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Originally Posted by TripolySunni This thread's main purpose is to discuss the potential and capabilities of our national army.
1-Any information about the lebanese army's Equipment, strategies, strong points and weak points are welcome.
2-When could the army be definilty ready to take the job of the resistance and be capable of pushing back the IDFs who Pose a serious threat to our national security and Sovereignty in times of Invasion.
3-What does the Lebanese army lack today From types of equipment to training and how can they make up for it and what are the obstacles that stand in the way of a capable lebanese army?
4-This thread is also related to the resistance and how they coordinate and exchange info with the army, in what ways do they serve the army and in what ways it serves them, Can we say that the lebanese resistance groups are integrated into the army and to what extent?
I am also hoping that by discussing these issues we can all realise somehow the strategic importance of the resistance. | God bless our LA who showed lots of noblty during many battles..The Americans won;t allow the Lebanese army to have good weapons which they deserve and should be as they are scared for their Jews..didn;t they give the Isreals green light to hit lebanon with the hope of disarming HA and failed..so i just hope that one day they will  | | | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by TripolySunni Everyone in this forum Is in Love with the army, But do we really have any idea about what hardships our army men are going through regarding thier equipment, supplies and the various almost impossible tasks that we ask of them while under these Rotten conditions.
So why don't you people share with us some of the problems and solutions posted above (especially the people of the tayyar as they should have a good understanding of the army's situation better then the rest of the parties).
So what do the Lebanese people propose to strenghten our army? Or do you think that we should leave these big matters to the "Politicians" ;) | maybe we should ask why we have billions and billions of $$$$ debts while our National Army is still very badly equipted .
with the worst equipments our army did a realy amazing work on the ground imagine if it was well equipted . this make us wonder why they insiste on keeping it like this ? and who is refusing (Veto) to give the Lebanese army proper modern equipments ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Abou Sandal The Army needs to modernization and needs seriously to be equipped.With real weapons.
The US never allowed it and won't ever allow it as long as something called Israel exists.
The LA must start to secretly smuggle high tech weapons and should never disclose their existence in its hands.
The resistance is highly invited to participate in such efforts. | i agree  | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to coralie For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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I think that our Government should enter the Anti-American Soviet/chinese front Thus making Syria and Iran The official Allies of lebanon.
They will probably reward the army with anti-Merkava Missiles (like HA) and a few planes (with pilots).... as well as Meaningful international support (cause russia is trying to build an army of nations that counter US influence especially in the MidEast) Unlike the US that abadons it's allies (Georgia).
Although This move will probably lead to a sort of Civil-war with America's Allies in lebanon thus creating unrest in the country for a pretty decent period of time also some American Boats in the region will probably move against our army as well as Israel that will try to destroy the LA because it will be considered a legitimate target. | | | | | Orange Room Supporter
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Originally Posted by mikeys71 Under funded??? you must be kidding me. This army is the only army in the world that keep paying salary and retirement even after their death they pay their kids. What this army needs is to be loyal to their country and not their religious or political leaders.
Take for example 3amid Shouquair who is he loyal to??? The state of Lebanon or Hassan Nesrallah who saved his job back in may. | u must be very well versed in the term "funding", since u so clearly seem to know that the price for only 1 high end plane or chopper can account for all those "high salary expenses" u are so worried about.
sure, buying serious equipment costs nothing and maintaining them is done by wishful thinking..
fuel, bullets, professional soldier training ..that can be done using one 486 computer with Counter Strike 1 installed on it..
on the other hand, paying the salaries and retirement funds costs as much as building a navy armada or two with a 3 dozen warships or so in their flotillas..
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Instead of fighting about what's wrong & what's right ALL YOU People should stand Beside our Great LEBANESE ARMY & give Them THE SUPPORT THEY NEED FOR BEING SUCH COURAGE MAN COZ THEY FOUGHT TERRORISM BACK IN THE PAST & STILL & WILL FOREVER DO WITH OR WITHOUT WEAPONS DONT U REMEMBER HARB LTEHRIR W HARB L2ELGHA W LATELY WHEN THEY FIGHT "Fateh l2eslam" IN NAHER L BARED THE MAN LEBANESE ARMY FOUGHT WITH THEIR OWN FLESH & BLOOD TO SAFE OUR LEBANON ISN"T THAT ENOUGH FOR U?????????????????????????
