The Army of Lebanon

[rayograph]

الديار: إسرائيل تضع "فيتو" على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث للبنان

ذكرت صحيفة "الديار" أن مساعدات عسكرية خارجية ستأتي إلى لبنان وستكون هذه الأسلحة أميركية وفرنسية، فالأميركيون سيزودون الجيش بكل وسائل النقل من ملالات وشاحنات وآليات نقل وبعض المدرعات، كما سيتولى الفرنسيون إعادة إصلاح طائرات "البوما" وتحضير سلاح الطوافات في الجيش اللبناني، كما أن بريطانيا سوف تقوم بإعادة تأهيل 6 طائرات "هوكر هنتر" موجودة في قاعدة الرياق العسكرية، وهناك أسلحة وطوافات ستأتي من مصر والأردن، كما أن سوريا تبدي استعدادها لتقديم مدرعات من طراز "تي 55" ومدفعية من عيار 130 وكل ما يحتاجه الجيش من تدريبات، كلك عرضت مصر تقديم خبراء وعتاد عسكري للجيش، ومعلوم أيضا أن الإمارات ستزود لبنان بسرب من طوافات عسكرية.


ولفتت الصحيفة إلى أنه في موضوع الطائرات الحربية النفاثة، فإن إسرائيل لا تقبل بهذا الأمر وتضع فيتو على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث

31/8/2008
Al Nashra

[DITOU]

Originally Posted by rayograph

الديار: إسرائيل تضع "فيتو" على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث للبنان

ذكرت صحيفة "الديار" أن مساعدات عسكرية خارجية ستأتي إلى لبنان وستكون هذه الأسلحة أميركية وفرنسية، فالأميركيون سيزودون الجيش بكل وسائل النقل من ملالات وشاحنات وآليات نقل وبعض المدرعات، كما سيتولى الفرنسيون إعادة إصلاح طائرات "البوما" وتحضير سلاح الطوافات في الجيش اللبناني، كما أن بريطانيا سوف تقوم بإعادة تأهيل 6 طائرات "هوكر هنتر" موجودة في قاعدة الرياق العسكرية، وهناك أسلحة وطوافات ستأتي من مصر والأردن، كما أن سوريا تبدي استعدادها لتقديم مدرعات من طراز "تي 55" ومدفعية من عيار 130 وكل ما يحتاجه الجيش من تدريبات، كلك عرضت مصر تقديم خبراء وعتاد عسكري للجيش، ومعلوم أيضا أن الإمارات ستزود لبنان بسرب من طوافات عسكرية.


ولفتت الصحيفة إلى أنه في موضوع الطائرات الحربية النفاثة، فإن إسرائيل لا تقبل بهذا الأمر وتضع فيتو على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث

31/8/2008
Al Nashra

This all BS .

All they are willing to give our army is scrap .

They want to help restore the "hawker hunters" ? is this a joke ? who still have this kind of junk jet fighter aircraft of the 1950s and 1960s are we restoring our military museum or what ?

We saw the kind of weaponery they sent to the army during the most difficult battle of Nahr al bared SCRAP .

[shadow1]

Originally Posted by DITOU

This all BS .

All they are willing to give our army is scrap .

They want to help restore the "hawker hunters" ? is this a joke ? who still have this kind of junk jet fighter aircraft of the 1950s and 1960s are we restoring our military museum or what ?

If they still have spare parts to them they may not be museum material yet. If I were a pilot though I'd think twice about flying them, they may get me closer to heaven than I really would like to be. Patriot or not.

We saw the kind of weaponery they sent to the army during the most difficult battle of Nahr al bared SCRAP .

There is huge demand on modern weaponry and it cost too much to acquire them. The govt will have to either raise taxes, steal less, or beg for more. All not good options. So katter khayroun haldowal for giving us some weapons even old ones. We can always do wonders with them.

[DITOU]

Originally Posted by shadow1

If they still have spare parts to them they may not be museum material yet. If I were a pilot though I'd think twice about flying them, they may get me closer to heaven than I really would like to be. Patriot or not.


There is huge demand on modern weaponry and it cost too much to acquire them. The govt will have to either raise taxes, steal less, or beg for more. All not good options. So katter khayroun haldowal for giving us some weapons even old ones. We can always do wonders with them.

Hehehehehehe you are conferming my point , museum "Items" even with new spare parts it will still be a tuff tuff !

The "old" weapons they gave our Army caused lots of damages to our soldiers . (bullet proof bullets madroubin and so on ... ) so, thanks but la2 mich katar khayron .
Our Army is not a dump for "weaponry" Scrap .

[TripolySunni]

Originally Posted by rayograph

الديار: إسرائيل تضع "فيتو" على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث للبنان

ذكرت صحيفة "الديار" أن مساعدات عسكرية خارجية ستأتي إلى لبنان وستكون هذه الأسلحة أميركية وفرنسية، فالأميركيون سيزودون الجيش بكل وسائل النقل من ملالات وشاحنات وآليات نقل وبعض المدرعات، كما سيتولى الفرنسيون إعادة إصلاح طائرات "البوما" وتحضير سلاح الطوافات في الجيش اللبناني، كما أن بريطانيا سوف تقوم بإعادة تأهيل 6 طائرات "هوكر هنتر" موجودة في قاعدة الرياق العسكرية، وهناك أسلحة وطوافات ستأتي من مصر والأردن، كما أن سوريا تبدي استعدادها لتقديم مدرعات من طراز "تي 55" ومدفعية من عيار 130 وكل ما يحتاجه الجيش من تدريبات، كلك عرضت مصر تقديم خبراء وعتاد عسكري للجيش، ومعلوم أيضا أن الإمارات ستزود لبنان بسرب من طوافات عسكرية.


