Bashar Al Assad : North Lebanon is A base for extremism

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by zodiac

Im still insisting that everything happening these days is an exellent syrian plan!
ya 3amme what happened to the syrian evil regime? isnt it evil anymore?
what happend to the "syriaL killer regime" (the famous Aounist slogan)? isnt it a killer anymore?
what changed in the syrian behavior during the last 3 years? Absolutely nothing!!
Another Aounist slogan: .... isnt 'it obvious??

Since I believe that the US administration did the September 11 thing itself to have the green light to the Middle East, indeed, I may also think that Syria did its bomb itself to have the green light to lebanon. Unfortunately, as some said that Saddam gave the US excuses, well we can also say that the barbarians living in the North gave Syria excuses.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by Arze

If they are looking for such think,, means that they are calling Syria to enter to Lebanon themselves..
Do you know that the Arab Forces will be lead by the country that have longest border ma3 l balad li badon yfoutou 3leih???

The arab forces will be strictly Sunni (non-syrian)…the contingent force will be composed of Egyptian-Saudi-Jordanian…the moderate Democratic Sunni Arab….Hariri can not fully rule the country without direct military intervention by an ally…North Lebanon is a golden key for such scenario…Bindar is working in this plan day and night

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by FBM

yeah, but who is funding them? Syria is!

if we can seriously prove or expose this then all our problems will be solved.

but we can't now can we ? it could be syria, israel, the ksa or santa clause since our intelligence agencies are useless in exposing this.

my bet is that it's ksa mainly behind this with a variation of other secondary players behind it sometimes for their own ends and purposes.


but that's not my real problem, my real problem is with some lebanese who encourage those movements in one way or the other and here comes into play the esteemed secterian FM party of Saad Harriri with all its petrodollars and hate speechs.

[J_Raad1450]

Originally Posted by FBM

yeah, but who is funding them? Syria is!

Bindar bin Sultan and the saudis are funding them...do you want a youtube clip? or you can do without?

[Observer]

Hariri replied to Assad. Don't you realize how Assad is "mistakhri" lal hariri? also did you realize how hariri directed his words especially to france? Hariri and his puppets - who are Saudi puppets - are scared that their game has been exposed? they are trying their best to stick it to the Syrians to cover up for their mess. Also Syrians have been turning up the heat on the saudis and wahhabi for supporting wahhabi?

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Youchka

Since I believe that the US administration did the September 11 thing itself to have the green light to the Middle East, indeed, I may also think that Syria did its bomb itself to have the green light to lebanon. Unfortunately, as some said that Saddam gave the US excuses, well we can also say that the barbarians living in the North gave Syria excuses.

It’s always possible, there are many concurrent plans at play here by many parties.
This isn’t checkers, this is networked chess with geniuses and maniacs playing.

Our responsibility in that respect is towards our own destructive actions and not the intentions of others.

Harriri abused the north for internal personal lebanese reasons, that’s the gist of the matter that is now allowing everybody on the outside to abuse the north even more for their own external political reasons.

[J_Raad1450]

OTV News للمرة الثالثة في عام ونيف، يُستهدف الجيش اللبناني في طرابلس. بين 21 ايار 2007 و2 ايلول من العام نفسه، كانت المعركة ضد فتح الاسلام. وفي 13 آب الماضي، كان انفجار لباص يقل عسكريين لبنانيين. واليوم تكررت الجريمة.

في المعطيات الرقمية، تتراجع فاعلية المجرمين، أما في المعطيات السياسية،فتتزايد خطورتهم.

رقمياً،في معركة أصوليي شاكر العبسي، الهارب المهرَّب،أكثر من 160 شهيداً للجيش.وفي 13 آب الماضي أربع عشرة ضحية، تسع منها للجيش. أما اليوم، فانتهت الجريمة الى خمسة ضحايا، أربع منها لعسكريين.

أرقام الخسائر الى تراجع إذن. مع أن كل خسارة بشرية تظل في المبدأ مطلقةً قصوى، كونها لا تعوَّض.

لكن المعطيات السياسية خلف الجرائم، فإلى تصاعد وانكشاف خطيرين.

فانفجار طرابلس اليوم، تزامن مع كلام سوري، عن اتهام دول مجاورة بالضلوع في التفجيرات. وصولاً حتى اتهام دمشق مسؤولين عرباً، بالتورط في الأعمال الإرهابية الحاصلة داخلها، وتلميحاً داخل لبنان.

أما في التداعيات والنتائج، فكان تزامن بين تفجير طرابلس اليوم، وتفجير دمشق قبل يومين، وبين كلام للرئيس السوري بشار الأسد، عن أن شمال لبنان تحول قاعدة للتطرف، تشكل خطراً على سوريا نفسها.