& if You All need some information why our Army is not armed with weapons coz there's a version in the Lebanese LAw Say that THE LEBANESE ARMY MUST NEVER BE ARMED WITH WEAPON OR PLANES or or .....ISSUED BY THE USA BACK THEN long ago | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to orange4ever13 For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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TILL THE LAST DROP OF THEIR BLOOD THE MAN OF LEBANESE ARMY WILL FIGHT FOR LEBANON but our government is very useless coz it never respected their THE LEBANESE ARMY MARTYRS & NEVER APRECIATED THEM & NEVER THANKED THEM FOR DIEING TO SAVE LEBANON from GREED PEOPLE like our government & USA & SYRIA & & &
w NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE"LL TALK OR WRITE ABOUT THE LEBANESE ARMY WE"LL NEVER GIVE THEM THEIR RIGHTS | | | | | Registered Member
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Branches Lebanese Ground Forces
The Lebanese Army is made up of:
5 Regional Commands
11 Mechanized brigades
2 Artillery regiments
1 Commando regiment
5 Special Forces regiments
1 Airborne regiment
1 Navy Commando regiment
Republican Guard brigade
Medical Services
Support brigade
Logistics brigade
Military police
Independent work regiment
Lebanese Ground Forces Equipment Standard Issue Infantry Weaponry M16, CAR-15, M4 Carbine, AKMS, AK-74, MP-5, G3 rifle, FN P90
Infantry Weapons M40 (rifle), SVD (rifle), RPG-7, M65 Rocketlauncher(Bazooka variant), M2 Browning machine gun, PK machine gun, FN MAG, M40 recoilless rifle, Shmel, various mortars
Main Battle Tank T-54/T-55, M48A1/A5, Leopard 1(A5/ 43 ex-Belgian with 2008 deliveries). 310
Armored Personnel Carriers M113A1/A2, M578 Recovery vehicle, Panhard M-3, VAB, Cadillac Gage Commando, Chaimite, AMX-VCI 1660+
Infantry Fighting vehicles AMX-13, Saladin, Ferret, AML-90, Staghound, AIFV (AIFV-B-C25 to be delivered) 760
Towed Artillery M101 howitzer (105 mm), M102 howitzer (105 mm), D-30 howitzer (122 mm), M-30 howitzer (122 mm), M-46 gun (130 mm), M114A1 howitzer (155 mm), M198 howitzer (155 mm), Obusier de 155 mm Modčle 50 , 2A36 152mm gun 147
Anti-Aircraft Weaponry M42 Duster, ZU-23 (23 mm), ZPU-4, Strela-2 (SA-7A/B GRAIL) 30+
Anti-Tank Guided Missiles ENTAC, MILAN, BGM-71 TOW, AT-3, AT-14, AT4, M141 Bunker Defeat Munition[2] 1170
Artillery Rocket Systems BM-21, BM-11, RM-70 76
Vehicles Land Rover Defender 90, M151 MUTT jeep, CUCV, HMMWV 'Humvee 285', AIL M325 Command Car, M35A3, DAF YA-4442 3600+
As of March 2008, The Netherlands has donated several of its military vehicles to the Lebanese Army.
Poland has also promised to send military aid to Lebanon with a promise to deliver by March 2008 $12 million in ammunition, including some for the LAF’s Soviet-built T-54/55 tanks, 130mm guns, 120mm mortars and multiple-rocket launchers, the military official said. Whether the shipment was delayed or arrived in Lebanon in March 2008 is unknown.
The last confirmed deal is a Belgian promise to sell 43 Leopard 1 tanks and 16 AIFV armored infantry fighting vehicles and 12 M-113 APC's to Beirut is expected to become reality soon, now that a government needed to endorse the deal has formed in Brussels. Lebanese Navy
The Lebanese Navy is responsible for protecting Lebanon's waters, protecting ports, and fighting illegal smuggling of goods.