ولفتت الصحيفة إلى أنه في موضوع الطائرات الحربية النفاثة، فإن إسرائيل لا تقبل بهذا الأمر وتضع فيتو على إعادة بناء سلاح جو نفاث

31/8/2008
Al Nashra

I think That Syria has already given us more than enough weapons :) (most of our vehicles actually come from Syria and they were the first country to offer lebanon weapons).

Besides i remember our airplanes from that Aerial Force Show (probably during Auon's Days). Anyways they Suck!!! and cannot defend lebanon against Israel Or syria (for those who wanna fight syria). It's only to be used internally To bomb Lebanese Salfists or Lebanese Shiites, and they Offer Trucks and APCs to transport our under-armed Fighters to thier Deaths.

[Hiram of Tyre]

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

This thread's main purpose is to discuss the potential and capabilities of our national army.

1-Any information about the lebanese army's Equipment, strategies, strong points and weak points are welcome.

The Lebanese army's equipment is nothing much to talk about.
The Strategy? Do Lebanese ever have a strategy? Maybe just to survive...
Strong points? Bravery.
Weak points? hizbula who morally weakens the army, and now physically.

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

2-When could the army be definilty ready to take the job of the resistance and be capable of pushing back the IDFs who Pose a serious threat to our national security and Sovereignty in times of Invasion.

No need. Resistance against who? Our land is free. Except for a small part; which is and isn't Lebanese, which can be returned by diplomacy and a little help from the Syrians if they wanted to.
Keep our southern border peaceful, and both will live in peace.
So there will be no threat to our security and sovereignty.
Invasion will happen when Israel's Northern border is not safe.
Disarm hizbola and the Palestinians.

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

3-What does the Lebanese army lack today From types of equipment to training and how can they make up for it and what are the obstacles that stand in the way of a capable Lebanese army?

They lack everything.
Obstacles... hizbula.
One army in Lebanon.

Originally Posted by TripolySunni

4-This thread is also related to the resistance and how they coordinate and exchange info with the army, in what ways do they serve the army and in what ways it serves them, Can we say that the lebanese resistance groups are integrated into the army and to what extent?

I am also hoping that by discussing these issues we can all realise somehow the strategic importance of the resistance.

There can be no coordination between the Lebanese army and a militia.
The so called resistance should be integrated into the army, under the military command, so we don't get any more decisions of war without the governments approval.
They do not serve the Lebanese army.

After all I read in all the threads and posts, I still see no strategic importance of the so called resistance.

Everything the hizbola do and have done is not for the good of Lebanon but
just to reinforce their popularity with their people and with the arab world, and to reinforce their grip on the Lebanese scene.

[Kasparov]

Originally Posted by Hiram of Tyre

The Lebanese army's equipment is nothing much to talk about.
The Strategy? Do Lebanese ever have a strategy? Maybe just to survive...
Strong points? Bravery.
Weak points? hizbula who morally weakens the army, and now physically.



No need. Resistance against who? Our land is free. Except for a small part; which is and isn't Lebanese, which can be returned by diplomacy and a little help from the Syrians if they wanted to.
Keep our southern border peaceful, and both will live in peace.
So there will be no threat to our security and sovereignty.
Invasion will happen when Israel's Northern border is not safe.
Disarm hizbola and the Palestinians.



They lack everything.
Obstacles... hizbula.
One army in Lebanon.



There can be no coordination between the Lebanese army and a militia.
The so called resistance should be integrated into the army, under the military command, so we don't get any more decisions of war without the governments approval.
They do not serve the Lebanese army.

After all I read in all the threads and posts, I still see no strategic importance of the so called resistance.

Everything the hizbola do and have done is not for the good of Lebanon but
just to reinforce their popularity with their people and with the arab world, and to reinforce their grip on the Lebanese scene.

Following your logic, we actually don't need a strong army, tell me what will happen if Israel decides to invade us like in 1982, using silly excuses ? also, why don't most countries follow your theory and just throw the "strong" army concept since its all about keeping borders safe ?

[Hiram of Tyre]

Originally Posted by Kasparov

Following your logic, we actually don't need a strong army, tell me what will happen if Israel decides to invade us like in 1982, using silly excuses ? also, why don't most countries follow your theory and just throw the "strong" army concept since its all about keeping borders safe ?

Check out New Zealand.

[mikeys71]

Originally Posted by Kasparov

Following your logic, we actually don't need a strong army, tell me what will happen if Israel decides to invade us like in 1982, using silly excuses ? also, why don't most countries follow your theory and just throw the "strong" army concept since its all about keeping borders safe ?

What if China decided to invade Lebanon. Will we be ready?? should we arm ourselves to mach their power??
No country invade another without an excuse. Don't give Israel the excuse and they will not dare cross the border.

[NEVER_BACK_DOWN]

Originally Posted by mikeys71

what if china decided to invade lebanon. Will we be ready?? Should we arm ourselves to mach their power??
No country invade another without an excuse. Don't give israel the excuse and they will not dare cross the border.

not even your allies could face china
as for the excuse(s) , looks like you don't know ( read ) nothing about history