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So I think both explications are correct.
No need for the "I think" mickey :D. The Jews (first jews) are from the people of Israel, so are the first Christians. Israel is from Abraham, Ishmael is from Abraham. Same tree, same ethnicity. Anti Semite is of course anti Jewish, just as it is anti Christian and anti Muslim. So what is Jesus? Not a Semite?
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Harrun didnt say that appoiting a jew as ambassador is a good thing in itself or that Lebanon should do the same...

He wanted to do mark the fact that in Lebanon, the most progressive of Arab countries, jews dont live safely and hide their identity, while in Bahrein, which is supposed to be of far less democratic standards, they live normally and are even appointed to high state jobs...

He wanted to use that as a comparaison, and maybe as a wake up call, not as an example to follow...
This is exactly what I meant when I opened this thread and not surprisingly, it's always the "Arab Nationalists" who are so blinded by their hatred for Israel they can't simply comprehend or accept the obvious fact that Lebanese Jews are Lebanese foremost, always have been, and have been more loyal to Lebanon than any other religious sect- this is fact nor heresy.

Ya Arab Nationalists, you guys are merely tools for Zionist propaganda, you're so blind you can't even realize you do exactly what the Zionists want, you say exactly what they want you to say, you're ignorance and short-sightedness is the reason why your entire ideology has proved to be a failure and will continue being a failure.

I said it before and I will say it again, the Lebanese Jews are more loyal to Lebanon than any other political or religious community and before you respond be prepared for a dialogue of substance and principle and fact, not poetry and cheap rhetoric that you've paraded in the streets of Beirut and Cairo and Damascus for 50 years.

And for the record, there is still a large community living very quietly in Lebanon because of the very reasons we're arguing about here on this forum, the ignorance and stupidity of people who believe they are fighting Israel by discriminating against their own people... good job, rest assured, Palestinians will never have a country and only because you guys have applied the same techniques and received the same results for the last 60 years, keep preaching your poetry and rhetoric, the Zionists exploit your stupidity to their advantage.
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Why isn't the synagogue in downtown renovated. It's a really nice old building, obviously protected by private security. Once, I was standing in front of it looking at the synagogue, and the guard in front of it let his walky talky telling him to kick us out.
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Lebanese Jews are Lebanese foremost, always have been, and have been more loyal to Lebanon than any other religious sect
oh really , how did u measure that ?

& it seems u are allowed to be sectarian but only when it comes to Jews !

anyway , it looks like u are addressing me when u say "arab nationalists " , well , it looks like u ignored what i said abt leb jews being lebanese & having the right to be treated as equals . but i bet u didn't read , u just did your drama dance , left , then came back & did some more , & started bashing Arab nationalists..

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prove it.
are u one of those ppl who also believe in UFOs & ghosts ?

& entire communities live as ghosts bcz of what exactly ??? bcz someone like me said they should have equal rights & should be loyal to lebanon & not to the zionist state ? wow how convincing.

ya haruun let me ask u this : are u a lebanese jew ?
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ya haruun let me ask u this : are u a lebanese jew ?
If they're like him 3a shou mkhabayeen? lol I don't get it really... We haven't laid a finger on the traitors that killed us, we're going to harm Jews for the sake of them being Jews?! Shou jnoun l2ossa? Ben Laden himself doesn't harm jews! They don't understand that our problem is not with "Jews" but rather "Zionists". Most Zionists are Jews and most Jews are Zionists, but there's a huge number of other humans in this world .

And what's wrong with Arab Nationalists? It's an honor. The moment you say the word "Jew", they slam you with Arab Nationalist. Intellectuals, Arabs would be garbage if they accept Israeli occupation of Arab land. We're not planning on becoming as such.
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This is exactly what I meant when I opened this thread and not surprisingly, it's always the "Arab Nationalists" who are so blinded by their hatred for Israel they can't simply comprehend or accept the obvious fact that Lebanese Jews are Lebanese foremost, always have been, and have been more loyal to Lebanon than any other religious sect- this is fact nor heresy.

Ya Arab Nationalists, you guys are merely tools for Zionist propaganda, you're so blind you can't even realize you do exactly what the Zionists want, you say exactly what they want you to say, you're ignorance and short-sightedness is the reason why your entire ideology has proved to be a failure and will continue being a failure.

I said it before and I will say it again, the Lebanese Jews are more loyal to Lebanon than any other political or religious community and before you respond be prepared for a dialogue of substance and principle and fact, not poetry and cheap rhetoric that you've paraded in the streets of Beirut and Cairo and Damascus for 50 years.