The structure of the navy is centralised around the Navy Command, then it branches off into the quarter-general of the Navy, the Department of Naval Equipment Stores, the Naval School, Beirut Naval Base and the Jounieh Naval Base.
Lebanese Navy Ships Combat Support Boats British Made 27 9-meter CSB
Combat Support boat Lebanese build 1 +- 12 meter
Combat boats (ex UAE) 6 12-meter ,4 16-meter
Landing Crafts EDIC-class (French Made) 2 59-meter LCT Sour,damour
Patrol Boats TRACKER-Class, ATTACKER-Class 7 20-meter Sarafand,batroun,Trablous,Jbeil,jounieh,Beirut,Sai da
Fast Patrol Boats German Made 3 Ex-German 34-meter Amchit (ex-Bremen 2), Fassmer FFPB 20 20-meter Nakoura (ex-Bremen 9), 28-meter Tabarja (ex- Bergen) Lebanese Air Force
Main article: Lebanese Air Force
The Lebanese Air Force is the air force branch of the Lebanese Armed Forces. It currently has a large number of helicopters including the UH-1H Bell Huey, Gazelle, and various others. The air force is currently in the process of restoring its jet capabilities and considering the purchase of a small number of fighters or jet trainers. Lebanese Special Forces
The Lebanese Special Forces are the elite of the Lebanese army, those who enroll are subjected to rigorous training regimes and must be in peak physical and mental condition prior to their ascension to such a highly desired position. Each branch of the Armed Forces consist of their own form of Special Forces or Commandos. These include:
1 Navy Commando regiment
1 Commando regiment (Also known as the Maghaweer)
1 Airborne regiment
5 Special Forces regiments
To ensure the effectiveness of such an elite force, many Commandos are sent overseas to nations such as the US, UK and France to receive extra training in specialized areas that the Lebanese Armed Forces are unable to provide, due to a lack of resources. While training in Lebanon, each Commando is instructed in the art of urban and guerrilla warfare. So rigorous is their domestic training regime that each commando is subjected to a training timetable consisting of 20 hours per day for 3 months, which is divided into different stages. Each stage consists of a specialized form of warfare and its associated tactics. Such tactics include: sabotage, sniping, extraction and covert operations. Lebanese Maghaweer are also well known for snake eating at graduation ceremony | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to Stonecold For This Useful Post: | | | Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Stonecold Branches Lebanese Ground Forces
The Lebanese Army is made up of:
5 Regional Commands
11 Mechanized brigades
2 Artillery regiments
1 Commando regiment
5 Special Forces regiments
1 Airborne regiment
1 Navy Commando regiment
Republican Guard brigade
Medical Services
Support brigade
Logistics brigade
Military police
Independent work regiment
Lebanese Ground Forces Equipment Standard Issue Infantry Weaponry M16, CAR-15, M4 Carbine, AKMS, AK-74, MP-5, G3 rifle, FN P90
Infantry Weapons M40 (rifle), SVD (rifle), RPG-7, M65 Rocketlauncher(Bazooka variant), M2 Browning machine gun, PK machine gun, FN MAG, M40 recoilless rifle, Shmel, various mortars
Main Battle Tank T-54/T-55, M48A1/A5, Leopard 1(A5/ 43 ex-Belgian with 2008 deliveries). 310
Armored Personnel Carriers M113A1/A2, M578 Recovery vehicle, Panhard M-3, VAB, Cadillac Gage Commando, Chaimite, AMX-VCI 1660+
Infantry Fighting vehicles AMX-13, Saladin, Ferret, AML-90, Staghound, AIFV (AIFV-B-C25 to be delivered) 760
Towed Artillery M101 howitzer (105 mm), M102 howitzer (105 mm), D-30 howitzer (122 mm), M-30 howitzer (122 mm), M-46 gun (130 mm), M114A1 howitzer (155 mm), M198 howitzer (155 mm), Obusier de 155 mm Modčle 50 , 2A36 152mm gun 147
Anti-Aircraft Weaponry M42 Duster, ZU-23 (23 mm), ZPU-4, Strela-2 (SA-7A/B GRAIL) 30+
Anti-Tank Guided Missiles ENTAC, MILAN, BGM-71 TOW, AT-3, AT-14, AT4, M141 Bunker Defeat Munition[2] 1170
Artillery Rocket Systems BM-21, BM-11, RM-70 76
Vehicles Land Rover Defender 90, M151 MUTT jeep, CUCV, HMMWV 'Humvee 285', AIL M325 Command Car, M35A3, DAF YA-4442 3600+
As of March 2008, The Netherlands has donated several of its military vehicles to the Lebanese Army.
