biased school books in Lebanon

[coralie]

Originally Posted by sheikh

Practice what you preach people. Many here are hiding under the context of the law to push forward their poisonous so-called victimized agenda.

Before speaking of the law and condemning an act against the law (which, in fact, may be true; I'm not speaking about right or wrong here), you need to self-critique a little bit, look around you, and think for a moment. A bunch of outlaws speaking of the law to push their agendas. How's that for irony?

For the sake of argument, if the law meant anything for you, then why have you not abided by it on many occasions such as:
January 23 unrest
May 7 unrest
Weapon smuggling south of Litani River

Violating the freedoms of people is against the law.
Attacking private and public property is against the law. Intimidation through the use of force against Lebanese citizens is against the law. This is hate by itself.
Violating UNSCR 1701 is against Lebanese and international law.

And these are not the only examples.

Point being, before preaching about the use of the law, you must practice it so you can set an example for others to follow. One of you is preaching the rule of law, yet calling for the execution of the ones behind the use of this history book in the school's curricula. Irony much?
But, for your information, in any respectful, democratic country where the rule of law is protected by the state, any person found guilty of any crime has a voice, has a right to free trial, to an attorney, has a right to being heard and presenting his case in court. He's not hanged because some people think he's a traitor and he should be hanged. If this logic was to be applied in Lebanon, we'd have a mass execution festival on every piece of land in the country.

i hope you will tell this to your PM the shekh saad tell him not to forget to mention the terroriste groupe called hizbolla in his bayan wizari ! farjouna ento shataretkon !

[Dalzi]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

The dictionary definition of a terrorist is someone who who tries to frightens other people or governments to doing what they want, by using threatening violence.

What dictionary are you using? And how are you relating this to HA? When did HA threaten the Lebanese? I wish I had one bullet from what they had, i would've blown a few lahdian heads open when Israel withdrew from the south. Sha3b 3ameel mujrem ma kharjo 2ella nes ajram menno. I'd take justice into my own hands and make them pay for the occupation they created, for the murder, for the rape, for the theft... you name it.

Hizbullah pride themselves on their terrorist ways. I'm sure they would get upset if they were told that Israel or their political rivals don't fear them.

Fashart.

Why should a school/book be punished for just documenting facts?

Which facts? Show us your facts geageaist. It's funny you mention terrorism. HA didn't slaughter people after checking their IDs like you did, nor did they burry the living, nor did they massacre entire Lebanese families starting from the old to the baby. You people have no shame. Terrorism is your trademark.

[Shuyu3i]

This is why fpm should take the education ministry in the government.

[jnooobi]

Originally Posted by freakofmeds

Israel should top the charts of the most dangerous terrorist existence in the world by that definition. A simple look at the number of civilians / children killed by Israel during the past 10 years, tops the number of civilians killed by Hamas, Hizbullah, Al-Qaeda, Al-Jihad and the rest of the gang combined.

sorry but dont mix ha with al qaeda scum again different kettle of fish champ

[freakofmeds]

Originally Posted by jnooobi

sorry but dont mix ha with al qaeda scum again different kettle of fish champ

I'm not mixing them at all. I fully recognize the differences. I am just adding up the numbers here just to show how enormous the terrorism carried out by Israel against civilians actually is.

[joseph_lubnan]

Does Lebanese law forbid such books from being sold and used in Lebanon?

The school's international curriculum doesn't need to follow te Lebanese curriculum.

[joseph_lubnan]

Originally Posted by coralie

i hope you will tell this to your PM the shekh saad tell him not to forget to mention the terroriste groupe called hizbolla in his bayan wizari ! farjouna ento shataretkon !

Hariri already signed an MOU in private with Hezbollah.

You should praise him now. He followed in your footsteps.

School books are not tied to every successive government's bayan wizari.

Hezbollah has done several actions in its past that can be classified by some as terrorist activities. The least of which blowing up the Marines Barracks in the 80's. Did the gov back then consider the Marines as an occupying force?

[FBM]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Thaleth moutawaset is grade 9 (if you consider Bacc2 as freshman year)... third grade is thalet ibtida2i...

and there goes your whole argument

hehe actually it made it stronger!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL of course this book isn't gonna be taught to people with only lebanese passports! people with only lebanese passports are forced to take the leb bacc. and this textbook is for a high school course!

[FBM]

Originally Posted by kappa273

this book clearly propagates hate and it is really funny how FBM is trying to find an excuse...
ya FBM, you cannot ask kids to ignore this part of this book...
ya FBM, the school is responsible for the content of hte books they use.. if the content is not adequate, then the book is not picked..
it is not about freedom of choice or speech to teach hate to kids..

I'm not trying to find a excuse, Manar didnt even say if they were teaching that part of the book, or why they were teaching it to lebanese with another passport (the real reason is that they can take IB or get a high school diploma instead)... Manar twisted this story upside down and I don't even know what for... search around and you'll see that a big part of mou3arada MPs/ decision makers/ important backers send there children there...

[kappa273]

Originally Posted by FBM

I'm not trying to find a excuse, Manar didnt even say if they were teaching that part of the book, or why they were teaching it to lebanese with another passport (the real reason is that they can take IB or get a high school diploma instead)... Manar twisted this story upside down and I don't even know what for... search around and you'll see that a big part of mou3arada MPs/ decision makers/ important backers send there children there...

you cannot ask kids to ignore part of a book.. I am sure kids will be happy when any part of a school book is disregarded but since these are youngsters without much experience and knowledge and cannot make educated decisions, it is wrong to have such a book at their disposition...

let me give you an idea about how books are selected for schools in the US.. .each book has to go through 5 or 6 committees and every picture, word and sign are scrutinized several times... at the time of its release, a book may be at its 50th or 60th revision...

wouldn't you find it unusual if a book is released and taught to kids that LF are bunch of criminals, haters? (this is the reality but you cannot teach kids to hate to satisfy your own political agenda)..

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