Baabda Elections 2009

[TTT1]

Originally Posted by geogeo758

I respect your opinion very much, but I must say that in Lebanon people don't vote based on democracy or on democratic principles, but they vote for who has done them the most favors and has helped them out. Edmond Gharios has given out and helped many people in Baabda and has done many Khadmat along with providing financial assistance for many residence. If M8 wins the entire list, he will probably be the only one to make it from M14.

Gharios is good in Chyah only. Baabda is far bigger then Chyah.

[Abotareq93]

Originally Posted by Youchka

I respect Dr Daccache, but the heck is he trying to do? I mean he was on FPM list in 2005, he was chosen by GMA to be the MP after Ghanem's assassination, today, he was asked to leave a spot to others, ma fehmet ma baka hada ya3rif yenzal 3anan la hal kersse el ^&**%%$?

Pierre Daccache became MP after the death of Edmond N3eem; nobody replaced Antoine Ghanem, the seat is still empty.

[geogeo758]

Originally Posted by TTT1

Gharios is good in Chyah only. Baabda is far bigger then Chyah.

He also has a big following in Hammana and Ras el Metn.

[hunter007]

Originally Posted by geogeo758

He also has a big following in Hammana and Ras el Metn.

Do You remember Bon in Kesrouan, who has done many khadamat ? In 2005 he was considered as A "Père Tardif" and miracle worker. The only result was Orange Tsunami wich still progressing in 2009.

[Abou Sandal]

Originally Posted by geogeo758

... but I must say that in Lebanon people don't vote based on democracy ....

I've been trying to understand the meaning of this sentence, but i couldn't.

It just doesn't make sense.

[geogeo758]

Originally Posted by Abou Sandal

I've been trying to understand the meaning of this sentence, but i couldn't.

It just doesn't make sense.

I personally don't believe that a nation that votes for feudal families and war lords is really voting based on democratic principles. For instance how long has Michel el Murr been in power for...since the late 60s. I personally don't believe that it is a true sign of democracy. He considers democracy to be one that includes doing favors for others and using bribes and money to get votes. And that sad part is he is not the only one like that in ALL OF LEBANON....

[lebanese1]

3 days after HA withdrew their candidate MP Cherri from Beirut which was pictured as a concession to solve the problem between FPM and Amal, why hasn't Kanj been officially declared as the second chi3i candidate of the list in Baabda?

On the opposite, most newspapers (pro loyalists and opposition) are saying that HA may name someone from their ranks (Hamdar or Farhat) or at best case a consencus candidate (Fadi 3alemeh).

With all respect to HA, if Kanj isn't chosen as a candidate, it means that HA didn't present any concession as they are trying to picture! They have just exchanged seats with Amal between Baabda and Beirut 2 and thus the problem shifted from being between FPM and Amal in Baabda to being between FPM and HA!

[Sniper®]

Originally Posted by lebanese1

3 days after HA withdrew their candidate MP Cherri from Beirut which was pictured as a concession to solve the problem between FPM and Amal, why hasn't Kanj been officially declared as the second chi3i candidate of the list in Baabda?

On the opposite, most newspapers (pro loyalists and opposition) are saying that HA may name someone from their ranks (Hamdar or Farhat) or at best case a consencus candidate (Fadi 3alemeh).

With all respect to HA, if Kanj isn't chosen as a candidate, it means that HA didn't present any concession as they are trying to picture! They have just exchanged seats with Amal between Baabda and Beirut 2 and thus the problem shifted from being between FPM and Amal in Baabda to being between FPM and HA!

