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I didn't say accused, i said a suspect !!
GH and any strong leftist leader is a threat for HA more than any other person or party !!
I don't need to go into this subject because i 'll be off topic.

Please don't consider me as anti-HA arms or anti resistance. In my opinion, HA arms is a must to face the terror of the israeli state.
I think that FPM must defend this arms no matter what !!

However, i am convinced that HA had something with GH assasination or at least was informed. But i think that such issues must postponed and one day they will pay for it !
In fact it is the logic that i'm questioning. i don't judge you as a pro or anti anyone (which you have the complete right to do).
in this context, GH is a "threat" to HA just as much any political side in this country is a threat to the others... there were never been particular tension between the HA as a party and GH as a leader or political opponent.
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Its a political game guys, get over it....wala investigations wala proof wala ballout!!
we will never know who really killed Kennedy, we will never know who really killed Morijjos in Panama, and we will never know who killed Rafic elhariri...
yelli matloub houweh rass HA...in any way...july war, internal mini civil wars (may 7) that could have led to a new Taef where all arms are handed over (disarming HA), and now its the tribunal card theyr playing...
I expect the tribunal to accuse HA, i really do expect it...so prepare urselves...
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If the IT says that HA was involved in the killing of hariri, I bet him with all his money if he will go in public and say "HA killed my father".
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If the IT says that HA was involved in the killing of hariri, I bet him with all his money if he will go in public and say "HA killed my father".
you dont have all his money to make this bet :)
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you dont have all his money to make this bet :)
I bet him without having his money, Hariri is coward you will see his in KSA the 1st day in such a convictions , watching the acid rain pouring on lebanon.
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you dont have all his money to make this bet :)
of course

one needs to be a thief to accumulate such amounts.
so sad that yu guys are proud wa man tfanssou be mesreyat others who are ill gotten from our back and our kids future.
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I didn't say accused, i said a suspect !!
GH and any strong leftist leader is a threat for HA more than any other person or party !!
I don't need to go into this subject because i 'll be off topic.

Please don't consider me as anti-HA arms or anti resistance. In my opinion, HA arms is a must to face the terror of the israeli state.
I think that FPM must defend this arms no matter what !!

However, i am convinced that HA had something with GH assasination or at least was informed. But i think that such issues must be postponed and one day they will pay for it if they are guilty!
I don't know how much informed you are, but few days before his assassination, George Hawi was still giving lectures and courses about resistance to HA officers. George Hawi was a great asset to HA, although few, resistance oblige, knew about the deepness of their relationship.

ps:Al Manar revealed those classified information by a little report and footage, aired a few months after the assassination.

As to my opinion about en eventual HA accusation of killing Hariri...To hell with the international tribunal and to whatever it can come up with. This institution has no credibility whatsoever and the mere idea of a non Lebanese court, mingling in Lebanese affairs is enough for me not to respect it, because it breaches my sovereignty.

This is where i differ with FPM and HA and everyone else. To me, the international tribunal in itself is neither legal nor legitimate.

It's an insult.
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I don't know how much informed you are, but few days before his assassination, George Hawi was still giving lectures and courses about resistance to HA officers. George Hawi was a great asset to HA, although few, resistance oblige, knew about the deepness of their relationship.

ps:Al Manar revealed those classified information by a little report and footage, aired a few months after the assassination.

As to my opinion about en eventual HA accusation of killing Hariri...To hell with the international tribunal and to whatever it can come up with. This institution has no credibility whatsoever and the mere idea of a non Lebanese court, mingling in Lebanese affairs is enough for me not to respect it, because it breaches my sovereignty.

This is where i differ with FPM and HA and everyone else. To me, the international tribunal in itself is neither legal nor legitimate.

It's an insult.
I don't disagree with the sovereignty thingy, but they can't accuse anyone without proof, it is actually stupid to think that they can frame hezbolla or anybody for that matter. They can hide proof ok i agree but it is not for granted that any tribunal anywhere can glue proofs to somebody innocent. You are a lawyer and you know it, we are talking about La Haye not Riyadh types of tribunals.
The US with all its might could not even make a case against Iraq before invading it. Fabricating evidence only works in third world country tribunals.
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I find it interesting that Hezbollah would already be preparing public opinion regarding this issue. No matter what its findings may be, the international tribunal is a good thing for Lebanon. It is certainly not perfect as nothing is, but it is also not politicized as some obvious propaganda camps would like people to believe.
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I find it interesting that Hezbollah would already be preparing public opinion regarding this issue. No matter what its findings may be, the international tribunal is a good thing for Lebanon. It is certainly not perfect as nothing is, but it is also not politicized as some obvious propaganda camps would like people to believe.
It is not? why did Mehlis order the arrest of the four generals?
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