In case of a referendum, would you agree to give the refugees residence permits?

[YOSS]

The refugee matter is being downplayed and trivialized, while it is the main point of conflict between us & Israel, and is a matter dear to every Lebanese.

The voice on this must be heard by the ones we are going to elect, and their 2 cents of how they will address this should be solicited.

How would you vote for this matter's resolution, and why?

Thank you.

[elhorr]

اقامة مؤقتة كماذا ؟ بأي صفة ؟
اذا كانو ا بصفة لاجئين فهم مقيمين بهذه الصفة و عندها لا داعي للسؤال
لكن اذا كانوا بصفة مواطنين اجانب فما هي الدولة التي يحملون مواطنيتها
اذا كانت الاجابة دولة فلسطين
لا يوجد واقعا دولة تحمل هذا الاسم
و اذا ما كانت ستوجد هكذا دولة بعد ما يسمى تسوية
فلا داعي عندها ان يبقوا هنا بصفة لاجئين .. اقيمت دولتهم فليذهبوا اليها طالما انهم ايدوا هذا الخيار و طالما قبلت هذه الدولة و هم قبلوا بجنسيتها و بالتالي بمواطنيتها

و لماذا يبقوا في الاساس هنا طالما ان دولتهم ستقام و كأن هذا البلذ مليء بفرص العمل و ثرواته الطبيعية هائلة
الجواب هو كلا .. لكن لست انا الذي يجب ان اعمل على اعادة ارضهم لهم ...الانسان لا يجب ان يتخلى عن ارضه فليحسنوا خياراتهم السياسية

[Red Phoenix]

what's the diff between option 2 and 3 ?

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

what's the diff between option 2 and 3 ?

Repatriated is move to other countries.
Return home is go to Palestine.

[YOSS]

Originally Posted by elhorr

اقامة مؤقتة كماذا ؟ بأي صفة ؟
اذا كانو ا بصفة لاجئين فهم مقيمين بهذه الصفة و عندها لا داعي للسؤال
لكن اذا كانوا بصفة مواطنين اجانب فما هي الدولة التي يحملون مواطنيتها
اذا كانت الاجابة دولة فلسطين
لا يوجد واقعا دولة تحمل هذا الاسم
و اذا ما كانت ستوجد هكذا دولة بعد ما يسمى تسوية
فلا داعي عندها ان يبقوا هنا بصفة لاجئين .. اقيمت دولتهم فليذهبوا اليها طالما انهم ايدوا هذا الخيار و طالما قبلت هذه الدولة و هم قبلوا بجنسيتها و بالتالي بمواطنيتها

و لماذا يبقوا في الاساس هنا طالما ان دولتهم ستقام و كأن هذا البلذ مليء بفرص العمل و ثرواته الطبيعية هائلة
الجواب هو كلا .. لكن لست انا الذي يجب ان اعمل على اعادة ارضهم لهم ...الانسان لا يجب ان يتخلى عن ارضه فليحسنوا خياراتهم السياسية

Residents permits - i.e no more refugee status and they become eligible to work, own property, etc. pretty much everything except vote.

[Greg Davis]

option 5

Deport the palestinian refugees to one or some of our affulent neigbouring islamic countries like the UAE, Quatar, Kuwait, Libya , Saudia Arabia, or Iran.

It would be a win win situation.

1- We are tired of fighting, and its time someone else had a go. We are the weakest militarily, so why should we be the permanant forefront of the Islamic resistance.

2- They can provide a better standard of living for their muslim brothers and sisters, who have been living in squaller for over half a century.

3- many of those countries have a high influx of migrants from all over the world to keep up with thier labour demands, so , by giving priority to their fellow palestinians, not only are they supporting their fellow arabs, but they are also reducing the demographic shift that is occuring in places like uae and quatar, where the bangladeshis, indians and pakistanis almost outnumber the local arabs.

It is the only viable and practical solution. All other solutions will be at the expence of the Lebanese people.

[LiNk]

Originally Posted by YOSS

Residents permits - i.e no more refugee status and they become eligible to work, own property, etc. pretty much everything except vote.

It means that they will be given a chance to start a life in Lebanon. It also means that 3rd generation will automatically get lebanese nationality.

It's just naturalization, but a few years later..

HELL NO.

[Red Phoenix]

any option that doesnt mean they will stay here is good for me.

going back to palestine should be great but really difficult for all of them to go back, plus i believe they should be offered something much better than this as an alternative for those who don't want to return to palestine.

such a monetary compensation and nationality in one of many countries of their choosing (lebanon not on the list of course)

i dont think all of them feel the urge to go live in the hell that is palestine if they can go somewhere else and get compensated for it. but at any rate, we need to see international offers, we need to see flexibility from israel and we need to see responsibility from the palestenians themselves. no one should force anything up on them. but this matter should be resolved. israel and the arabs have a lot of richs and connections that can be used to fix this instead of bombing the palestenians and starving them to death daily.

[Observer]

Since the Lfer hate the guts of the palestinians and since the LFer hate to be in the same place with palestinians and since the LF can not prevent anything and nobody gives a sh** about their demands, I suggest to exchange the palestinians with LF. i.e Palestinians in LFer out. I am a fierce opponent to naturalization whereas this issue will lead to them not going back to palestine and regain their stolen land but I am ready to accept naturalization if and only if in exchange for LFers leaving this country.

[Abou Sandal]

I like when some people say that they are tired of fighting while all they were ever good at is nagging.

In the meantime,those who are really fighting never ask or complain about anything.