us is the one without your FUTURE in it .
and we shall get there , remember MAR ELIAS MA3NA.

[DITOU]

Originally Posted by blueblooded

**** it !! you revealed the whole truth , what a significant hit to FM , really , i am impressed !
If you wanna talk about the files of the past 20 years , no one will be safe , especially Aoun and his 2 destructive war , that can be after reconsideration thought as divine victories !
and Yes we are not ashamed of our past , at least lebanon was back to the international scene , it was a country with great potential of economical and cultural growth , what was your contribution in building lebanon ?
There was 4 ways of dealing with the Syrians :
1- Aoun way , fighting and scarifying your whole army and country without any hope of wining , if you recall , syria was given a green light to enter lebanon .
2- 8 March forces , excluding HA , whom they haven't any popular base and they had to depend on syrians to protect their political interests .
3- HA which had a strategical alliance with syria , backed by iran , trying to achieve his goal , like or not , to establish an islamic republic of lebanon
4- Rafik Harir way , who tried to deal with them , knowing that under the past circumstances , there is no way on earth to kick them out . He had a goal to reconstruct his country , to rebuild faith in a country called lebanon , that can , if left alone , be a message of peace and "dialogue" to the whole world . there is a famous arabic proverb that say : la takon kal l shajara iza atatha l ree7 inkasarat , bal kon ka sonbolat l kame7 , tota2te2o ra2saha wa tabka .

Let's please forget about the past and look toward our future , and let's stop the hate propaganda that it only have one goal , to build religious tension .
It is not the first propaganda done by FPM , you can recall the "islamization" before maten election , that had stopped the day after the election was over , and you can also recall fateh l islam being fund by FM , so please grow , lebanon is on his way to hell !! khloasna ba2a !!
till when we will stay fighting each other watching lebanon , the country of freedom and mutual respect between its communities drawing !!

ohhhhh yes you built the bigest ***** house in the middle east with your blue blood $$$$$$$$$$$
the contribution of FPM was more then you can imagine while you do not feel shame of your past our past is eklil ghar on our proud heads , while you were collaborating with the opressor with no shame we were fighting peacefully to liberate OUR country , while you were bringing back Lebanon under syrian occupation on the international scene we were fighting to bring back liberty sovreinity and independence to Lebanon .
but when a person like you say it with pride that he is not ashamed of his crawling past a past of the worst kind of slavery calling it culture and reconstruction i do not think that with a mind like that we can reach any sort of mutual respect without shame you insulted us in the past you jailed us and tried to silence us and nothing has changed now your propaganda lying machine never stoped not for one second building tensions , religious divisions and hatred , look at you and tell me i am wrong ! for decades we have been taking your S**T and we never responded to your lowlevel "intellectual culture" NOW YOU WILL TASTE YOUR OWN POISON . DEAL WITH IT !
mutual respect ?????? do you even know the meaning of what you wrote ?

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by Diabolo_7

Tu ne dis pas

Tu pense que le CPL est la raison pour laquelle ces relations sont mauvaises?

y a pas une version de al mustahbal ou al shiraa on francais?

Originally Posted by Jerry

حسن
you are right , FPM does not want to cut it with any lebanese party . The question is do the other parties want the same ? if yes why don't they accept that the partner in the country will be partner in taking decisions for the country?

it seems you misunderstood me. hariri is a *****, in life and in politics. he respects no rule. however some inside FPM, for several reasons, thought that FPM shouldn't, what ever the price, lose hope of getting good relation or may be alliance with hariri. FPM have finally paid a price relatively high, thanks to hariri media war, for nothing in exchange. however, i beleive that the situation is reversible.

[ecce homo]

For those interested, here is a nice film:

http://www.artepro.com/programmes/50...esentation.htm

L'HOMME AUX SEMELLES D'OR

Le réalisateur, Omar Amiralay, rencontre Rafiq Hariri, riche entrepreneur libanais devenu premier ministre . Un film dérangeant et intelligent qui interroge le rapport de l'intellectuel à l'argent et au pouvoir.

