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Default 28th January 2009

On second thought, the project could really be a blockbuster. Just think we can have our very own Lebanese Venice with its own sewrage channels. With a little bit of imagination we could design uniquely lebanese looking Gondolas with special hats for the skippers and lanterns, teach them how to play the guitar to serenade the tourists from the gulf plus the Lebanese nouveau riche who would simply adore tackiness.

Who knows this project might really be an improvement on the hideous development littering the coastal area and be a splendid playground for the tasteless pompous class.

What I find very strange about the project is the location itself. A couple of miles to the North you have the largest garbage dump in Lebanon and a couple miles to the South you will have what is expected to be the largest garbage dump in Lebanon and between them slotted those million dollar pads for the rich and semi famous glitterati of Lebanese society.

How would these people feel knowing that they are surrounded by toxic land and only a stonethrow away from slums? I suppose they woundn't mind once they know they will be swimming and holidaying in their own excrements and feeding on fish that fed on them.
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Default 28th January 2009

This project is an abomination.We have such a beautiful natural and quiet piece of coastline in Damour,and someone wants to kill it,just to make it look like a tree from an airplane.

Besides,

It is already bad enough that Geagea is polluting the area over there with his big posters and billboards.

With this project,we will have him and all kind of weirdos and GOC rushing to the area,claiming that their "raison d'etre" is to defend that "unique" and "special", maybe "holy" Cedar.

No thanks.
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be sure that this will all be followed by the thickening of the wave breakers around the cedar.

then thre'll be another cedar off the coast of batroun shaped liek a kataeb cedar.

then another off the coast of beirut in the shape of the sun in that wierd central-asian-ish-flag of future movement

and on.... and on...

10 years from now you'll be able to walk to cyprus
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On second thought, the project could really be a blockbuster. Just think we can have our very own Lebanese Venice with its own sewrage channels. With a little bit of imagination we could design uniquely lebanese looking Gondolas with special hats for the skippers and lanterns, teach them how to play the guitar to serenade the tourists from the gulf plus the Lebanese nouveau riche who would simply adore tackiness.

Who knows this project might really be an improvement on the hideous development littering the coastal area and be a splendid playground for the tasteless pompous class.

What I find very strange about the project is the location itself. A couple of miles to the North you have the largest garbage dump in Lebanon and a couple miles to the South you will have what is expected to be the largest garbage dump in Lebanon and between them slotted those million dollar pads for the rich and semi famous glitterati of Lebanese society.

How would these people feel knowing that they are surrounded by toxic land and only a stonethrow away from slums? I suppose they woundn't mind once they know they will be swimming and holidaying in their own excrements and feeding on fish that fed on them.
i love the last sentence : the food cycle
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This will be a disaster for Lebanon. Can you imagine how many "kassaret" will be in business to fill in the sea, not to mention the numerous studies that Lebanon is on the brink of a major earthquake in the future.

Whoever came up with this brilliant idea must be sent to jail immediately and where are our ministers and MPs? Where is FPM?! How can we remain silent on this? It's a catastrophe in the making
Actually itll be very good for the sea creatures I was watching the nat geo documentry on the world islands in Dubai, and they said that new sea creatures started popping up next to the island and made the islands thier habitat
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Actually itll be very good for the sea creatures I was watching the nat geo documentry on the world islands in Dubai, and they said that new sea creatures started popping up next to the island and made the islands thier habitat
And how on Earth is that a good thing!?!!

That's what also happened when "weird" mutant species started showing up around nuclear reactors as well

Anything "new" in an established ecohabitat has proven over and over to be an ecologic disaster; ask Australians what happened (still is happening) to their farms when they brought rabbits from England to Australia, what about the West Nile virus that spread all over N America in just a few years and endagering many bird species to near extinction, or the Asian Snakeheads that suddenly appeared and infested the Potomac River that is also causing indigenous species extinct?
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Actually itll be very good for the sea creatures I was watching the nat geo documentry on the world islands in Dubai, and they said that new sea creatures started popping up next to the island and made the islands thier habitat
i thought it was the British who wer making dubai thr habitat
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I'm totally against this project. To my knowledge, there are a bunch of ugly nouveau-riche looking, style-lacking development projects around Beirut recently, and I'm against most of them because:

1- the residents of the areas where these projects are being built have not been taken into account. no one has asked (or in fact ever asks) the neighbors in Lebanon before building something to distort the view they enjoyed for years. What about the locals? don't they mind?

2- I'm sure that building this thing, the environment will be affected negatively. After all, the people who are going to live on it will directly pollute the sea... for instance: where will the sewage go? (again, in Leb.. most of the time it goes straight to sea), what about these ppl throwing stuff in the sea?

3- it is U.G.L.Y and inconsistent with the environment of any region in Lebanon, the culture, the style.
we are not a desert that builds tower to be noticeable... we have a very special environment, climate, beaches, old building style that we should preserve instead of building eye-raping expensive projects that attempt to be modern but instead end up distorting modernization to ugliness.

4- what's in in for the Lebanese, really? people from the gulf are going to develop it, build it, live on it, and probably employ Indians to work for them, just like in Dubai. I really don't see how it creates 50,000 jobs for the Lebanese.

5- did I mention it's ugly and rapes our culture and shows that the Arabs would like to turn us into Dubai? since when is dubai something to follow aesthetically? if they have bad taste... then why do we let them practice it on our territory?

6- also, it's a big Arab statement saying "we don't care that you don't have any more space for us in Beirut, and that you really don't like us deep down.. but we don't care. we can buy our way out of it by building an island on your territory where we can live and take advantage of your climate and more lenient rules, and you will approve because we will shape it like a cedar".
At least, it's the message I get from it.

7- before going off with extravagant nouveau-riche taste projects that will not benefit the poorer class in our country, and may I note we have a pretty high unemployment rate there... we should take care of creating jobs, living spaces and opportunities there.

ever thought and contemplated about the social gaps in Lebanon? if they increase more we're surely going to head towards another political standstill and people will be unhappy and would want to protest.

let's pretend you're living in a wooden-like shack on the coast of 2ouza3i or anywhere towards Damour and u see this thing rising in front of u.. how would u feel? what would u do?

8- whomever said it attracts tourists is wrong. it will attract rich residents from the gulf, maybe... but tourists? tourists come to Lebanon for other reasons such as historical site seeing, nightlife, eco-tourism, cultural experience and so on.. not to sit in the middle of sea industrialism



FPM SHOULD TAKE A STAND AGAINST THIS PROJECT
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And how on Earth is that a good thing!?!!

That's what also happened when "weird" mutant species started showing up around nuclear reactors as well

Anything "new" in an established ecohabitat has proven over and over to be an ecologic disaster; ask Australians what happened (still is happening) to their farms when they brought rabbits from England to Australia, what about the West Nile virus that spread all over N America in just a few years and endagering many bird species to near extinction, or the Asian Snakeheads that suddenly appeared and infested the Potomac River that is also causing indigenous species extinct?


by New i meant that those species werent in that area before...
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1-Do you guys think the country can afford to have the high standards of environmental awareness you are asking?
2-Shouldnt jobs be the main issue here and as the country gets richer it can then afford to care for the environment?
3- Are expats living in developped country well eqquipped to pass a judgement on the project while the main concern of their counterparts in Lebanon is to have the basics of life first?
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