Convince me to vote for you (Possible future Q&A page) {PLEASE READ THE FIRST POST}

[X]

If this thread was executed properly, it may well become a Q&A page later on.

The idea is simple, i (X) will play the role of an independent, someone who hasn't made up his mind yet about whom to vote, your job is to convince me to vote for you. I will ask many questions that average Lebanese ask them to us these days.

Remember that your job is to gain my vote, not "tebkha3ouni". So any aggressive answers will simply make you lose my vote.

Another point, sometimes two people say the same thing, but one of them make it sound so bad, while the other make it sound so good. So even if someone else answered what you were going to answer, go ahead and answer yourself, your own words might be better than what the other person said.

There is no deadline for this thread, it might go on for some time, as i said, if it was successful, we will make a QA& out of it (picking the best answers). So if you read an answer that you really like, use the Thank You button to nominate it as one of the items in the Q&A.

I will personally moderate this thread, so all off-topic posts will be deleted.

Loyalists can also (try) to convince me to vote for them.

So let's start:

Why should i vote for FPM? Why should i vote for C&R? Why should i vote for the Opposition?

[Aoune]

I will take a jab at this as I feel that what you are doing X is awesome . This is exactly what the FPM should be doing and training the FPMers on how to answer both other FPMers and independants as well as February 14th.

With this said , I will try to be short . The FPM is a secular party and thus we believe in the seperation of Church / Mosque and State . Secularism does not mean atheism . It simply means that politics and religion don't mix. In a country like Lebanon were there are 17 communities living next to each other we need a political party like the FPM to lead the way. Of course Lebanon being a confessional democracy we may not be able to jump from this stage to secularism in a day and thus we believe that it is a process. This process should include the training of kids to Love Lebanon . If at anytime though we feel that a community whether it is the Sunni community, the Maronite etc... is being discrimnated it is the duty of the FPMer to stand by that community and defend it not because he belongs to that community but rather because injustice has been made.

Freedom : Freedom is not free. The FPM for the last 20 years has been at the beacon of the freedom of Lebanon. Whether when the FPM defended the press in the 90's and 2001 when it was under attack or when the students were not able to express their opinions in universities or when GMA was not able to be listened to on the airwaves of Leabense TV and thus FPMers would use any means to deliver his speeches from Paris to the Lebanese people . For that thousands went to jail for daring to dream about freedom. Of course the stand that the FPM took in August 7th was a day to remember for every Freedom Loving citizen in the Global village we live in. Of course this culminated on March 14th 2005 where the FPM was the engine behind the Revolution.

Independance : The FPM believes in the total independance of Lebanon. Lebanon gained its independance in 1943 but it was a fake one . More than one country had its eye on it. Some countries like Syria did not even recognize Lebanon. The FPM fought and will continue to fight for the indepedance of Lebanon whether inside of Lebanon when it sees that political parties are not taking the Nationalist route or outside of Lebanon when the independance of Lebanon is at stake. With this said we welcome the opeining of the Syrian embassy and the new ambassdor of Syria to Lebanon and we are eager to send our ambassador to Syria.

Sovereignity: The FPM wants a sovereign Lebanon where no part of Lebanon is under any foreign occupation. We will start with the Palestinian camps. We believe that the camps need to be completely cleaned out of all weapons from the hands of the Palestiniains. The Palestinains cannot and will not be allowed to roam the streets outside of their camps with arms nor will they be allowed to roam the streets inside of the camps with their arms. Their lives though will be improved and we will coordinate with the UN to make their lives more livable as we work to solve how they will be leaving Leabnon to either West Bank / Gaza or to another country of their choosing. Of course Israel occupies the Shebba farms and this has to be solved diplomatically with the UN taking a more aggressive policy to solve it and the Lebanese government putting more emphasis on that issue. Once the Shebaa farms are resolved Israel should withdraw from Lebanon and Lebanon would have regained its is full sovereignity after having reagined a partial sovereignity in May 2000 when Israel left the South and April 27th when the Syrians left.

There are a couple of issues that need to be sorted out as well . One the issue of the Lebanese prisoners in Syria and the Lebanese that are missing. Both of these are dear to every FPMer.

The FPM does not accept to divide Lebanon into cantons and wants a united Lebanon. The FPM wants to be a positive party in the Lebanese balance of power and does not see itself as part of the Opposition for the sake of being in the opposition. At times we will be opposed to the government and this would be because of constructive criticism on a particular issue that we do not see serves the interest of Lebanon and at times we will be voting for a particular issue because we feel that the issue is part of the raison d'etre of the FPM and fits in the policies of the FPM.



