Christian loyalists, the never ending hypocrisy and the masters of lies

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by LebanonUSA

How is Lebanon a Christian state?!? What about the Shiites and Sunnis who make up >50% of the Lebanese population (not counting the additional 600,000 Palestinians who will fortify the Sunni population the next couple of years).

Get it out of your mind. Lebanon does not start at Barbara and end in Kfarshima and never will. It's this kind of dumb attitude that put us Maronites (or ex-Maronite in my case) in trouble in the first place.

In case you did not notice, the opening phrase of FIDS' reply was, "Without Prejudice", clearly to illustrate, marginalising the Shiite's, Sunni's, or any other religious faction is not the intent of such reply. Comprehension and respect of such phrase from potential readers was anticipated by FIDS.

What is meant by "Lebanon as a Christian State", is that, it is the only Middle Eastern (Arab) Country with a Christian Head of State (Presidency). Not to mention the democracy that exists in Lebanon in comparison to the Arab Middle East at the very least.

True, the Christians in Lebanon have decreased in number, although, why don't you ask yourself why such has taken effect. Take a small hint; A human being commits to marital relationship with one partner and not many or many simultaneously, thus, vastly controlling the number of births. In any event, fortunately the strength of the Lebanese Christians is not only in the hands of those residing in Lebanon; (but of course, less one ex-Maronite).

Rest assure; the geographical, political, and religious boundaries of Lebanon are all very apparent to FIDS amongst many, hence; the everlasting refusal by the wide spectrum of Lebanese Christians in granting Palestinians the Citizenship.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by FIDS

In case you did not notice, the opening phrase of FIDS' reply was, "Without Prejudice", clearly to illustrate, marginalising the Shiite's, Sunni's, or any other religious faction is not the intent of such reply. Comprehension and respect of such phrase from potential readers was anticipated by FIDS.

What is meant by "Lebanon as a Christian State", is that, it is the only Middle Eastern (Arab) Country with a Christian Head of State (Presidency). Not to mention the democracy that exists in Lebanon in comparison to the Arab Middle East at the very least.

True, the Christians in Lebanon have decreased in number, although, why don't you ask yourself why such has taken effect. Take a small hint; A human being commits to marital relationship with one partner and not many or many simultaneously, thus, vastly controlling the number of births. In any event, fortunately the strength of the Lebanese Christians is not only in the hands of those residing in Lebanon; (but of course, less one ex-Maronite).

Rest assure; the geographical, political, and religious boundaries of Lebanon are all very apparent to FIDS amongst many, hence; the everlasting refusal by the wide spectrum of Lebanese Christians in granting Palestinians the Citizenship.

FIDS

I Hannaalsayysa ,and rejects your arguments and reasoning as relics of a long bygone era.

people and societies need to progress and think outside the parameters,
especially parameters that brought distress ,war and tragedies.

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

FIDS

I Hannaalsayysa ,and rejects your arguments and reasoning as relics of a long bygone era.

people and societies need to progress and think outside the parameters,
especially parameters that brought distress ,war and tragedies.

Hannaalsayssa,

First and foremost, your rejection retains no basis.

Now, one only needs to conduct a search on facts and figures of population growth almost anywhere around the globe to realize that which was stated by FIDS depicts realities of today, and not "relics of a bygone era" as you so wisely stated.

In fact, if ever international interference with Lebanon ends, especially from surrounding Arab A_ _ H_ _ _ Regimes, rest assure the Lebanese are more than capable of re-defining the term PROGRESS in every respect.

Further; there is no need to elaborate on how distress, war, and tragedy cast upon Lebanon since the 1950's, given; history clearly identifies the major Arab States primarily as the initial and main contributing factors.

The question is; why all such concentration on Lebanon and not Dubai, Qatar, U.A.E.,or their like? Well, the most apparent answer is clearly the fact Lebanon is the only country in the region that remains with an essence of Christian Ruling (the Presidency and Head of the Armed Forces).

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by FIDS

Hannaalsayssa,

First and foremost, your rejection retains no basis.

Now, one only needs to conduct a search on facts and figures of population growth almost anywhere around the globe to realize that which was stated by FIDS depicts realities of today, and not "relics of a bygone era" as you so wisely stated.

In fact, if ever international interference with Lebanon ends, especially from surrounding Arab A_ _ H_ _ _ Regimes, rest assure the Lebanese are more than capable of re-defining the term PROGRESS in every respect.

Further; there is no need to elaborate on how distress, war, and tragedy cast upon Lebanon since the 1950's, given; history clearly identifies the major Arab States primarily as the initial and main contributing factors.
The question is; why all such concentration on Lebanon and not Dubai, Qatar, U.A.E.,or their like? Well, the most apparent answer is clearly the fact Lebanon is the only country in the region that remains with an essence of Christian Ruling (the Presidency and Head of the Armed Forces).

when the christians and especially the maronites got this country, they failed to rule it.

reasons varies but we share 70% of the blame.no need for details.

today we are at this crossroad, we can either live in the past or try to make the best of our present.

being poetic wont bring back fake glories nor does assigning blames will ameliorate our situation.

yes the arab countries are a major drag but it is possible to mitigate their bad influence.

sadly the rot is from within ( our community as well as others).
your line of thinking failed us in the past and will surely does in the future.

[cleo]

Originally Posted by Youchka

Those marionettes Nayla Tueini, Sami Gemayel, Nadim Gemayel, Pharaon, all LF MPs, Michel Murr......... tabaloulna dineyna about the protection fo the president's rights and position, about how the FPM was here to weaken that position, about how they want yraj3o salahiyet el raiss......

Today, GMA is putting them face to face with a challenge, maybe the last chance of actually doing what they, those liars were preaching.

