Christian loyalists, the never ending hypocrisy and the masters of lies

[hannaalsayssa]

there is an easy solution at hand that will solve all our prickly issues,
from 1/3 to president being elected , to to...

MAJLESS AL SHOUYOUKH. ( each sect elects its own representatives) and the parliaments ceases to be divided by sect.

so for certain laws we need both the shouyoukh and parliament to ratify.

this way if the pandas elect properly they will get the veto power that ssafegurad them, if not they have ONLY themselves to blame.
wa nou2ta 3al saterr.

alas, they chose to ignore the only good point in the taef agreement.

[cleo]

Originally Posted by Youchka

Those marionettes Nayla Tueini, Sami Gemayel, Nadim Gemayel, Pharaon, all LF MPs, Michel Murr......... tabaloulna dineyna about the protection fo the president's rights and position, about how the FPM was here to weaken that position, about how they want yraj3o salahiyet el raiss......

Today, GMA is putting them face to face with a challenge, maybe the last chance of actually doing what they, those liars were preaching.

GMA is asking them to actually give the guarantee of the government, the telt el damen to the president, in a way that will never be played with in the future, in a way that won't be affected by who the president is or who the opponent parties are, TO PUT THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION?

From where I stand, I do not see any better way actually to give back the little we could give to the president to have him have a real role in this country, I do not see a better way to show the will of actually WANTING to restore some of those rights, instead of just BABBLING about it.

What are those cowards waiting for to actually put pressure on their allies to get this for the president, so we could say, once in our lifetime and theirs that they made a good deed for their country and the people they represent?
What is the excuse for not doing it now before it is too late?

Where is the wise voice of the Batrak, that crippled minded old guy who never ever thought in a way to benefit Christians whether short or long run?

Where are those voices, the protectors of the Christian rights? Isn't that position, the presidency, the only thing left for those Christians in this country? Why not strengthen it by action and not by silly posters on the streets?

I need answers, I need to know WHY THIS ISSUE IS NOT RAISED BY EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN MP IN THIS PARLIAMENT, AND WHY ARE THOSE LOYALIST MPS SILENT ABOUT IT?

walla i think its all FPM's fault.
they dont know how to market the faults of their foes
they should keep on organising and shouting and screaming as if we r still in an elections campaign .the billboards should not stop the televisions should not stop.if the new parliament members cant do the shouting bkz they should adopt a new approach then they should give big roles in the media to others who failed the elections.
they should take any such subject like the protection of the president and go into the street ask the people,go on tv with the LF representatives and ask for answers.and do exactly like what their tv's does.has anyone noticed the guys on tv how the cross examine anyone from the FPM?they ask one question (and i am sad to say the always the FPM's representative cant express themselves)and they keep on asking that same question over and over exactly like the whole time of the interview.
anyway the christian loyalist are very good in lying
the FPM's media or whatever u call it the propaganda machine maybe is very bad in showing their lies

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by LebDocNCali

I don't like what you wrote, but I have to agree with you. It is the begining of the end for Lebanon as we once knew it.

I hate what I wrote but that's how I currently see things... We (Christians) reap what we sow.

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by LebDocNCali

I don't like what you wrote, but I have to agree with you. It is the begining of the end for Lebanon as we once knew it.

For 'thousands' of years foreign forces from all over the globe have attempted to overtake Lebanon without success. Once again we currently witness another attempt of the kind, although, such predators fail to understand; Lebanon as the Christian State is here to stay.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by FIDS

For 'thousands' of years foreign forces from all over the globe have attempted to overtake Lebanon without success. Once again we currently witness another attempt of the kind, although, such predators fail to understand; Lebanon as the Christian State is here to stay.

i have to disagree with you.

this time they are not using invasion tactics as much as demographic change.

the latter is more permanent and durable.

[FIDS]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

I personally believe that the Maronites do not deserve a constituionally empowered president. They should thank their lucky stars that they still have that seat, along with Army commander, and half the parliament (for Christians). If you ask me, they are already pampered more than they deserve.

"Without Prejudice"

Clearly you fail to understand....the Maronites are the sole reason Lebanon today is a Christian State, so, kindly re-assess your personal beliefs, and remember, opinions only carry weight coming from valuable contributors.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by FIDS

"Without Prejudice"

Clearly you fail to understand....the Maronites are the sole reason Lebanon today is a Christian State, so, kindly re-assess your personal beliefs, and remember, opinions only carry weight coming from valuable contributors.

Sykes/Pico is the sole reason of what Lebanon is today...

[LebanonUSA]

Originally Posted by FIDS

"Without Prejudice"

Clearly you fail to understand....the Maronites are the sole reason Lebanon today is a Christian State, so, kindly re-assess your personal beliefs, and remember, opinions only carry weight coming from valuable contributors.

How is Lebanon a Christian state?!? What about the Shiites and Sunnis who make up >50% of the Lebanese population (not counting the additional 600,000 Palestinians who will fortify the Sunni population the next couple of years).

Get it out of your mind. Lebanon does not start at Barbara and end in Kfarshima and never will. It's this kind of dumb attitude that put us Maronites (or ex-Maronite in my case) in trouble in the first place.

[hannaalsayssa]

Originally Posted by Venom

Sykes/Pico is the sole reason of what Lebanon is today...

and what a costly mistake...


it is the insane chauvinistic attitude of the collective maronite psyche that got us where we are today.we never deserved that still birth of a nation.

penny wise pound fools.

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Shuyu3i

I think we should actually give the president 5 or above. Lets see what he can do or is he all talk?

No problem there, this is what we want, but we wanted it done the right way, the LONG TERM way, and not just because we want to give the president the FPM's share, as it happened in the elections.

Did you hear Geagea yesterday, he said that the president's strength is not to be only specified by number of ministers he gets, as if Geagea is trying to run away from giving the president from his share.

So NO, we are not for giving the president from our share just to have FPM weakened, we are to give the president from everyone's share to have the president stronger.