In case of a referendum, would you agree to give the refugees residence permits?

[TripolySunni]

"Poor Palestinians" is all I can say.

[dodzi]

Why not a permit? Lebanon have lots of foreign workers: Syrians, Egyptians, Sudanese, Srilankans, Indians, Philippinos... Why will we say no to the Palestinians?

Besides, they are ready to do jobs most Lebanese refuse...

However, new legislations should be done, and giving the job to a Lebanese should be given legal priority. Many things about work permits and legal workers rights should be reformed!

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by e.kid

Meanwhile, we are tired of living in a country at war

This is way different than saying:"We are tired of fighting"

Originally Posted by e.kid

we want peace, for us, for our brothers in the south (christian, druze, shiaa, sunni, ...)
we want peace for everybody, lebanease, syrian, palestinians, even israelis
We want to show what we can do in a country at peace after 40 years of war

And do you think that you are different from anyone else in this country?

Originally Posted by e.kid

is it dificult for you to understand ?

OK...Obviously, you do think that you are different from anyone else in this country.

Originally Posted by e.kid

are you also brainwashed ?

Yes absolutely and hopelessly.Can you deal with it?

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Libnene Qu7

You give your fellow Lebanese more credit than they deserve. I've seen plenty of non-Lebanese boots that are worth one thousand Lebanese.

Enno for sure! Wou you buy the one made in Hammoud Tower or the one out in Boston? (if they still make 'em)

Bass ejro la 'azghar libneneh btiswa malyon mish lebnenh.

Ever considered migration?

[YOSS]

How about having Israel allow them back home?

Wouldn't fighting to get them back home, also bring a sens of justice in the region, and clip Israel's wings a bit instead of people remaining bitter and having a future problem?

The world opinion today is against Israel. And, it's for a few reasons hence why they are very worried.

Extremists in Israel are not the money brewing type. While Israel was founded on the money brewing type.

The dummies money brewing type, assumed people to be stock to fill up land and achieve an objective. They fogot people do things for different reasons. Those who came to live in Israel, did so for both money & belief; Belief being key.

Today, the money brewers objectives suddenly are no longer compatible with those belief based interests, and they got a problem. A problem that also was accounted for in the Balfour Declaration. so today, those extremists wanna have their cake and eat it, and the money brewers who dealt with 'Balfour' have a problem.

Is this an opening to force some justice in?

[taifoon]

Armed Palestinians should be kicked out, or disarmed, peacefully or through force. This should be nonnegotiable and should not be related to Hizbollah's arms, the naturalization issue or the Palestinians half eternal conflict with the Israelis.

Naturalization and fundamental human civil rights are two different stories and it is in our interest to not correlate the two.

We have to treat the Palestinian Civilians like we treat other foreigners, and the same way we want the Lebanese diaspora to be treated in the hosting countries, humanly and with respect. Do we need to tailor special residence arrangements for those people in order to have a suitable solution to the human dimension of their stay? So be it. We could issue them a three years time-finite permit, to be renewed on regular basis, or whatever reasonable arrangement can be made.

As for their naturalization we've got to face it, there's only two possible ways we can solve it: Either get them back home over the dead bodies of the Israelis and Arabs, including native Palestinian inhabitants, or relocate them elsewhere on this vast planet.

I personally do not agree with Nasrallah and others on the declared and vowed commitment they swore, to help the Palestinians get back their homeland. Call me ego maniac, but I don't consider this as any obligation we should tie our fragile Lebanese backs to. Our primarily concern should be how to safeguard our own land, first and last. We're an all too dead-men-walking entity to shoulder on our weak axis such a risky mission. Moreover, when we do know for sure that pushing for the return of the Palestinians back to Palestine will have to happen over many dead bodies, mostly ours, I pass.

More reasonable is for us to simultaneously work on the eastern and western world to relieve us from this yoke we cannot bear. The smarts will even use the Israelis to push in the same direction. If, as heard many times, ALL Lebanese, including the Haririst community, are sincere in denouncing the Palestinians naturalization on our land, I already proposed the following on another thread:

Lobby the UN and the Arab league, mainly through the Europeans, Americans and Saudis to help Lebanon Palestinian refugees get absorbed in different western countries with demographic capacities to do so. Let the rich Arabs share the cost for that. I am sure the Israelis will also, directly or indirectly, support such plan and might even push their own strings for it. Does anyone doubt that the overwhelming majority among the poor Palestinian refugees will thank the almighty for such his, however late, longed for mercy that let them at last escape these forsaken altitudes?

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by taifoon

Armed Palestinians should be kicked out, or disarmed, peacefully or through force. This should be nonnegotiable and should not be related to Hizbollah's arms, the naturalization issue or the Palestinians half eternal conflict with the Israelis.

And what if HA is kinda helping Israel? I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying why are you asking to limit the defense strategy to them and others, but not the Palestinians arms who are primarily, to fight Israel, the very reason we are doing, a defense strategy?

Wouldn't it be like, losing some leverage?

[Dalzi]

None of the poll options.
The Palestinians should either return home or be taken to richer countries that can give them a better life. Lebanon is a mess and we can't fight for anyone and have nothing to offer anyone, not even our own people.

Originally Posted by M@rshall

NO and a 1000 NO my friend
I would never exchange the boot of a fellow Lebanese, be it LFer, FPMer, Kataeb,Amal, Hezbollah, PSP, SSNP... for a Palestinan, a Zimbabwean, a Swedish or an Australian.

Lebanon is for Us ...Lebanese only, and i guess we have welcomed those ungreatful Palestinians for more than our capacity...IT's THEM AND ONLY THEM WHO SHALL LEAVE.be it to heir homeland or somewhere else,because a nation without a memory is a dead nation,it seems they have tasted the goods of lebanon and never wanna leave.
i think its time to lobby worldwide to "return" or "repatriate" them.
but you saying that you would rather exvhange them for LFers i something I, Personally would totally refuse

regards

I would, I'd exchange the LF for mice.

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Dalzi

None of the poll options.
The Palestinians should either return home or be taken to richer countries that can give them a better life. Lebanon is a mess and we can't fight for anyone and have nothing to offer anyone, not even our own people.
I would, I'd exchange the LF for mice.

Lack of empathy & holism.

Glad HA has different approaches and mentality than the one you project.

Guess that was your way to wish them Season's Greetings...

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by YOSS

Lack of empathy & holism.

Glad HA has different approaches and mentality than the one you project.

Guess that was your way to wish them Season's Greetings...

All we could give is sympathy. I wish we were able to offer more.