If you have any comments I will be more than willing to answer. Hope I'm winning your mind and your heart .

[freedom4ever]

Why should i vote for FPM? Why should i vote for C&R? Why should i vote for the Opposition?

Simply cuz FPM is the last fortress against the Hariristan invasion,

FPM and Opposition are your last chance in the republic of lebanon not in the Haririst Kingdom
thank you.

[Red Phoenix]

Why should i vote for FPM? Why should i vote for C&R? Why should i vote for the Opposition?

A vote for fpm is a vote for a cleaner, stable and more efficient future.

With a history of taking unselfish nationalistic decisions and a clean track record for all FPM candidates, if voted into legislative position a statistically successful future is almost certain if the required majority quota is achieved.

Your vote for fpm is a great investment for your wellbeing and that of your family, for fpm strives to find peaceful solutions to pending lebanese issues while keeping us all independent with our heads high throughout.

Internally, fpm stands for serious reform in the institution. A legislative vote will also get another fpm representative in an executive capacity to carry out these reforms which will in return yield better services for everyone.

Clean reformed secular efficiency is what fpm stands for, this is what your critical vote can help attain and achieve.

Most importantly, a vote for fpm is a vote for its political choices and internal management skills, it is not in any way a vote to curry more clientelism.

If you think that fpm, withstanding all negative media campaigns against it, is securing your future by adopting a responsible external policy and a clear cut mutual respectful internal policy coupled by a good will and capacity for institutional reform, then you should adamantly consider voting orange after you give it the proper thought.

Alternatives to fpm are indeed out there, but those alternatives to fpm have different goals and modus operandi which clash with the basic tenets that fpm stands in securing a free stable and successful future. Most strikingly apparent are those alternatives lack of any modicum of honesty when it comes to many of their supposed public positions on key political and reformist matters.

If anything, let the past history and actions of fpm help you get a better idea that fpm was, and will always be, clear cut about its options and at the forefront of defending your rights without compromising your national status and standings nor lying to you about it. And fpm is like this for everybody’s rights on a nationalistic level.

In short, fpm is simply from to people to the people, and when it comes to bringing true reform to Lebanon, every vote counts starting by yours. This is a mutual responsibility of choice and action that we all need to share together.

So thank you in advance if you vote orange, and whether you vote for fpm or not, a successful electoral result for fpm will bring good positive results for you and everyone else in the community equally because this is what we believe in and this is what we ultimately stand for.

So regards and remember, we’d love to see you vote orange :)

[Placebo]

You should vote with FPM and the opposition for so many reasons.

First off, all the rest of the lebanese parties had already had their chance in ruling us. and most of the time failed, not to mention that they killed us, stole from our money, made wars against us with the help of foreign neighbouring countries (syria, israel etc..), indebted us, and if we finally want the change that we need, we should at least get rid of them.

On the other hand, voting with the opposition will stop any possibility of nationalizing the palestinians in lebanon, which is the main objective of March 14th forces, as well as the U.S.A and of course Israel, (and the current palestinian administration) who will definitely dnt want half a million palestinians to go back to palestine.
It's not that we hate the palestinians on a racial basis, or even religious, quite the contrary, we are very symphatetic with all the atrocities they were going through for the past 5 decades, but it's just that lebanon doesnt have the capacity to even contain its own people.

Now you can ask me what is the role of the Loyalist Christians regarding this issue? enno they are also against the palestinian presence.

Well the 14th of feb christians dnt stand a chance against FPM if they are on their own. and they cant afford to lose such a worthy ally asthe Harriri family, who are supporting them and using them as a weapon against FPM. that's what they only care about. How to isolate and finish the FPM. and history had taught us that they do not stand for principles but rather for interests. so their main objective is not how to see the palestinians or even HA disarmed. what they only care about , and i repeat, is only to stand in the way of FPM, since it's the only real independent party in leb.

You might also ask me about HA weapons, who are definetly controversial and i agree with you. HA weapons must be sooner or later be handed to the lebanese army, but we shouldnt forget that HA weapons are a very big advantage in our bargaining with israel. without it we will probably have to settle everything according to it's rules.

on the regional level, the most dangerous neighbor is for me by far the Kingdom of Saudi arabia. It is the country that violated the most basic human rights standards. And it's the biggest exporter of terrorism worldwide. and the U.S. , the international community, everybody are not saying anything about KSA only because they are enjoying it's oil. they might talk about iran nowadays, but even though i agree that it is a theocracy that violated human rights, but it's still by far better than the KSA, even though everybody should know that FPM will never be affected by anybody, wether its syrian, iran, ksa, france, israel, anybody as our ethics and history prove.

these are the headlines, i would definitely go more into details with you, i hope u vote for the opposition in the following election, and most specifically for FPM, otherwise we wont be witnessing any change at all.

thank you.