And for the record, there is still a large community living very quietly in Lebanon because of the very reasons we're arguing about here on this forum, the ignorance and stupidity of people who believe they are fighting Israel by discriminating against their own people... good job, rest assured, Palestinians will never have a country and only because you guys have applied the same techniques and received the same results for the last 60 years, keep preaching your poetry and rhetoric, the Zionists exploit your stupidity to their advantage.
Let me start off by saying that I believe it is a shame that Lebanese jews have to hide their identity in Lebanon. I have no problem with them, nor should anyone else. They are as Lebanese as any of us and should be treated as such. If there are cases of treason by any Lebanese jew, they should be dealt with accordingly in a court of law.

Can you expand further why you say that Lebanese Jews are more loyal to Lebanon that any other party or religious sect? I am not doubting their loyalty to Lebanon bas I find this comment quite odd. What measurments did you use?
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This is exactly what I meant when I opened this thread and not surprisingly, it's always the "Arab Nationalists" who are so blinded by their hatred for Israel they can't simply comprehend or accept the obvious fact that Lebanese Jews are Lebanese foremost, always have been, and have been more loyal to Lebanon than any other religious sect- this is fact nor heresy.

Ya Arab Nationalists, you guys are merely tools for Zionist propaganda, you're so blind you can't even realize you do exactly what the Zionists want, you say exactly what they want you to say, you're ignorance and short-sightedness is the reason why your entire ideology has proved to be a failure and will continue being a failure.

I said it before and I will say it again, the Lebanese Jews are more loyal to Lebanon than any other political or religious community and before you respond be prepared for a dialogue of substance and principle and fact, not poetry and cheap rhetoric that you've paraded in the streets of Beirut and Cairo and Damascus for 50 years.

And for the record, there is still a large community living very quietly in Lebanon because of the very reasons we're arguing about here on this forum, the ignorance and stupidity of people who believe they are fighting Israel by discriminating against their own people... good job, rest assured, Palestinians will never have a country and only because you guys have applied the same techniques and received the same results for the last 60 years, keep preaching your poetry and rhetoric, the Zionists exploit your stupidity to their advantage.
A lot of arab nationalists are against jewish migration from arabic lands. I personally think that the arabs should stretch out their hands for all arab jews and call upon them to return to their different home lands. I consider it an honour that most arab societies have historically had Hayy Jahodi and those who left should return as soon as possible.
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When considering the Jewish experience in the Arab world we must first recognize that they are Arabs, as Christians and Muslims. Lebanese Jews have lived in Lebanon for as long as Jews existed, so they are neither immigrants nor naturalized citizens but Lebanese with the same family names, culture, etc. as everyone else in this country. I can provide specific information attesting to this reality and particularly their deep attachment to Lebanon foremost. In fact, Lebanon is the ONLY country in the world whose Jewish population increased after 1948 and the Jews were constitutionally protected. In 1954, Riad al Solh, Bechara el Khoury, Pierre Gemayel, MP Rashid Beydoun and many others all attended Passover at the main Synagogue in Beirut.

To get straight to the point since I forgot to respond to this from last week, lets consider the traitors we have in Lebanon. For the sake of conversation and to further support my position lets put Israel and Syria on the same level. Give me the name of 1 Lebanese Jew who worked, supported, or endorsed either countries activities in Lebanon. Only 1 time in the history of Lebanon has someone from this community been in trouble for dealing with Israel and in fact, it was a woman, non-Lebanese Jew who was living in Lebanon amongst the community.

Throughout history and this is public and well-documented, the Zionists failed and kept failing to seduce the Lebanese Jews into immigrating to Israel. Before and especially after Lebanon’s independence and I can tell you even in the past 10 years when they offered citizenship and money to any family that wanted to go and they still refused.

This community is forced to live in the dark for lack of security; they choose to live on their land in Lebanon even when their own people don’t necessarily accept them over living openly in Israel where they can have easier access to a better life.

It’s known that in 1982 Israel purposely bombed the main Synagogue in Wadi Abu Jmil to push them out of Lebanon, and to further complicate matters 11 leaders of their community were kidnapped and killed by terrorists within Lebanon. The expression “stuck between a rock and a hard place” goes a long way for these people.

And for the record, the overwhelming majority of Jews from Lebanon who immigrated to Israel are not actually Lebanese, they are mostly Syrian and Iraqi Jews who lived temporarily in Lebanon and never had Lebanese citizenship. The majority live amongst other Lebanese in the usual communities – Paris, New York, Brazil, Montreal, etc. Even their Synagogues outside Lebanon have Lebanese names.
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