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At first, I loved the Idea, but after reading all these posts, I changed my mind...
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Hey how about we invest in cocaine, Heroin and other drug plants ??

These could create jobs and would get a lot of money to our country.


This is a ridiculous assessment of the situation. There is no plus value other than creating 50 000 jobs (most of them temporary).

Jobs that could be created somewhere else with less investments.

This is destroying our ecosystem and Lebanon's natural beauty.
That's the problem with us lebanese, we want fast solutions, right here, right now, and we don't think about the future of our country..


This is sad, I really hope this project gets stopped ASAP
This will cause more tourists will pour into lebanon. This is considered an added value in a country whose entire economy is based on tourism and services.

Anyway, our coastal line is already contaminated with fuel and diapers, as I mentioned earlier, so I dont see the harm in this project(assuming its harmful).
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why do i feel so stupid liking this project?!? everyone in here is like "NO" and I'm like why not lol!!

I have one problem the khalejiye must not buy anything in it like houses or anything! it should be Lebanese 100% w saad l harire also can not buy half of it! the same way his father did with solider! he destroyed people's houses! and stole the money!! w ba3den half of our trees got burned last year! before they plan to built a "fake" cedar let them fix what was gone first!

I may change my mind! but now I find it interesting!
Our economy thrives on tourism, All are welcome .
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It is pathetic to hear them babbling about this project being environmentally friendly, that it would be great for the economy, that it will create jobs, that there will be schools, hospitals, churches and Mosqs!

Like someone mentioned, there has already been the Marina Dbayeh disaster. Knowing Lebanon very well, such a project will either not see the day, or it will only be half done, with everything good of it thrown in the garbage!

You can forget the schools, hospitals and other social aspects of this project. You can forget the added value it will bring to our economy: it will only fill the hands of a very few, it will make the rest of the lands very expensive, and the jobs created will be mostly filled by foreigners! There is no greenish aspect for this project, it will damage our coastline and the marine life, and it will devastate so many mountains...

I am 100% against this project!
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This will cause more tourists will pour into lebanon. This is considered an added value in a country whose entire economy is based on tourism and services.

Anyway, our coastal line is already contaminated with fuel and diapers, as I mentioned earlier, so I dont see the harm in this project(assuming its harmful).
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i recommend u to watch

CNN: 21ST FEB 2009. 19:00 GMT ...

it will answer many of your questions...
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People who have mixed feelings or feel positively about this project should visit the Palm Island in Dubai. Believe me, after wiffing up 5 minutes of stagnant sea water, you will curse damnation upon the idiot mind that concocted this idea.

The young entrepeneur who's behind this project should be much more creative. The investment capital that can be raised for this project can be used for a much safer and eco-friendly enterprise.

If this Cedar Island does see the light of day, which it most probably won't, it will be one of the biggest wastes of private funding in the history of our nation.
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I'm glad to see so much public awareness on the environmental impacts of such a project.

I also want to direct your attention to another potential project that seems much more realistic. A lot of property has already been purchased. IMO, this one will have much more environmental impact than the cedarisland project due to location, altitude and environmental sensitivity.

This project is: Sannine Zenith

The seems to be no solution other than the one put in by FPM to limit foreign ownership, nothing to do with the environment, but will hopefully curb some of its appeal and naturally reduce its size to meet only local demand.....until we have a decent Ministry of the Environment with real jurisdiction to assess such projects....hopefully during my lifetime.
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This will cause more tourists will pour into lebanon. This is considered an added value in a country whose entire economy is based on tourism and services.

Anyway, our coastal line is already contaminated with fuel and diapers, as I mentioned earlier, so I dont see the harm in this project(assuming its harmful).
Exactly. Isn't it the plan some people had for Lebanon?

A sort of Leisure Resort for Arabs to come drink alcohol and get laid.

A sort of luxury Hotel we're they can come n' buy apartments in order to spend the holiday season.

A sort of company property of a businessman who twisted laws and seized every potent factor in the economy so that his little financial kingdom can flourish.

I must admit, this guy was brilliant in business.

However, each one of us has a natural right to express his own opinion when it comes to supporting this vision of Lebanon or not. And it must be respected!

One should feel free to chose if he wants to turn his country into a Strip Clubs Complex or not. Others however can oppose it.

For instance, those others might find that Lebanon is maybe a little bit more than that. They might think that this country has HUGE assets that can by far more effectively revive and heal our dying economy. And that on solid bases.

Assets like it's CULTURE, it's landscape, it's 6'000 years history, it's cuisine, it's advancement in the medical and research fields. The level of it's universities. Arts, music, the list goes on very far..

But hey, it's a personal choice.

And although I have no doubt on the first people's intentions. But one might just be missing the fact that places like Dubai that have none of the assets listed are just spending enormous sums (and that on stupid & useless projects) with the purpose of getting some attention. That they are, but isn't our dear country a little bit more than that? Isn't it a bit more than an amusement park built on a sandy desert?
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I did some quick calculations, here are some facts to keep things in perspective, size does matter :

Proposed Cedarisland area: 3.4 square km
Proposed Zenith-Sannine Project area: 50 square km
Beirut Area: 20 square km
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Exactly. Isn't it the plan some people had for Lebanon?

A sort of Leisure Resort for Arabs to come drink alcohol and get laid.

A sort of luxury Hotel we're they can come n' buy apartments in order to spend the holiday season.

A sort of company property of a businessman who twisted laws and seized every potent factor in the economy so that his little financial kingdom can flourish.

I must admit, this guy was brilliant in business.

However, each one of us has a natural right to express his own opinion when it comes to supporting this vision of Lebanon or not. And it must be respected!

One should feel free to chose if he wants to turn his country into a Strip Clubs Complex or not. Others however can oppose it.

For instance, those others might find that Lebanon is maybe a little bit more than that. They might think that this country has HUGE assets that can by far more effectively revive and heal our dying economy. And that on solid bases.

Assets like it's CULTURE, it's landscape, it's 6'000 years history, it's cuisine, it's advancement in the medical and research fields. The level of it's universities. Arts, music, the list goes on very far..

But hey, it's a personal choice.

And although I have no doubt on the first people's intentions. But one might just be missing the fact that places like Dubai that have none of the assets listed are just spending enormous sums (and that on stupid & useless projects) with the purpose of getting some attention. That they are, but isn't our dear country a little bit more than that? Isn't it a bit more than an amusement park built on a sandy desert?
Where have I disrespected others opinion? We are just debating and giving different perspectives regarding this project.

And I do realize the various fields in which Lebanon is superior over other Arab countries. But this doesnt change the fact that HUGE investments and projects are more than welcome in Lebanon despite their environmental drawbacks on the coast line that is already neglected and contaminated.

Anyway, it's also just a personal choice.
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