[GMA forever]

Well for me my simple and only answer will be:

كما تكونون, يولى عليكم

If you choose to be bought, then you are not worth living in Freedom,
If you choose the ones who stole your money and your rights, you are not worth living in a reformed and changed Lebanon,
If you choose the ones who used to kill you and intimidate you, you are not worth living in a sovereign Lebanon,
If you choose the ones who used to offer the occupier the golden key of Beirut, you are not worth living in an independent Lebanon.

[†.)]

i haven't read the other's answer for not being repetetive and for that they don't affect mine.

1- FPM'S HISTORY :
i can't beleive in a person or vote for him without checking back his history.. was he against LEBANON ? was he against OTHERS LEBANESE (CHRISTIANS vs MUSLIMS vs DREUZ) ?

FPM have always been the defender of LEBANON .. with the BEST LEADER SOMEONE CAN HAVE = NOT only GMA'S personality but the FACT HE WAS A LEBANESE ARMY GENERAL! inlcuding all the combo of a GENERAL'S MENTALITY.

FPM have always been against the CORRUPTION !

FPM's history is out of "3amele OR 3oumoule ! "

FPM'S HISTORY IS OUT OF BLOOD!!!

2- OUR PRESENT :

C&R BLOCK have always been a well working block.. meetings every week and special meetings on occasions (car bombs,attacks etc..)

OUR MINISTERS are the best in this GOV : MR BASSIL is the best exemple MR AOUN and MR TABORIAN and MR ABOU JAMRA ...they are working real hard to REBUILT what OTHERS HAVE DESTROYED in the past!

GMA : is making a real stable SECURITY SITUATION IN LEBANON... Fighting the militia men (especially fate7 el eslam) HE WAS THE ONLY/FIRST who sent a letter to the U.N mr bankemoun ONE YEAR AGO telling him to make something to the growing MILITIA of Lebanon... HE WENT TO IRAN and going to SYRIA and waitting for the invitations from other REGIONAL COUNTRIES (when it's possible = israel would never invite him! KSA might not 2) to solve problems and make CHRISTIAN + MUSLIMS connections and stability...

I LL VOTE FOR NOT LETTING MY KIDS THINK OF LEAVING LEBANON :

I LL VOTE
MY ECONOMIE : our MINISTERS are working hard ... Corrupt people are thinking 10000 time before trying to do anything while we are here..

MY SECURITY : GMA common paper with HA .. GMA'S VISITS TO THE MIDDLE EAST ... FIGHTING THE "TAWTIN"

MY DIGNITY : especially MY VOTE'S HISTORY!

MY RIGHTS : WITHOUT a real good MAJLIS KADA2! and JUDGES AND LAWYERS LEBANON would never improve


3- FUTURE :

FPM and a MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MINISTERS would make me feel SAFE FOR MY FUTURE IN LEBANON ...and for the FUTURE OF MY KIDS! (for the reasons above)


FINALY : WE NEED YOUR VOTE to MAKE A CHANGE .. if your gonna VOTE FOR THE OLD PEOPLE YOU USED TO : U LL GET THE SAME OLD RESUTLS! YOU WANT A CHANGE ? GO FOR IT!

VOTE FPM! (so that your VOTE counts)
VOTE OTHERS! ( so that you count the days left for your children in Lebanon)

[sierra]

Why should you vote for C&R?
For one it is the biggest Christian parliamentary block and the second largest lead by a Christian in the country…
It would be wise after the past 17 years of boarder line political non-existence to keep it and hopefully grow it to become the LARGEST lead by a Christian for a change!

[Fakhr eddine 1618]

Originally Posted by X

Why should i vote for FPM? Why should i vote for C&R? Why should i vote for the Opposition?

Simply because our alternative is called Saad el Hariri, Jumblat and Samir Geagea

So let me be frank and straight forward,

50% of the people will vote FPM because they believe in FPM national choices

50% of the people will vote FPM because simply the alternative does not exist

I am among the first group, I guess you are from the second

[X]

Good start, but Q&As are usually short and straight to the point questions and answers, so i will start asking very simple questions and the answers should be to that questions only, and they should also be simple and easy to understand.

Here is my question:

- In 2005 I gave my vote to FPM because FPM promised me to change and to reform, 3 years has passed and i see no change and corruption in the country is almost the same if not more.

So why did FPM fail in changing and reforming? Why will FPM succeed in 2009 when it failed in 2005? (In Change and reform)