آلان عون: ما يصح على المقاعد الشيعية ببعبدا يصح على المارونية في جزين
24 نيسان 2009
أمل القيادي في التيار "الوطني الحر" آلان عون أن تصل قضية جزين الى خواتيمها وفقا للمنطق والحق، لافتا الى أنه ليس المطلوب أن يتنازل أحد بل المطلوب أن نأخذ بعين الاعتبار المعطيات التي تحدد كل فريق ما يحق له في اي منطقة، مؤكدا أن المهم أن نتوصل الى تفاهم في النهاية.
وأضاف ردا على سؤال أن التيار يطمح الى الحصول على حجمه في أي دائرة، مشيرا الى أن المعارضة اتفقت على معايير معينة في التعاطي مع كل الدوائر الانتخابية وما ينطيق على باقي الدوائر ينطبق على جزين، داعيا الى التعامل مع التيار في جزين كما تعاطى هو في باقي الدوائر التي كانت فيها قوى المعارضة مختلطة.
ولفت في حديث لتلفزيون "الجديد"، الى أن بيروت-2 هي نتيجة اتفاق بين "حزب الله" وحركة "أمل" على تقسيم الدوائر الانتخابية، أما في بعبدا فما يصح في التعاطي مع المقاعد الشيعية في هذه الدائرة يصح في التعاطي مع اختيار المقاعد المارونية في جزين.
وبالنسبة لدائرة كسروان، أكد عون أن كل شيء لم يُعلن رسميا بعد ليس محسوما، مشددا على أن الكلام الذي تتناوله الصحف عن استبعاد مرشحين واستبدالهم بآخرين ليس صحيحا

As it seems it is Kanj for Salim Aazar, pure sectarian coalition, it seems we can't nominate a chiite candidate
P.S: Don't tell me we nominated Abbas Hachem, the statistics forced Berri to accept the nomination

[vegojimbo]

Originally Posted by Sniper®

آلان عون: ما يصح على المقاعد الشيعية ببعبدا يصح على المارونية في جزين

24 نيسان 2009
أمل القيادي في التيار "الوطني الحر" آلان عون أن تصل قضية جزين الى خواتيمها وفقا للمنطق والحق، لافتا الى أنه ليس المطلوب أن يتنازل أحد بل المطلوب أن نأخذ بعين الاعتبار المعطيات التي تحدد كل فريق ما يحق له في اي منطقة، مؤكدا أن المهم أن نتوصل الى تفاهم في النهاية.
وأضاف ردا على سؤال أن التيار يطمح الى الحصول على حجمه في أي دائرة، مشيرا الى أن المعارضة اتفقت على معايير معينة في التعاطي مع كل الدوائر الانتخابية وما ينطيق على باقي الدوائر ينطبق على جزين، داعيا الى التعامل مع التيار في جزين كما تعاطى هو في باقي الدوائر التي كانت فيها قوى المعارضة مختلطة.
ولفت في حديث لتلفزيون "الجديد"، الى أن بيروت-2 هي نتيجة اتفاق بين "حزب الله" وحركة "أمل" على تقسيم الدوائر الانتخابية، أما في بعبدا فما يصح في التعاطي مع المقاعد الشيعية في هذه الدائرة يصح في التعاطي مع اختيار المقاعد المارونية في جزين.
وبالنسبة لدائرة كسروان، أكد عون أن كل شيء لم يُعلن رسميا بعد ليس محسوما، مشددا على أن الكلام الذي تتناوله الصحف عن استبعاد مرشحين واستبدالهم بآخرين ليس صحيحا

As it seems it is Kanj for Salim Aazar, pure sectarian coalition, it seems we can't nominate a chiite candidate
P.S: Don't tell me we nominated Abbas Hachem, the statistics forced Berri to accept the nomination

but now the 2 issues are not directly linked anymore. In baabda, it's now a FPM/HA disagreement, while in Jezzine it's a FPM/Amal one. So any exchange between both seats is no longer valid.

[Sniper®]

Originally Posted by vegojimbo

but now the 2 issues are not directly linked anymore. In baabda, it's now a FPM/HA disagreement, while in Jezzine it's a FPM/Amal one. So any exchange between both seats is no longer valid.

you missed the point, when i said it is pure sectarian issue i meant the following:
if FPM (Chrisian party) are not allowed to nominate a chiite candidate in baabda, than Amal (the chiite party) won't be allowed to nominate Samir Aazar
Can we get lower than that