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I find it interesting that Hezbollah would already be preparing public opinion regarding this issue. No matter what its findings may be, the international tribunal is a good thing for Lebanon. It is certainly not perfect as nothing is, but it is also not politicized as some obvious propaganda camps would like people to believe.
what would you call mehlis, zaher siddiq. hossam hosam etc....?
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I find it interesting that Hezbollah would already be preparing public opinion regarding this issue. No matter what its findings may be, the international tribunal is a good thing for Lebanon. It is certainly not perfect as nothing is, but it is also not politicized as some obvious propaganda camps would like people to believe.
Since when does public opinion in Lebanon matter for anything? Whatever opinion one has today, He/she will continue to have irrespective of what the outcome of the tribunal is. The leaders would tell the people how to think (i.e their own version of the truth, what really did happen , National Enquirer style) and the majority will toe the leader's line. The truth is often subject to manipulation and interpretation anyhow.

In my opinion whhat HA should do if they are found to be the culprit ( though one should never underestimate what a great service Hariri's killing has been to Lebanon's freedom from syrian occupation), what they need to do then is blow up few MPs and the people will focus on the new martyrs and forget all about Hariri.

The country will still march on the road to perdition regardless.
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Has any of you ever wondered why the string of assassinations continued unabated for a long time then suddenly stopped at the time it did? Do you think it will start again? When might it start again?
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Has any of you ever wondered why the string of assassinations continued unabated for a long time then suddenly stopped at the time it did? Do you think it will start again? When might it start again?
about the tribunal,Just tell me:

why they stopped accusing Syria after its relation with the west became more wormy .

Now they are accusing HA because there is problems with Iran,
Just tell me whom they will accuse later?

Just tell me where is Melhs?(stepped away from Future TV nowadays?
Where Mohamed Zuher Alsidik?
Why 4 generals prisoned three years without evidence?
why 2 of the consultant of the tribunal worked before in Harriri related companies?
Why non of the judges who prisoned the general was investigated about their prisoning?
Why Syria commit crimes and she knows that it will be the 1st accused for the crime?

I wait answers for these from u and will go with u that it's Non-politicized tribunal?
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Has any of you ever wondered why the string of assassinations continued unabated for a long time then suddenly stopped at the time it did? Do you think it will start again? When might it start again?
Have you ever wondered why none of the LF or PSP MPs was targeted or assassinated? And please don't tell us that they were taking special precautions
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Has any of you ever wondered why the string of assassinations continued unabated for a long time then suddenly stopped at the time it did? Do you think it will start again? When might it start again?
Did you ever noticed that any assassination that have happened the next day M14 had a big move to do?

its like every assassination was like wood for the fire that HA in that time stayed evading so the country dont blow up.

But as always u dont notice :P
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Have you ever wondered why none of the LF or PSP MPs was targeted or assassinated? And please don't tell us that they were taking special precautions
and all M8 group
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I don't know how much informed you are, but few days before his assassination, George Hawi was still giving lectures and courses about resistance to HA officers. George Hawi was a great asset to HA, although few, resistance oblige, knew about the deepness of their relationship.

ps:Al Manar revealed those classified information by a little report and footage, aired a few months after the assassination.
GH wasn't against the resistance. He formed a resistance against israel before HA exists. I'll not go into this subject but the relation between GH and HA must be analyzed on the last 20 years.

Note that GH was the only one who could reunite the leftist and was respected by many communists and specially those who are working today with HA.
We will leave this subject for another time and another thread. The priority now is for the international tribunal.

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As to my opinion about en eventual HA accusation of killing Hariri...To hell with the international tribunal and to whatever it can come up with. This institution has no credibility whatsoever and the mere idea of a non Lebanese court, mingling in Lebanese affairs is enough for me not to respect it, because it breaches my sovereignty.

This is where i differ with FPM and HA and everyone else. To me, the international tribunal in itself is neither legal nor legitimate.

It's an insult.
I totally agree ! It's a huge insult !
For me the UN and all international organizations are not legal nor legitimate.
However, we must take control of our country that we will not need anymore such organzations.
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about the tribunal,Just tell me:

why they stopped accusing Syria after its relation with the west became more wormy .

Now they are accusing HA because there is problems with Iran,
Just tell me whom they will accuse later?

Just tell me where is Melhs?(stepped away from Future TV nowadays?
Where Mohamed Zuher Alsidik?
Why 4 generals prisoned three years without evidence?
why 2 of the consultant of the tribunal worked before in Harriri related companies?
Why non of the judges who prisoned the general was investigated about their prisoning?
Why Syria commit crimes and she knows that it will be the 1st accused for the crime?

I wait answers for these from u and will go with u that it's Non-politicized tribunal?
we didnt stop accusing syria... we know syria is guilty of the assassinations in lebanon since 1970

we are not accusing Hezbo, and we hope he has nothing to do with it all. its just rumors that Hezbo people might have been involved. i repeat, we all hope its not true

Melhis is where ever he wishes to be

Zuher Alsidik is related to the investigation, its none of my business to ask about his whereabouts

The 4 generals were suspects, and coz of their high ranked position in the army and the intelligence, they had to be arrested so that the investigation can work correctly
they are not declared innocent by the investigators, but until now their is not sufficient proves against them

Syria commits crimes coz that is the only things syria knows how to do
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they are not declared innocent by the investigators, but until now their is not sufficient proves against them
Innocent, until proven guilty.

It's not guilty, until proven innocent, or else we'd all be in jail, and waiting to get out. This logic that you're using is flawed.

Have they been proven guilty? if not, then they are innocent, until, proven guitly.

If they have been released from jail, what does that mean? that they are innocent, or, they have no evidence against them, to keep them in jail.

It's either your logic is flawed, or your knowledge of the law is extremely poor.
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