biased school books in Lebanon

[Greg Davis]

The dictionary definition of a terrorist is someone who who tries to frightens other people or governments to doing what they want, by using threatening violence.

Hizbullah pride themselves on their terrorist ways. I'm sure they would get upset if they were told that Israel or their political rivals don't fear them.

Why should a school/book be punished for just documenting facts?

[sheikh]

Practice what you preach people. Many here are hiding under the context of the law to push forward their poisonous so-called victimized agenda.

Before speaking of the law and condemning an act against the law (which, in fact, may be true; I'm not speaking about right or wrong here), you need to self-critique a little bit, look around you, and think for a moment. A bunch of outlaws speaking of the law to push their agendas. How's that for irony?

For the sake of argument, if the law meant anything for you, then why have you not abided by it on many occasions such as:
January 23 unrest
May 7 unrest
Weapon smuggling south of Litani River

Violating the freedoms of people is against the law.
Attacking private and public property is against the law. Intimidation through the use of force against Lebanese citizens is against the law. This is hate by itself.
Violating UNSCR 1701 is against Lebanese and international law.

And these are not the only examples.

Point being, before preaching about the use of the law, you must practice it so you can set an example for others to follow. One of you is preaching the rule of law, yet calling for the execution of the ones behind the use of this history book in the school's curricula. Irony much?
But, for your information, in any respectful, democratic country where the rule of law is protected by the state, any person found guilty of any crime has a voice, has a right to free trial, to an attorney, has a right to being heard and presenting his case in court. He's not hanged because some people think he's a traitor and he should be hanged. If this logic was to be applied in Lebanon, we'd have a mass execution festival on every piece of land in the country.

[freemind]

Originally Posted by sheikh

But, for your information, in any respectful, democratic country where the rule of law is protected by the state, any person found guilty of any crime has a voice, has a right to free trial, to an attorney, has a right to being heard and presenting his case in court. He's not hanged because some people think he's a traitor and he should be hanged. If this logic was to be applied in Lebanon, we'd have a mass execution festival on every piece of land in the country.

But when you are talking Israel, Hezbollah, Lebanese nationalistic heroic resistance and the mumbo jumbo that comes along, the presence of traitors among your borders could mean a threat to this resistance, thus any act of violance against those traitors is acceptable and encouraged, even if those traitors were fellow countrymen.

The road of sufrance and Jihad against Israel cannot tolerate little hegemonic non-focused details such as ''fishy'' history books, those ought to be erradicated.

[joe tayyar]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

The dictionary definition of a terrorist is someone who who tries to frightens other people or governments to doing what they want, by using threatening violence.

Hizbullah pride themselves on their terrorist ways. I'm sure they would get upset if they were told that Israel or their political rivals don't fear them.

Why should a school/book be punished for just documenting facts?

They should not skip history for these students.
Schools should teach first the history of palastine and the history of israel and how they are raping other peoples land and why resistance was found and then let the kids judge who is the terrorist and who is the deffender.
Stop fooling our kids and grow them up on hatred to other fellow lebanese.

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by joe tayyar

They should not skip history for these students.
Schools should teach first the history of palastine and the history of israel and how they are raping other peoples land and why resistance was found and then let the kids judge who is the terrorist and who is the deffender.
Stop fooling our kids and grow them up on hatred to other fellow lebanese.

I'm sure the palestinian issue would be somewhere in the curriculum.

What you're forgetting is the systematic ethnic cleansing of the Assyrians, Keldans, Coptics, Syriacs and Sabias from the Arab world.

Show me a single history book in the entire arab world that would dare even suggest as such?

We can't change history, and there are different perspective to every event and situation. We can either accept our rights to free expression, or just become another Iran/ Saudia or Syria.

[freakofmeds]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

The dictionary definition of a terrorist is someone who who tries to frightens other people or governments to doing what they want, by using threatening violence.

Hizbullah pride themselves on their terrorist ways. I'm sure they would get upset if they were told that Israel or their political rivals don't fear them.

Why should a school/book be punished for just documenting facts?

Israel should top the charts of the most dangerous terrorist existence in the world by that definition. A simple look at the number of civilians / children killed by Israel during the past 10 years, tops the number of civilians killed by Hamas, Hizbullah, Al-Qaeda, Al-Jihad and the rest of the gang combined.

[freakofmeds]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

I'm sure the palestinian issue would be somewhere in the curriculum.

What you're forgetting is the systematic ethnic cleansing of the Assyrians, Keldans, Coptics, Syriacs and Sabias from the Arab world.

Show me a single history book in the entire arab world that would dare even suggest as such?

We can't change history, and there are different perspective to every event and situation. We can either accept our rights to free expression, or just become another Iran/ Saudia or Syria.

Freedom of expression does not include hate speech. People in France can be jailed for simply denying the Holocaust. Let's see you get away with a curriculum that teaches students in the US that the Holocaust was a fabrication.

Racism and hate speech are not permitted even in the most democratic society. Calling a political organization in Lebanon that has the direct support of at least a third of the lebanese population terrorist in a Lebanese school nonetheless is hate speech.

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by freakofmeds

Israel should top the charts of the most dangerous terrorist existence in the world by that definition. A simple look at the number of civilians / children killed by Israel during the past 10 years, tops the number of civilians killed by Hamas, Hizbullah, Al-Qaeda, Al-Jihad and the rest of the gang combined.

Totally agreed, although I recall very well, while studying at the I.S. that Israel weren't described any less.

[Greg Davis]

Originally Posted by freakofmeds

Freedom of expression does not include hate speech. People in France can be jailed for simply denying the Holocaust. Let's see you get away with a curriculum that teaches students in the US that the Holocaust was a fabrication.

Racism and hate speech are not permitted even in the most democratic society. Calling a political organization in Lebanon that has the direct support of at least a third of the lebanese population terrorist in a Lebanese school nonetheless is hate speech.

The Nazis were a political group, who had the support of over two thirds of Germany.

[freakofmeds]

Originally Posted by Greg Davis

The Nazis were a political group, who had the support of over two thirds of Germany.

If I get a penny for every time an elected government / a populist organization is compared to Nazi Germany by someone that dislikes that organization, I'd be a trillionaire by now. Many liberation / resistance movements are being called terrorist organizations mindlessly. In fact, by today's standards, the founding fathers of the United States would have been branded terrorists by the English dynasty 200 years ago.