GMA is asking them to actually give the guarantee of the government, the telt el damen to the president, in a way that will never be played with in the future, in a way that won't be affected by who the president is or who the opponent parties are, TO PUT THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION?

From where I stand, I do not see any better way actually to give back the little we could give to the president to have him have a real role in this country, I do not see a better way to show the will of actually WANTING to restore some of those rights, instead of just BABBLING about it.

What are those cowards waiting for to actually put pressure on their allies to get this for the president, so we could say, once in our lifetime and theirs that they made a good deed for their country and the people they represent?
What is the excuse for not doing it now before it is too late?

Where is the wise voice of the Batrak, that crippled minded old guy who never ever thought in a way to benefit Christians whether short or long run?

Where are those voices, the protectors of the Christian rights? Isn't that position, the presidency, the only thing left for those Christians in this country? Why not strengthen it by action and not by silly posters on the streets?

I need answers, I need to know WHY THIS ISSUE IS NOT RAISED BY EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN MP IN THIS PARLIAMENT, AND WHY ARE THOSE LOYALIST MPS SILENT ABOUT IT?

i have a suggestion to the patriarch:
فليعلن البطرك انه لا يريد اي مسيحي ان يشارك في الحكومة الا اذا اعطي الرئس الثلث وذلك بالطريقة يللي قالها جنرال عون اي مكرسة بالدستور ولنشاهد البلبلة عند كل الكذٌابين يللي فاقونا بالأنتخابات من البطرك وجر ويمكن وقتها بيفهم الرئيس كمان مين عن جد يريد ان يرد للرئاسة حقوقها او هيبتها

[MockingBird]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

when the christians and especially the maronites got this country, they failed to rule it.

reasons varies but we share 70% of the blame.no need for details.

today we are at this crossroad, we can either live in the past or try to make the best of our present.

being poetic wont bring back fake glories nor does assigning blames will ameliorate our situation.

yes the arab countries are a major drag but it is possible to mitigate their bad influence.

sadly the rot is from within ( our community as well as others).
your line of thinking failed us in the past and will surely does in the future.

FPM is at a crossroad
either they continue covering the HA weapons and fail heavily in 2013
65% to 50% to 35% in 2013
or they wake up and save what's left

[General]

Originally Posted by MockingBird

FPM is at a crossroad
either they continue covering the HA weapons and fail heavily in 2013
65% to 50% to 35% in 2013
or they wake up and save what's left

Lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllll

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by coralie

some members failed to understand the request of FPM regarding the presidency powers/rights/representation, either because they still want to sell us their machiavelic lies over and over again or because they simply do not know what is the right thing to do , both ways they are showing how shallow they are .

FPM and GMA are asking to restore the president's rights but not heik 3al mechi they are asking this to be done the proper way = a text clear and spcific in the constitution .

this is the only way to preserve these rights on the long run and not let them be subject to a season political mood . lyom badna na3ti bokra toz 3aleh !

Coralie;

Such matters not, when honest Lebanese are dealing with a herd of animals attempting the role of Shepard. These animals retain no respect toward the Lebanese Constitution nor any agreement they may seemingly partake, given; they will simply refute anything of the kind when such no longer serves their objectives.

People of Lebanon; cease waisting time, orchestrate a revolution, extradite all Arab trash/other rejects interfering in Lebanon's affairs, so you may finally achieve Freedom, Independence, Democracy, and the Sovereign Country you so deserve.

Oh! and get rid of that idiot Saad.

[King Rami]

Originally Posted by MockingBird

FPM is at a crossroad
either they continue covering the HA weapons and fail heavily in 2013
65% to 50% to 35% in 2013
or they wake up and save what's left

أحسنــــــــــــــــــــــت
that's why FPM won what remains of something that used to be called Christian areas.

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by hannaalsayssa

when the christians and especially the maronites got this country, they failed to rule it.

reasons varies but we share 70% of the blame.no need for details.

today we are at this crossroad, we can either live in the past or try to make the best of our present.

being poetic wont bring back fake glories nor does assigning blames will ameliorate our situation.

yes the arab countries are a major drag but it is possible to mitigate their bad influence.

sadly the rot is from within ( our community as well as others).
your line of thinking failed us in the past and will surely does in the future.

Hannaalsayssa,

Immediately since departure of the French in 1945, exposure of Lebanon to potential dangers from surrounding Arab vultures became apparent.

For over 60 years to date, Lebanese Christians (Maronites above all) have been fending offending regional forces. During these years, especially most recently, the collective Arab Front against the Christians of Lebanon has been joined by certain Western Criminal Regimes.

Effectively, the above classification would certainly be categorized as the World against the Christians of Lebanon. Despite such reality, these Christians have reasonably maintained just rule of Lebanon. Based on such platform, and in contrast with elements of your literature, failure cannot be registered upon Lebanese Christians in their ability to rule the country.

Cast no percentage of blame upon the Christians, given; the circumstances inflicted upon them by the Muslims of Lebanon and the regional Arab Regimes has been far beyond what others might have been able to withstand. In so far as alternatives for the Christians, such rapidly diminished with the interference of Arab Regimes facilitated by certain Lebanese Muslims working toward the elimination of Christian Lebanon.

For many years the Christians of Lebanon have exhausted all avenues to reason with this Muslim aggression without success, certainly not for lack of compromise with opponents, whether national, regional, and/or international, but sheer reality, the aim of Middle Eastern Arab Regimes is to ultimately rid Lebanon of any Christian Powers, hence, their exercise in the process of eradication and/or elimination.

Finally, the Christians of Lebanon must unite each other, and in consolidation with those alike across the globe, re-assert the number one position of power in an effective manner without compromise, given; the Christians are faced with no alternative in dealing with aggressors of such nature.

"Unite For A Successfull Fight."