Poland has also promised to send military aid to Lebanon with a promise to deliver by March 2008 $12 million in ammunition, including some for the LAF’s Soviet-built T-54/55 tanks, 130mm guns, 120mm mortars and multiple-rocket launchers, the military official said. Whether the shipment was delayed or arrived in Lebanon in March 2008 is unknown.
The last confirmed deal is a Belgian promise to sell 43 Leopard 1 tanks and 16 AIFV armored infantry fighting vehicles and 12 M-113 APC's to Beirut is expected to become reality soon, now that a government needed to endorse the deal has formed in Brussels. Lebanese Navy
The Lebanese Navy is responsible for protecting Lebanon's waters, protecting ports, and fighting illegal smuggling of goods.
The structure of the navy is centralised around the Navy Command, then it branches off into the quarter-general of the Navy, the Department of Naval Equipment Stores, the Naval School, Beirut Naval Base and the Jounieh Naval Base.
Lebanese Navy Ships Combat Support Boats British Made 27 9-meter CSB
Combat Support boat Lebanese build 1 +- 12 meter
Combat boats (ex UAE) 6 12-meter ,4 16-meter
Landing Crafts EDIC-class (French Made) 2 59-meter LCT Sour,damour
Patrol Boats TRACKER-Class, ATTACKER-Class 7 20-meter Sarafand,batroun,Trablous,Jbeil,jounieh,Beirut,Sai da
Fast Patrol Boats German Made 3 Ex-German 34-meter Amchit (ex-Bremen 2), Fassmer FFPB 20 20-meter Nakoura (ex-Bremen 9), 28-meter Tabarja (ex- Bergen) Lebanese Air Force
Main article: Lebanese Air Force
The Lebanese Air Force is the air force branch of the Lebanese Armed Forces. It currently has a large number of helicopters including the UH-1H Bell Huey, Gazelle, and various others. The air force is currently in the process of restoring its jet capabilities and considering the purchase of a small number of fighters or jet trainers. Lebanese Special Forces
The Lebanese Special Forces are the elite of the Lebanese army, those who enroll are subjected to rigorous training regimes and must be in peak physical and mental condition prior to their ascension to such a highly desired position. Each branch of the Armed Forces consist of their own form of Special Forces or Commandos. These include:
1 Navy Commando regiment
1 Commando regiment (Also known as the Maghaweer)
1 Airborne regiment
5 Special Forces regiments
To ensure the effectiveness of such an elite force, many Commandos are sent overseas to nations such as the US, UK and France to receive extra training in specialized areas that the Lebanese Armed Forces are unable to provide, due to a lack of resources. While training in Lebanon, each Commando is instructed in the art of urban and guerrilla warfare. So rigorous is their domestic training regime that each commando is subjected to a training timetable consisting of 20 hours per day for 3 months, which is divided into different stages. Each stage consists of a specialized form of warfare and its associated tactics. Such tactics include: sabotage, sniping, extraction and covert operations. Lebanese Maghaweer are also well known for snake eating at graduation ceremony | How did you get this info? | | | | | Registered Member
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Mission The LAF’s national orientation is based on the following: -Facing the Israeli occupation and its perpetual aggression in South Lebanon and West Bekaa and supporting the steadfastness of Lebanese citizens to ensure the complete withdrawal of the Israeli forces to internationally recognized borders.
-Defending the country and its citizens against all aggression.
-Confronting all threats against the country’s vital interests.
-Coordinating with Arab armies in accordance with ratified treaties and agreements.
-Maintaining internal security and stability.
-Engaging in social and development activities according to national interests.
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