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Leb_Rebel

Proactive instead of reactive.
WE , FPMers, were always used to being leaders, setting the pace while everyone was struggling behind us.While now, we wait to get bashed in the media and then wait for GMA to reply. I'm not going to say its a defensive attitude, because its more like rolling over and playing dead but waking up occasionally.

hannaalsayssa

do your bit without much noise
have a big heart.
have the ability to forgive and forget.
keep moving and focused on the real enemy.
HAVE HUMILITY

Revolution1989

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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

do your bit without much noise
have a big heart.
have the ability to forgive and forget.
keep moving and focused on the real enemy.
HAVE HUMILITY

I agree with all of the above but take issue with the red/bolded part.

My opinion is that positive energy and speech is always better than negative when you're trying to energize activists and ask them to invest their time into achieving something. You want to give them an objective and a deliverable that is achievable within a relatively short time frame (it can't be a 1 year horizon... They have to see earlier "wins" to keep them motivated).

It could be anything: October 13th could have been a great opportunity but any social, educational or environmental project could work

hannaalsayssa

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Originally Posted by Revolution1989

I agree with all of the above but take issue with the red/bolded part.

My opinion is that positive energy and speech is always better than negative when you're trying to energize activists and ask them to invest their time into achieving something. You want to give them an objective and a deliverable that is achievable within a relatively short time frame (it can't be a 1 year horizon... They have to see earlier "wins" to keep them motivated).

It could be anything: October 13th could have been a great opportunity but any social, educational or environmental project could work

you have a point
but do not underestimate the power of feeling oppressed and under threat.

like for me i can safely say 70% of my drive is the nightmare of al suniyye al seyaseyye ruling us.
so we need to have a major focus on a goal/s.
all political parties need some kind of ba3bab3 sometimes, let us be honest here.

Revolution1989

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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

you have a point
but do not underestimate the power of feeling oppressed and under threat.

like for me i can safely say 70% of my drive is the nightmare of al suniyye al seyaseyye ruling us.
so we need to have a major focus on a goal/s.
all political parties need some kind of ba3bab3 sometimes, let us be honest here.

Ok, but we're not talking about political parties. We're talking about activists... Leave the political "ta3bi'a" to the political parties and focus on "positive" projects

Also, this approach is a slippery slope (read les identites meurtrieres from Amin Maalouf)

hannaalsayssa

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Originally Posted by Revolution1989

Ok, but we're not talking about political parties. We're talking about activists... Leave the political "ta3bi'a" to the political parties and focus on "positive" projects

Also, this approach is a slippery slope (read les identites meurtrieres from Amin Maalouf)

I LOVE AMIN, especially his book the crusaders as seen by the arabs, read it, you will understand lebanon much better.

i am being honest here
what draws me to activism,etc.... was always my fear.
1989 GENERAL made a speech about this subject and that was it for me.

FPM has many commendable goals and i am sure each partisan have his/her own priority from this list.
that is why from day one on this forum, i always argued that THERE ARE MANY POINTS OF VIEW WITHIN FPM AND NO ONE CAN CLAIM his/hers are the best.

we need to pull our resources and try to reach as many goals as possible.
that is where the party hierrachy comes in play.
THEY NEED TO ASSIGN THESE GOALS AND PRIOTITIZE THEM so we can all pull in one direction.

we need to control a bit more the republican spirit ( free) within us and try to accentuate the TEAM WORK one.
we should question less the party decisions.
the lebanese syndrome of IKE ( i know everything) is at many instances destructive.

Qwiw

Between July and September 2009, a concours was launched by FPM Jezzine, RPL France and supported by Jezzine deputies, to call for projects about sustainable development in Jezzine.
Something like 25 projects were effectively proposed, studied and presented by 25 groups of young and/or innovative people. 5 of them were retained and will be implemented soon but I think nobody talked about it in this forum. While this is an action FPMers should be proud of!

So, the local comittee of a political party invited people to propose concretizing their own ideas. From a political party, we were finally reaching civil projects for all the people. This is the way FPM should always work.

I think FPMers are now too "politically minded" and more attracted by wasting their time with the usual unproductive daily political information/discussion than supporting/participating to such initiative. And the bad news there is that FPM medias (tayyar.org mainly) are encouraging FPMers maintaining high their level of unusefulness and unproductivity.

I want to ask to active forum members. What are you gaining from discussing about government formation or latest polemics about this or that. At the end, discussion or no discussion, we have no power to change the situation at the level of the government formation, nor any polemic served by our/their medias.

As Comrade Bassam said, we need actions. And thank God, we have the Orange Room which can help us organizing ourselves for such orientation.
Besides, we all have the power to produce something (civil projects) useful for our country. And for this, we all need time. Time is precious for producing... it should not be wasted anymore. This should be the first step.

For me, this is when the FPM base will give more importance to civil oriented actions (where we always were the best) instead of political ones, that FPM will be again attractive for common people.

Revolution1989

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I LOVE AMIN, especially his book the crusaders as seen by the arabs, read it, you will understand lebanon much better.

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I read it 10 years ago... as well as all his other books. My point is by playing up people's fears, reducing identity to a unique dimension (christian, sunni, LFer, etc.) and characterizing it as under threat, you bring up the worst in people (witness the Lebanese war, the Yugaslavian war)

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Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

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we need to pull our resources and try to reach as many goals as possible.
that is where the party hierrachy comes in play.
THEY NEED TO ASSIGN THESE GOALS AND PRIOTITIZE THEM so we can all pull in one direction.

we need to control a bit more the republican spirit ( free) within us and try to accentuate the TEAM WORK one.
.

It depends what we're talking about. We're not talking about the party actions, we're talking about the activists... by continuing to operate autonomously outside of the party they will be able to retain their freedom and maintain their "flame"... We don't have to direct them "top-down". If they're FPM activists, then we can safely assume that their objectives would be aligned with FPM's ideals and objectives