Christians In Irak!!!

[J_Raad1450]

1000's of Saudis are fighting the infields in Iraq....and you are still wondering who's behind all of this!

[mehdi soldier]

Originally Posted by Saladin

bi alf kheir w 3afiyeh.iran is a country of more than 70m people,with many religions and sects.not like saudi arabia which recognizes itself as 100% muslims,yet 20% of that 100% are considered heretics and "rafida" and ofcourse "majous".


No, their religious figuers are getting followed, arrested and some executed. Many sunni areas dont have a masjid anymore. Lek some arabs were even arrested for celebrating eed on tuesday.

no my friend,they were not and will never be persecuted because they are sunni.there are many sunni masjids in iran,unlike saudi arabia where a shia is not even allowed to lead prayers.those arabs you are talking about are not sunnis,they are shia themselves.lets not generalize every arab as sunnis.its become very upsetting to even see the wahhabi generalization spread to lebanon that every shia is persian,majous or iranian (that is not arab).they are deliberating doing this in order to falsify a notion and indoctrinate ignorant people that shia islam is an alien product from persia and its majousy people;and has nothing to do with the arabs or islam or mecca and medina.what a shame!!!

KSA is a victim of ben ladens attacks in several occasions. And their war against ben laden is more efficeint than that of the US, they have managed to rid their country with these cells of terrorism.

they have only done that with the help of the american bases to oppress their people.to be honest i believe that if a referendum or a poll is to be freely and fairly conducted among saudis,bin laden would be voted for as more popular than their king.it is the saudi regime that has being so-called victims of al qaeeda.al qaeda and the regime are two faces of the same coin of oppression.

Habeebe if it werent for iraqi sunnis, or al sa7awat el iraqeyye, iraq would've been ruled by al qaeda. Its the iraqi sunnis who stood against al qaeda and ridded iraq of these terrorists, well at least most of them.

How?they turned against al qaeeda because they woke up and saw the threats and dangers it poses against their nation and building of a strong country.they saw the dangers of extremism by the wahhabi fanatic from across the borders.

Good, so you do acknowledge the iranian interference and support to shii militias in iraq.

these are no militias.they are civil defense groups and resistance movements.i wont call them militias per se,even though their activities would look militia-like due to individual or isolate actions by some ilitrate men.

[J_Raad1450]

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they have only done that with the help of the american bases to oppress their people.to be honest i believe that if a referendum or a poll is to be freely and fairly conducted among saudis,bin laden would be voted for as more popular than their king.it is the saudi regime that has being so-called victims of al qaeeda.al qaeda and the regime are two faces of the same coin of oppression.

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Excellent point...

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by banadoura

what are you talking about???? Are you crazyyy

It seems that you need dramatics for your message to come across, fair enough..

Originally Posted by banadoura

Where didnt we show our support to any human cause???

Who we?

Originally Posted by banadoura

Where didnt we show our support for the palestinians, i just remind you that 750 000 palestinians are living in lebanon in the name of palestinian cause...

Originally Posted by coralie

the lebanese have been supporting and deffending the palestinian cause for more then 60 years and we payed the price pfffft for doing so akalneha bel 3ati2a . de2it bi 3aynak if we raise our voice or do a simple act of support for the Iraqui christians ?

I specifically mentioned the Palestinians in Gaza today, furthermore I could have mentioned the Arab minorities in Ahwaz Iran, the Shiite minorities of Yemen, the Berber minorities of Algeria or the Kurd minorities of Turkey/Syria.

Originally Posted by banadoura

And if we dont say anything about whats happening towards the christians in irak it could happen to the christian in another country were they are minority, they willl think its halal to do this!!!!

That's the crux of your argument, don't go running left or right when that is what you want to push across.

[Abufijli]

Lets bring them to Lebanon and give them Lebanese citizenship.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by Abufijli

Lets bring them to Lebanon and give them Lebanese citizenship.

And why would we do that?

[taifoon]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

Had I power ya Taifoon (the stars haven't been on my side), i would've united all the countries of the Middle East under one dictator and "forced" all to defend and support all against any aggression from "outside". And whoever refuses to support will be executed on the spot. Beautiful dream. But alas, you have divided land and divided people; and they will always be like that. So, just move away from them all to a lost island somewhere on earth and relax for the short years that you have left. Why are we born? This is probably a more important topic to discuss than what is happening in the Middle East.

I think you have already found your lost island ya Dalzi, but now we're talking. Seeking happiness maybe? I was just watching a documentary about Pakistan. An american journalist was on a trip through the country by train. He was reporting his different encounters with different people and groups of people on that train.

One group of true fanatics had this to tell him: " Our ultimate happiness on earth comes when we see all the kouffar of mankind converted to true Muslims, because then we'll know we have brought them the highest happiness their hearts can ever experience.." To this, the reporter replied: " But what if I happen to be much satisfied and happy with what I am now, and refuse to convert?".. To which the leader of the group replies:" Then you will have to forgive us if we find ourselves obliged to force Allah's will upon you, through Jihad. This might make you sad for a starter, but happier later, although that's not important. More important is the fact that Allah will then be fully satisfied and happy "

So apparently, for some we're put forward only to please someone else.

[taifoon]

Saladin, by your standards ( and to sort out this issue with abufijli and mehdi) how would you categorize a country in which people who are caught with a crucifix or a bible on them, are spanked/whipped or banned? Your opinion counts.

[Saladin]

Originally Posted by taifoon

Saladin, by your standards ( and to sort out this issue with abufijli and mehdi) how would you categorize a country in which people who are caught with a crucifix or a bible on them, are spanked/whipped or banned? Your opinion counts.

I'm against all kinds of ethnic cleansing, and I condemn such behaviour. Those who are practicing it in the name of Islam are causing more damage to the Image of this religion.

[Youchka]

We hear everywhere, including Amine Gemayel today, that there is a plan to kick them out from iraq. Great, now whose plan is it exactly? Sorry I am confused, a plan should have a planner, who is the planner who wants to kick out the Christians from Iraq? Ya reit hadan bi khaberna.