كل ذلك في ظل عدد من المعطيات الأكثر خطراً. فهناك كلام عن عبور أكثر من سيارة مفخخة الى سوريا، كالتي انفجرت امس الأول في عاصمتها. وهناك كلام عن أن انتشار الجيش السوري على الحدود، كان في هذا السياق. وهناك كلام عن أن هذا الانتشار، كان بعلم غربي، وأوروبي خصوصاً، وبمباركة، او حتى طلب. وهناك كلام عن أن الخطر الأصولي الذي كوَّن بؤرته في شمال لبنان، ستتحول إزالته مطلباً دولياً بأي ثمن ووسيلة وواسطة.

كل ذلك، يفسر خطورة كلام وليد جنبلاط قبل ايام، حين كشف أن سعد الدين الحريري لعب لعبة خطيرة مع السلفيين، قبل أن يتداركها، على حد اعتقاد سيد المختارة. فهل تداركها فعلاً، أم أن المسخ المولود بالتلقيح البترودولاري، خرج من أنبوب الطفل، وبات طليقاً يقتل، حتى يُقتل؟

[LebanonUSA]

I'm sorry if what I'll is redundant since I won't read 6 pages, with all due respect to my fellow forumers...

However, there is something really fishy going on... First we have the Syrians deploying their army on Lebanon's border, second we have an explosion in Damascus (who Syria already accused the bombers to have come from Tripoli), third we have today's explosion in Tripoli. Is Syria back to playing the "maniac pyrotechnician/firefighter" again? There are many variables that need to be taken into consideration as well: the festering of AlQaeda inspired terrorists in Tripoli (who went as far as calling Tripoli their new Qandahar), and the rapprochment between Syria and the West the last few months. Where does Abdel Halim Khaddam stand in all of this? Is he instigating the Sunnis to cause problems in Lebanon and Syria? It was his style in the past, what would stop him now? Who is going to stop Syria mimicking Turkey's cross-border attacks against Iraq to control the Kurdish attacks? Syria can and would use the growing number of terrorists in Tripoli as a cover for them to go on the offensive there (and hopefully not as far as they did in Hama and Hums in the early 1980s).

There's something bigger going on and all what most peopl do is sit on their tushies, eat popcorn, and watch the serenade...

[Red Phoenix]

Originally Posted by LebanonUSA

I'm sorry if what I'll is redundant since I won't read 6 pages, with all due respect to my fellow forumers...

However, there is something really fishy going on... First we have the Syrians deploying their army on Lebanon's border, second we have an explosion in Damascus (who Syria already accused the bombers to have come from Tripoli), third we have today's explosion in Tripoli. Is Syria back to playing the "maniac pyrotechnician/firefighter" again? There are many variables that need to be taken into consideration as well: the festering of AlQaeda inspired terrorists in Tripoli (who went as far as calling Tripoli their new Qandahar), and the rapprochment between Syria and the West the last few months. Where does Abdel Halim Khaddam stand in all of this? Is he instigating the Sunnis to cause problems in Lebanon and Syria? It was his style in the past, what would stop him now? Who is going to stop Syria mimicking Turkey's cross-border attacks against Iraq to control the Kurdish attacks? Syria can and would use the growing number of terrorists in Tripoli as a cover for them to go on the offensive there (and hopefully not as far as they did in Hama and Hums in the early 1980s).

There's something bigger going on and all what most peopl do is sit on their tushies, eat popcorn, and watch the serenade...

do excuse me if i copy paste this, but as i said to Youchka :

It’s always possible, there are many concurrent plans at play here by many parties.
This isn’t checkers, this is networked chess with geniuses and maniacs playing.

Our responsibility in that respect is towards our own destructive actions and not the intentions of others.

Harriri abused the north for internal personal lebanese reasons, that’s the gist of the matter that is now allowing everybody on the outside to abuse the north even more for their own external political reasons.

[Youchka]

Originally Posted by Red Phoenix

It’s always possible, there are many concurrent plans at play here by many parties.
This isn’t checkers, this is networked chess with geniuses and maniacs playing.

Our responsibility in that respect is towards our own destructive actions and not the intentions of others.

Harriri abused the north for internal personal lebanese reasons, that’s the gist of the matter that is now allowing everybody on the outside to abuse the north even more for their own external political reasons.

Joumblat has said it so well, Hariri was so short sighted in encouraging these extremists. I have said it sooo many time before on this forum, I tried to warn our Sunni brothers here, especially the ones defending extremism that those are like weker dababir and they will not spare anyone, starting by the Sunnis themselves.
Now, not only are they killing our soldiers and our civilians, hope they will not start real terrorism against civilians, but they are also spreading the red carpet to Syria to meddle in our business again.