Dans le Liban d'aujourd'hui, déchiré par des conflits confessionnels constants, écrasé par le poids de sa dette extérieure et désormais soumis au pouvoir de l'argent, la figure de Rafiq Hariri tient une place tout à fait singulière. "Sauveur" du pays pour certains, "fossoyeur" pour d'autres, cet homme d'affaires multimilliardaire propulsé sur la scène politique en 1992 (deux fois en tant que Premier ministre) suscite de nombreuses controverses.
Plus qu'un portrait, le documentaire témoigne, sur le mode du pamphlet ironique, de cette impossible et improbable rencontre entre l'intellectuel et le politicien. Appelé à la prudence par ses proches (et notamment par sa mère) quant à ses entretiens avec Hariri, Omar Amiralay sait la difficulté de sa tâche. Les premières images de son film situent l'action avec un rare talent cinématographique (un Beyrouth dévasté dont des ouvriers trient les déchets, une séquence où les gestes sont décomposés, les gros plans multipliés) pour ensuite tenter d'entrer dans le vif de l'entretien. Les premières approches sont infructueuses : dans son bureau luxueux surplombant Beyrouth, Hariri s'enferme dans le silence du pouvoir et n'en sort que pour exprimer sa méfiance. Puis, lors des deux entretiens, le cinéaste se met à l'épreuve avec sincérité et vit dans la peur de se laisser amadouer. Surpris par le charme et le côté sympathique de l'homme, Omar Amiralay oriente peu à peu son film sur sa propre déstabilisation, comme pour signifier son échec. Un échec qui s'avère finalement une réussite, tant cinématographique qu'intellectuelle. Car usant de son pouvoir de cinéaste, Amiralay parvient à détourner la situation à son avantage. De commentaires ironiques en questions insidieuses et en cadrages intelligents, il questionne nos préjugés, interroge le rapport de l'intellectuel au pouvoir (jusqu'où peut-on approcher en toute liberté le pouvoir ? comment préserver la juste distance critique ? qui manipule qui ?) et invite le spectateur à se méfier des images que les hommes politiques et les puissants se sont fait une profession de manipuler.

[agnostic]

shouldn't be also a similar war against the Batrak political stances?

[LubnanALkawi]

this is great

if OTV start with showing more facts on Hariris past
i hope the other side (future tv) start to show GMAs past wich was great but different from today

in this way both of them ''Bye3rdou Ghasilet Ba3doun''
let the people see that all the leaders in Lebanon stinks

[agnostic]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

this is great

if OTV start with showing more facts on Hariris past
i hope the other side (future tv) start to show GMAs past wich was great but different from today

in this way both of them ''Bye3rdou Ghasilet Ba3doun''
let the people see that all the leaders in Lebanon stinks

hariri already used all they could against GMA. they have no more bullets.

[coralie]

Originally Posted by LubnanALkawi

this is great

if OTV start with showing more facts on Hariris past
i hope the other side (future tv) start to show GMAs past wich was great but different from today

in this way both of them ''Bye3rdou Ghasilet Ba3doun''
let the people see that all the leaders in Lebanon stinks

yi they didnt start yet ????????????? wein 3ayich ya LubnanALkawi on planet venus ? t3ich wet fou2 ! all they have is a good wild imagination mixed with a good sens of halusination ma3 rachit bad intention and a lot of hate the whole mixed will only produce a hollywood style LIES and more lies ! domage you have been missing the 14ers show for 3 years now !

[LubnanALkawi]

Originally Posted by agnostic

hariri already used all they could against GMA. they have no more bullets.

it is easy just take some words from the past in an interview before 2005
where he attacks Iran/Hezbollah

i can tell them to start with the Last Interview on MTV.... very interesting

it was either a lie or he was talking without any knowledge or he was telling the truth and he is lieing today

so in both cases it will be a lie :)

[lebanese.tayyar]

the most they can say abt GMA: akhwat, 3asabe...other than that, they don't even dare saying!!!

where as if we wana talk abt them, their past present future, i don't think i'll find enough adjectives to describe them!

btw, i agree wid them, y is GMA angry??!! all they did is kill, rob, sell, r*pe, cheat the lebanese people and our rights for the past 15 years!! walaw GMA, y r u angry ma fi chi myehroz!!..... and we r proud to be lebanese???!!